Why Pak army entered so late into the 1948 war of Kashmir?

[halupridol]

They are denying it, there is no mention of any role of pashtun tribesmen (or sudhans etc) on official website of Pakistan army, the page there on 1948 war is filled with performance of pak army only. They even awarded highest medal, nishan e haider, to a pak army soldier .

untill u have adequate/comparable representation in federal govt. this will continue to happen..u ppl shud try to change that

 

[KingMamba]

Don't be the typical passively aggressive Indian. I bet you're from UP or Bihar. And "paindoos" could not fight as good as Pashtuns or Gurkhas? Google Gakkhars. The first guerilla war in South Asia was fought by the peindoo Gakkhars against Sher Shah Suri, whose son was raping the women of weak Indians in Delhi. And not to mention that they won the war too along with inflicting heavy casualties on Sher Shah's army. All these Gurkha-Phurkas are recent mercenary races largely protected by their geography rather than some sort of extreme martialiness lol.

Oh and did I mention that Gakkhar cavalry was rated to be the best in all "upper India"? And Gakkhars are just one of the peindoo clans. I will mention Gheba, Janjua and Mair Minhas of Chakwal some other day. But I feel your pain. It must suck to belong to a weak race. This is what a racist anti-Indian gang in New Jersey once wrote:

"I'm writing about your article during July about the abuse of Indian People. Well I'm here to state the other side. I hate them, if you had to live near them you would also. We are an organization called the Dotbusters. We have been around for 2 years. We will go to any extreme to get Indians to move out of Jersey City. If I'm walking down the street and I see a Hindu and the setting is right, I will hit him or her. We plan some of our most extreme attacks such as breaking windows, breaking car windows, and crashing family parties. We use the phone books and look up the name Patel. Have you seen how many of them there are? Do you even live in Jersey City? Do you walk down Central avenue and experience what its like to be near them: we have and we just don't want it anymore. You said that they will have to start protecting themselves because the police cannot always be there. They will never do anything. They are a week [sic] race physically and mentally. We are going to continue our way. We will never be stopped."

Not to mention the colonial writers such as James Mills describing "the hindhus of India" as a weak, cowardly race. We paindoos have been called anything, but a coward. Lol.

He is North East Indian so technically not really a part of the Indian race.

 

[halupridol]

Don't be the typical passively aggressive Indian. I bet you're from UP or Bihar. .

did i hit a nerve,,,,sorry
no, i am not from UP or Bihar ,,,,lost ur bet
rest of ur post is retaliatory gibberish,,,not interested
also where i come from,,,,we dont take pride in calling ourselves martial...
peace

 

[Samandri]

Indo-Pakistani War of 1947 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The wikipedia article, which seems to be from indian sources, is saying that tribals are fighting with indian army at almost all fronts of kashmir in the first half of war. (If one goes to deep details, tribals were also assissting gilgat scouts in seige of skardu, they were sent by nawab of Dir along with chitral scouts.) While pakistani sources are either silent or they limit tribal role to looting at baramulla.
All the info and details on 1948 war on internet is coming from indian side, pakistani side is mostly lamenting over failure of tribesment to capture srinagar air port.

 

[halupridol]

He is North East Indian so technically not really a part of the Indian race.

now we r a part of Indian race

 

[KingMamba]

now we r a part of Indian race

Union not race.

 

[halupridol]

Union not race.

wohi bhai,,,,waisey bhi indian race kya hae,,sab moh maya

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

Pashtun warriors entered into Kashmir on october 1947. Indian army entered into kashmir to deal with tribesmen on november 1947 while pak army entered into the war after five months, in May 1948.
1- Why few thousands ill-equipped tribesmen were forwarded to face Indian army with tanks and air force for whole five months?. What were the activities of pak army in this interval?.
2- On official website of Pak army, on page about 1948 war of kashmir, there is not a even single mention of pashtun tribals. What does it mean?. They want to tell us that tribals acted independently and pak army had nothing to do with them? Or that "fodders" are not worthy of mention and credit?.
Kashmir War 1947 - 49

Edit: Was general gracey the reason of that long delay? Why general gracey was not fired for insobordination?

Pakistan doesnt have proper army no amo factory or vehicle to deal with that issue where india had trained army from ww2 to deal with any circumstances. Pakistan had to involve tribesmen and razakar which Pakistan gov recognize openly.
Pakistan is built from scratch it wasnt easy to maintain what we have been doing with so many conflicts and problems.

 

[INDIC]

He is North East Indian so technically not really a part of the Indian race.

Bhanje, what you know about North-East.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

He is North East Indian so technically not really a part of the Indian race.

There is an Indian race now?

 

[ghoul]

He is North East Indian so technically not really a part of the Indian race.

You mean the people who get called "chinkay" by Indians and get beaten up in Delhi? Lol.

 

[general_yermolov_stalin]

wohi bhai,,,,waisey bhi indian race kya hae,,sab moh maya

Assam or Sikkim? or meghalaya?

 

[halupridol]

Assam or Sikkim? or meghalaya?

does it matter,,,,i am Indian

 

[general_yermolov_stalin]

does it matter,,,,i am Indian

Seriously, I have respect for sikhs,ahoms,bodos,north easterners and marathis .The rest ,not so much. Atleast you guys stand for what you believe in.

 

[Samandri]

It is lame excuse that Pakistan didnt have an army till mid fifties. In 1948 brigadier ayub khan, who later became dictator, was given command to hunt down faqir of ipi and his men, as they had declared pashtunistan. In that operation against waziri tribesmen , air force was used extensively to deal with insurgents. Next year, pak army conducted operation against afridi tribesmen, and bombs were dropped on Afridi jirga which gathered to discuss pashtunistan. Pakistani planes also bombed some afghan villages as punishment. So there was fully functioning army with air force.