why NW India is still hindu Majority after 800(AM) years of muslim rule ?

[faithfulguy]

yep just like mongols, Quinn, Manchu, etc etc

kushans and turks too

When I mean India, I mean it as a geographical expression. Not India as a country. Only China and Pakistan ever beat the nation of India in a war. Britain never beat India in any war. They created India.

 

[Anuj Tagra]

when did pakistan beat india in a war? do we have to suffer your neanderthal Pakistan studies curriculum again and again?

 

[Manidabest]

Thanks for the tag.

It's simple- we had a strong social structure. Muslim rulers were able to wipe out Buddhism from Afghanistan and other parts of subcontinent, but not Hinduism. Why???
Hinduism is a way of life!!!
Those who were converted forcefully, within the subcontinent, were living a Hindu life despite following a different religion. I do not mean to offend anyone but is it not amazing that even an aethist can be a Hindu(Brahman) by virtue of his knowledge??
Which other religion allows such Liberty???
This is the reason why hindudism is one of the oldest surviving religions in the world.
But like everything, Hinduism has its pros and cons.

pls tell me the name of one single muslim ruler who wiped out budhism from Afghanistan and other parts of south asia....???? & i think opss the world knows the fact that it was hinduism which replaced budhism violently in south asia( you better read your own prime minister nehru's book for reference)...
and if we stop being biased then one must read history with an open mind and then one can come to the conclusion that muslims never forced anyone to convert to islam in south asia & they respected the majority religion e.g mughal king babur on his death bed asked his son Humayun to ban the slaughter of cows as it was sacred to the majority people of India ... there are soo many things are stereotype e.g Aurangzeb Alamgir was extremist nope that is not rite he had more non muslim courtiers & advisor than any of the muslim ruler in India ... we can see RSS given liberty to sort out other religions in India .. Ghar Wapsi ...

 

[Levina]

then one can come to the conclusion that muslims never forced anyone to convert to islam in south asia

I am sure the version of history that you've read is very biased.
Religious Policies and Foreign Policies of Tippu Sultan: The Great South Indian Ruler | Sankaranarayanan Paleeri - Academia.edu

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Not interested in continuing religious discussion.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Because Muslims didn't come and slaughter everyone of a different faith like the Europeans did at the Americas. Like it or not, that is why it is.

And that is why after the 1947 separation, the Muslim nations are parts of where the Mughals had the least influence.

not only that, we Muslims when we were ruling our south Asian Empire for about 1000 years, were never in majority. In the times of Mughal Empire and Emperor Akbar, we were only 15% of total population and just after Emperor Akbar's time till Emperor Aurangzeb Alamgir's time we were contributing 23% of World economy, thats how strong and vibrant our System was.

Before that in Lodhi Dynasty times we were just 2-3 to 5%. in numbers.

 

[Manidabest]

I am sure the version of history that you've read is very biased.
Religious Policies and Foreign Policies of Tippu Sultan: The Great South Indian Ruler | Sankaranarayanan Paleeri - Academia.edu

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Not interested in continuing religious discussion.

One must not forget most of his accounts were british driven which was & is heavily biased against tipu sultan due to its opposition of british occupation

 

[Anuj Tagra]

not only that, we Muslims when we were ruling our south Asian Empire for about 1000 years, were never in majority. In the times of Mughal Empire and Emperor Akbar, we were only 15% of total population and just after Emperor Akbar's time till Emperor Aurangzeb Alamgir's time we were contributing 23% of World economy, thats how strong and vibrant our System was.

Before that in Lodhi Dynasty times we were just 2-3 to 5%. in numbers.

why do you keep saying you?

Reminds me of that dude from Khuda ke liye who gets battered in an american jail.

When did Muslims do anything for GDP? they only ate food and fought amongst themselves,most of the intellectual and working class were always hindus which includes agriculture/trading.

Only in punjab there is a decent jatt farmer muslims,everywhere else muslims know only 2 things,Kasai/Mercenary/chota mota dukhaan.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

why do you keep saying you?

Reminds me of that dude from Khuda ke liye who gets battered in an american jail.

When did Muslims do anything for GDP? they only ate food and fought amongst themselves,most of the intellectual and working class were always hindus which includes agriculture/trading.

Only in punjab there is a decent jatt farmer muslims,everywhere else muslims know only 2 things,Kasai/Mercenary/chota mota dukhaan.

none of yr business.

