Why no "MUHAJIR" has any problem living in Punjab ? Punjabies dont complain either

[Patriots]

Urdu speakers are also second largest community in Lahore, do we need to worry about it?

Its up to you but we don't worry about it .....

 

[karakoram]

Although I am against the word of Muhajir for myself ... But I like to correct you here ... Whoever migrates towards another land is called Muhajir ... Our forefathers had migrated to Pakistan ... So they were Muhajir but I am not Muhajir because I born & raised here ... I will always remain Pakistani ... But after several years native people had not accepted to us as Pakistani that's why MQM had been made against this discrimination and chose the word "Muhajir" for themselves .............




However Punjabis are in second largest community in Karachi .........

then again i will say i am pathan but i have many Mahajir friend i dont even call them or treat them as mahajirs because this is our pakistan and not mine or yours. we should leave this mahajar pathan or sindhi slogans and live like a Qoum. dont insult your self calling your self a mahajur you are a proud pakistani thats it.

 

[Patriots]

then again i will say i am pathan but i have many Mahajir friend i dont even call them or treat them as mahajirs because this is our pakistan and not mine or yours. we should leave this mahajar pathan or sindhi slogans and live like a Qoum. dont insult your self calling your self a mahajur you are a proud pakistani thats it.

I already said that I am against this term ... And you would have known that several Pashtuns are working in Karachi as guard ... My office guard is also Pathan and my office is located in MQM dominated area ... But not only my guard but all other guards who are Pathans are feeling pleasent over there and I saw MQM hardcore workers more cooperative with them ...........

If you will find my post you will see to me to priding my Pakistani identity than other else .............

 

[Armstrong]

I already said that I am against this term ... And you would have known that several Pashtuns are working in Karachi as guard ... My office guard is also Pathan and my office is located in MQM dominated area ... But not only my guard but all other guards who are Pathans are feeling pleasent over there and I saw MQM hardcore workers more cooperative with them ...........

If you will find my post you will see to me to priding my Pakistani identity than other else .............

So which part of British India did your ancestors immigrate from ?

 

[Patriots]

So which part of British India did your ancestors immigrate from ?

UP (District Muradabad)

 

[Armstrong]

UP (District Muradabad)

Does that mean that you won't treat me with home cooked Hyderabadi Biryani if I visit Karachi 'cause your family isn't from Hyderabad ?

 

[Patriots]

Does that mean that you won't treat me with home cooked Hyderabadi Biryani if I visit Karachi 'cause your family isn't from Hyderabad ?

Now Karachi has its own biryani test ... I can offer you BBQ biryani

 

[waleed3601]

my grandparents were from deoband, uttar pradesh but my great great grandfather was actually a kashmiri. he even received a victoria cross from queen elizabeth and wrote his own book. :p and i agree with the guy who said that mohajir is not a term that i agree with but due to the constant harassment of hindustanis during 60s 70s this ethnicity had to be formed.

 

[karakoram]

I already said that I am against this term ... And you would have known that several Pashtuns are working in Karachi as guard ... My office guard is also Pathan and my office is located in MQM dominated area ... But not only my guard but all other guards who are Pathans are feeling pleasent over there and I saw MQM hardcore workers more cooperative with them ...........

If you will find my post you will see to me to priding my Pakistani identity than other else .............

there are some black sheeps in every community who spread hatred against other community and that must be stoped. from my prospective i am pakistani then i am pathan and same apply to every community sab say pehle Pakistan .

 

[Patriots]

there are some black sheeps in every community who spread hatred against other community and that must be stoped. from my prospective i am pakistani then i am pathan and same apply to every community sab say pehle Pakistan .

I borrowed the slogan from Musharraf "Sab se pehlay Pakistan"

 

[Danish saleem]

i am from Mohajir family, my grandfather was from dehli, grandmother was from aagra, both of them migrated to district Chinut, Punjab.

