Why Kerala has no beef with beef.

[Levina]

@Bitter Melon
where's your post gone?

 

[wolfschanzze]

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@Bitter Melon

 

[Levina]

http://sociology101.net/readings/Indias-sacred-cow.pdf
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@Bitter Melon

Thanks but the article says something which you had denied....
"The earliest Vedas, the Hindu sacred texts from the Second Millennium B.C., do not prohibit the slaughter of cattle. Instead, they ordain it as a part of sacrificial rites. The early Hindus did not avoid the flesh of cows and bulls; they ate it at ceremonial feasts presided over by Brahman priests. "

Now don't confuse me.

Thanks @Bitter Melon I'm reading that article now.

 

[Bitter Melon]

Thanks but the article says something which you had denied....
"The earliest Vedas, the Hindu sacred texts from the Second Millennium B.C., do not prohibit the slaughter of cattle. Instead, they ordain it as a part of sacrificial rites. The early Hindus did not avoid the flesh of cows and bulls; they ate it at ceremonial feasts presided over by Brahman priests. "

Now don't confuse me.

Thanks @Bitter Melon I'm reading that article now.

Now understand this the researcher is a Westerner. His input as to Hindu texts and its association would necessarily be taken by the existing discourse in the country which is molded by Marxists, JNU type wallah. So obviously he is going to cite them. Anyway the research paper was not about Hindu history but about the economics of the cow, so I dare say his focus is on that rather than history.

@Bitter Melon
where's your post gone?

Which one? I was trying to make it more readable

 

[haviZsultan]

1)Sorry if your parents were born there, but it is not your country anymore, you made that decision and migrated.
The migrants were given a choice to migrate to Islamic Pakistan or stay in a Hindu Dominated Bharat.They chose the latter.
No there wont be any rebellions and you dreaming of such things is living in a fools paradise.Your relatives made their Decision to stay back,still they are free to move to Pakistan if they wish,we are not stopping them.You are a Pakistani.Period.

Well I never even said I consider myself less than Pakistani. But I am a Lucknowi too. Thats my choice. And to be truthful my family didn't move in 1947 the year of partition. My father and grandfather from fathers side later and my mother much later-she lived in Lucknow most of her early life.

2)Whatever they miss or do not miss is for them to decide, not you.Thanks, but i don't miss Beef,it is prohibited by our religion and our Constitution supports banning of cow slaughter.Even the Muslim chamber of Commerce also support the Pan India Ban.There is not much you can do about it.Even after supposed injustices on Muslims, still they are not in a rush to migrate to 'Golden Pakistan',they think it is better here than Pakistan.

Well after 60 years of partition you have convinced some that India is their home. Congratulations. I know of such Muslims but they aren't all the muslims that exist. My nana as I have said before married almost every daughter to those who had migrated to Pakistan. There are many others like him.

3)Going after Right wing extremists?You raised them yourself to be used as a state policy to destabilize nations around you.The chickens have come home to roost and are giving you a taste of your own medicine."You reap,what you Sow". You may realize the Secular model after you finished off all the minorities in Pakistan.That is a Oxymoron.When there are no minorities left in Pakistan,what is the use of Secularism for?

That is debatable. But its going off topic now.

Hindutva has not beheaded,bombed or killed anyone for little transgressions like your country has.You can't compare your Terrorist organizations with our Nationalist Social organizations.Apples and Oranges here.

Err... didn't an RSS man kill gandhi. Who was responsible for Malegaon, Samjhauta and many other attacks. Just because the Indian media does not discuss them does not mean they do not exist. I was in Lucknow when samjhauta occured. They blamed Pakistan and later Hindutva's were found responsible.

4)Who is using the Secular name?It is called Bharat not "Secular".Whatever or whoever killed whom is a different topic to ponder later.

This topic has been given enough attention I believe. Only you can fix the way you think. I knew long ago most Hindus in India do not have a secular mindset.

5)If your uncle suffered so much,why didn't he leave as your parents did? If you are so worried about Muslims here, why not give them asylum in Pakistan gladly?We are not stopping them.

I already believe in giving them asylum here. Like my parents settled in Pak. It was kind of like getting asylum.