 

[Anuj Tagra]

One must not forget most of his accounts were british driven which was & is heavily biased against tipu sultan due to its opposition of british occupation

Local accounts of Tipu Sultan are much worse than the english accounts.

pls tell me the name of one single muslim ruler who wiped out budhism from Afghanistan and other parts of south asia....???? & i think opss the world knows the fact that it was hinduism which replaced budhism violently in south asia( you better read your own prime minister nehru's book for reference)...
and if we stop being biased then one must read history with an open mind and then one can come to the conclusion that muslims never forced anyone to convert to islam in south asia & they respected the majority religion e.g mughal king babur on his death bed asked his son Humayun to ban the slaughter of cows as it was sacred to the majority people of India ... there are soo many things are stereotype e.g Aurangzeb Alamgir was extremist nope that is not rite he had more non muslim courtiers & advisor than any of the muslim ruler in India ... we can see RSS given liberty to sort out other religions in India .. Ghar Wapsi ...

Bakhtyar Khilji demolished the Nalanda University to Dust.

 

[Manidabest]

Local accounts of Tipu Sultan are much worse than the english accounts.



Bakhtyar Khilji demolished the Nalanda University to Dust.

Bakhtyar Khilji doesnt represent whole muslims of south asia and he didnt represent islam at all ... he a conquer of turkish origin was expanding his empire and he did what was norm at that time....
can you deny that hinduism replaced budhism by force??? ( this fact is narrated by your own Prime Minister Nehru in his book)

 

[Anuj Tagra]

Did Nehru have a time machine,he is the guy who ll jump into the well if a white guy told him to?

There was no crusade between hinduism and buddhism,Buddhism is an extreme religion like Islam and the opposite of Islam,like crazy diet/abstinence etc etc.

Nonetheless,Buddhism died its natural death and most of it came after the arab conquest of sindh by Bin Qasim.

They were also amongst the most serious idol worshippers compared to hindus,Hindus have Havan/Mantra/Tantra/Agni,so many things apart from Idols,Buddhism was fundamentally an idol worshipping thing and many Butshikan Islamic emperors did massacre buddhists.

 

[Aham Brahmasmi]

not only that, we Muslims when we were ruling our south Asian Empire for about 1000 years, were never in majority. In the times of Mughal Empire and Emperor Akbar, we were only 15% of total population and just after Emperor Akbar's time till Emperor Aurangzeb Alamgir's time we were contributing 23% of World economy, thats how strong and vibrant our System was.

Before that in Lodhi Dynasty times we were just 2-3 to 5%. in numbers.

you never ruled south Asian Muslim empire you were slave of foreigner Muslim elits just like us.

 

[PWFI]

Because our faith is stronger than your swords. #YOLO

 

[vayuputhra]

An interesting question.

Proximity played a major role. The regions in the NW of the map were close to Muslim predominant regions of Afghanistan & Iran hence the majority. Once the Mughal rule faded away in late 1700's the reassertion of locals who had till them been suppressed & resented Muslim rule began. Actions by Marathas in 1800's punctured the balloon of invincibility of the Muslims to locals leading to greater re assertion of the religion of the land.

Muslims who had shifted inland from the west and those who had converted remained in the land they occupied , they are shown in the lighter shades of green. Hindus / Sikhs began to gain predominance once again.

By 1900 when this map was made the British had taken control completely , they relied on Princely states to exercise control over large areas & directly governed the rest. In both cases forceful conversion did not take place anymore.

This was a period when communication &infrastructure was not well developed hence migration of people for commercial reasons had not begun. The original demographic pattern by & large remained.

Next, it is worth remembering that Mughals even at their height of power relied upon local Hindu kings who secured their kingdoms through allegiance to the seat of Agra / Delhi. In so doing they retained their personal Hindu identity & protected the religion of those whom they ruled..

In the Punjab , the beginning of 1800 saw huge Sikh resurgence . The boot soon shifted to the other foot and remained that way for the next 50 years or so. Muslims never got to rule that region again.

These and more facts could help in answering the question posed in the title.




Was this necessary ? How is it connected to the topic ?

Its not like that Muslims are all one happy family. Shia & Sunnis have never got along. The Ahmediyas, Bohras & so many other sub sects are struggling to be even accepted as Muslims .

We all have issues so lets not interject for the sake of posting something .

 

[Pakistani E]

My maternal family were Kashmiri Brahmins who converted to Islam not long ago due to Sufi saints on their own choice and were given the title of "Khawaja".
Ironically they had to leave Kashmir because of the "benevolent" Hindu Dogra rulers practising "peaceful" hinduism.

While paternally, the Awans were converted by another Sufi saint called Syed Abdullah Qutb Shah Awm ibn Ya‘lā, al-Jilani. Hence the title Qutb Shahi Awans.

I researched both side of my family and found them both to be converted to Islam by Sufi saints. Maybe, contrary to the myth of force conversions, the majority of muslims in the sub continent were converted through Sufism? (Gasp)

So it would explain why the NW is still majority Hindu..