Problem is, Zia ul Haq created these hatred in sindh, because of PPP problem in 80 Era in Sindh, and till today our establishment always uses MQM against PPP. like vice vera Zia ul Haq created Nawaz sharif in punjab to tackle PPP in punjab, and they saw Nawaz sharif was not in their control they created PML Q, and when PML Q not delivered desired results, they are backing PTI in Punjab, to fullfill Political gap already created in Punjab.

Danish

 

[Samandri]

I grow up when there was operation against MQM gangs in Karachi by Benazir government. I remember many from Karachi moved to our area and they were welcomed. They told stories about kidnapping , bhatta , black mailing many of them sold houses to lower price and moved to Islamabad Lahore area. Same stories as we hear today but that time media wasn't same. I had many class fellows from Karachi and they told me same thing. Now i live in Norway and have few urdu speaking so called Muahjir friends and they tell same stories. Stories are same how MQM gangs operate and also how Phatans are involved in crimes as drugs weapons etc. Some of urdu speaking told me they picked guns when phastons started to make gangs etc.

But what my point is there are ppl from all over Pakistan who move to Punjab but no one complain in Punjab. Most ppl from Karachi are educated and respected. Phatan are involved in smuggling and few other crimes but many other work hard and live honset life. I meet many from Gilgit in my school they were very good in football. U will almost never hear any punjbai complaining about they are coming and taking our jobs like Phatans has taken over most shops spesialy clothes and transport biz only complain i have against them that they smuggle alot of stuff from India China etc.

smuggling is not considered crime among pashtuns neither killing some one in revenge is a big deal for him. Smuggling is avoiding duty on goods, the damage goes to governament...Historically pakhtuns never paid taxes/duties to mughals and british, not even to kabul so its kind of embedded in our genes that we would try to smuggle. Smuggling is not crime in islam, bribing is. So you should be more worried about pathans paying bribe and bhata to punjab police.

 

[Samandri]

I already said that I am against this term ... And you would have known that several Pashtuns are working in Karachi as guard ... My office guard is also Pathan and my office is located in MQM dominated area ... But not only my guard but all other guards who are Pathans are feeling pleasent over there and I saw MQM hardcore workers more cooperative with them ...........

If you will find my post you will see to me to priding my Pakistani identity than other else .............

Pashtuns do their duty efficiently without complaining but it doesnt mean they may not be target of racism and hate. There was an urduspeaker member here, haviz sultan from karachi with pathan roots from U.P. He told us that their driver is a honest and well-mannered pashtun from swabi but his family members are some times very insensitive , rude and racist to him for small reasons, they were calling him kamaqal akhroat and low IQ pathan. Ironically that family themeselves were descendents of pathan conquerers of UP.

 

[Samandri]

I doubt that there is large bihari component of mohajirs settled in punjab thats why so much calm there. Biharis mostly came to pakistan after fall of dhaka and within year they were prominant in violence against sindhis in the langauge riots. Moreover all the mohajir-pathan riots were actually bihari-pathan riots.

 

[Shahmir]

I doubt that there is large bihari component of mohajirs settled in punjab thats why so much calm there. Biharis mostly came to pakistan after fall of dhaka and within year they were prominant in violence against sindhis in the langauge riots. Moreover all the mohajir-pathan riots were actually bihari-pathan riots.

The only urdu speaking mohajirs that I have come across in my city gujranwala are siddiqi who according to some sources on internet are muslim converts from hindu kayashta caste of UP with some middle eastern muslim admixture, another family I know are sheikh probably also from UP, these are the mohajir families that I personally know. They are well versed in punjabi language so if they don't tell you that they are hindustanis (the term used for them in our area) you will probably think that they are regular punjabis. We also have Meo rajputs in our neighborhood but they speak their rajasthani dialect in their home though they are equally good in punjabi and urdu too, they are migrants from Mewat area of haryana/rajashtan and they are culturally quite crude and more or less culturally similar to agricultural families of punjab because of which they often live even in the villages of punjab.