6)That is called "What's good for the goose is good for the gander".You adjust with the majority and live with them.
Just like Minorities in other nations live by adjusting with Majority.Nobody will die if they don't eat Beef.
Yes beef. That was the topic.

while finishing off Minorities in your state and shed crocodile tears for Muslims in Bharat, is quite Admirable

Minorities in the sub continent have always been at the receiving end in the south asian region. Hatred keeps old wounds alive and if people have forgotten partition they haven't forgotten gujarat or mumbai. If the situation of Hindus in Pakistan is not safe then neither is it in of Muslims in India.

 

[Bornubus]

1)Sorry if your parents were born there, but it is not your country anymore, you made that decision and migrated.
The migrants were given a choice to migrate to Islamic Pakistan or stay in a Hindu Dominated Bharat.They chose the latter.
No there wont be any rebellions and you dreaming of such things is living in a fools paradise.Your relatives made their Decision to stay back,still they are free to move to Pakistan if they wish,we are not stopping them.You are a Pakistani.Period.


2)Whatever they miss or do not miss is for them to decide, not you.Thanks, but i don't miss Beef,it is prohibited by our religion and our Constitution supports banning of cow slaughter.Even the Muslim chamber of Commerce also support the Pan India Ban.There is not much you can do about it.Even after supposed injustices on Muslims, still they are not in a rush to migrate to 'Golden Pakistan',they think it is better here than Pakistan.


3)Going after Right wing extremists?You raised them yourself to be used as a state policy to destabilize nations around you.The chickens have come home to roost and are giving you a taste of your own medicine."You reap,what you Sow". You may realize the Secular model after you finished off all the minorities in Pakistan.That is a Oxymoron.When there are no minorities left in Pakistan,what is the use of Secularism for?
Hindutva has not beheaded,bombed or killed anyone for little transgressions like your country has.You can't compare your Terrorist organizations with our Nationalist Social organizations.Apples and Oranges here.

4)Who is using the Secular name?It is called Bharat not "Secular".Whatever or whoever killed whom is a different topic to ponder later.

5)If your uncle suffered so much,why didn't he leave as your parents did? If you are so worried about Muslims here, why not give them asylum in Pakistan gladly?We are not stopping them.

6)That is called "What's good for the goose is good for the gander".You adjust with the majority and live with them.
Just like Minorities in other nations live by adjusting with Majority.Nobody will die if they don't eat Beef.
while finishing off Minorities in your state and shed crocodile tears for Muslims in Bharat, is quite Admirable


ohooo, Levinaji,check out that thread i posted a lot,its cumbersome to go through 68 pages to know where i posted.
Besides there were others too who posted evidences.

Buddy i know muslims of Lucknow ....especially a Lucknow shiya is my friend....and you don't believe he hates Pakistan (state) more than some Indians....you can see some Shia leaders reaction after recent attacks on them.....and i found laughable when a senior pakistani member consider himself luckhnawi

 

[wolfschanzze]

Well I never even said I consider myself less than Pakistani. But I am a Lucknowi too. Thats my choice. And to be truthful my family didn't move in 1947 the year of partition. My father and grandfather from fathers side later and my mother much later-she lived in Lucknow most of her early life.



Well after 60 years of partition you have convinced some that India is their home. Congratulations. I know of such Muslims but they aren't all the muslims that exist. My nana as I have said before married almost every daughter to those who had migrated to Pakistan. There are many others like him.


That is debatable. But its going off topic now.



Err... didn't an RSS man kill gandhi. Who was responsible for Malegaon, Samjhauta and many other attacks. Just because the Indian media does not discuss them does not mean they do not exist. I was in Lucknow when samjhauta occured. They blamed Pakistan and later Hindutva's were found responsible.



This topic has been given enough attention I believe. Only you can fix the way you think. I knew long ago most Hindus in India do not have a secular mindset.



I already believe in giving them asylum here. Like my parents settled in Pak. It was kind of like getting asylum.

6)That is called "What's good for the goose is good for the gander".You adjust with the majority and live with them.
Just like Minorities in other nations live by adjusting with Majority.Nobody will die if they don't eat Beef.

Yes beef. That was the topic.



Minorities in the sub continent have always been at the receiving end in the south asian region. Hatred keeps old wounds alive and if people have forgotten partition they haven't forgotten gujarat or mumbai. If the situation of Hindus in Pakistan is not safe then neither is it in of Muslims in India.

1)Good for you if you consider yourself Lucknowi,We are not giving dual citizenships to Pakistanis.

2)Even before 60 years happened, they were convinced Bharat was a better place than Pakistan,so they stayed back.We still don't stop anyone from migrating,it's their wish.

3)Nathuram Godse was from Hindu Mahasabha.Even CIA claims samjautha blasts were done by LET.not hindutvawadis.There is no case against them.Peddle your ISI propaganda about my country somewhere else where they believe in fairytales.

4)Secularism stands because of Hindus,It runs because of Hindus.We don't to state we are secular every time.It is automatically understood what we stand for.Otherwise the fate of minorities in Bharat would have been the same as fate of Minorities in Pakistan.

5)Beef eating and cow slaughter is prohibited in our religion.There is no requirement for Beef eating in Muslims or Christians as per their religion,they can look for other sources of animal protein.End of story.

6)Last time i checked it was Hindus and Sikhs of Pakistan who were coming to seek Asylum in India.Not Indian muslims seeking asylum in Pakistan.Someone doesn't know the facts on the ground i guess.

Buddy i know muslims of Lucknow ....especially a Lucknow shiya is my friend....and you don't believe he hates Pakistan (state) more than some Indians....you can see some Shia leaders reaction after recent attacks on them.....and i found laughable when a senior pakistani member consider himself luckhnawi

LOL, it is quite funny a Pakistani sitting in Pakistan is acting like a Lucknawi and is shedding crocodile tears for them.

Thanks but the article says something which you had denied....
"The earliest Vedas, the Hindu sacred texts from the Second Millennium B.C., do not prohibit the slaughter of cattle. Instead, they ordain it as a part of sacrificial rites. The early Hindus did not avoid the flesh of cows and bulls; they ate it at ceremonial feasts presided over by Brahman priests. "

Now don't confuse me.

Thanks @Bitter Melon I'm reading that article now.

Madamji, read well.The vedas don't prescribe beef eating.What you were fed all these years was Marxists and Western Indologists translations,who created Aryan races and many such things out of thin air.
No beef in Vedas

Watch the entire video it clearly says no Beef eating for Hindus in Vedas.

 

[Georgeclark]

Well I never even said I consider myself less than Pakistani. But I am a Lucknowi too. Thats my choice. And to be truthful my family didn't move in 1947 the year of partition. My father and grandfather from fathers side later and my mother much later-she lived in Lucknow most of her early life.



Well after 60 years of partition you have convinced some that India is their home. Congratulations. I know of such Muslims but they aren't all the muslims that exist. My nana as I have said before married almost every daughter to those who had migrated to Pakistan. There are many others like him.


That is debatable. But its going off topic now.



Err... didn't an RSS man kill gandhi. Who was responsible for Malegaon, Samjhauta and many other attacks. Just because the Indian media does not discuss them does not mean they do not exist. I was in Lucknow when samjhauta occured. They blamed Pakistan and later Hindutva's were found responsible.



This topic has been given enough attention I believe. Only you can fix the way you think. I knew long ago most Hindus in India do not have a secular mindset.



I already believe in giving them asylum here. Like my parents settled in Pak. It was kind of like getting asylum.

6)That is called "What's good for the goose is good for the gander".You adjust with the majority and live with them.
Just like Minorities in other nations live by adjusting with Majority.Nobody will die if they don't eat Beef.

Yes beef. That was the topic.



Minorities in the sub continent have always been at the receiving end in the south asian region. Hatred keeps old wounds alive and if people have forgotten partition they haven't forgotten gujarat or mumbai. If the situation of Hindus in Pakistan is not safe then neither is it in of Muslims in India.

I can certainly assure you Muslims are much more Happy in India than Pakistan. Most are parents who feel there kids future is safe and very good in a place like India. No offense you cannot disagree India is better than Pakistan to live in. You can take my word do not consider it bias or something.

Plus, I have lived in 2 cities of India Hyderabad and Delhi which have a good amount of muslim population, sincerely we do not even find who is muslim and who is hindu all are equal, everyone is so busy with there lives they do not even care about such things. Everyone is happy in what they have and where they are half of them don't even remember they were ever given a choice to go to Pakistan. Hindus enjoy Muslim culture and respect it and Muslim enjoy Hindu culture and respect it at every place. Both go to same school, same hospital and both are governed by same government. You go to old cities of both cities no difference everyone enjoys there, moreover no one forces any Muslim girl to wear a burqa or not to wear its there choice who wants to can who doesn't live free.

Plus, attacks happen, they happen everywhere India is not some angel country there are bad people everywhere so they do happen you cannot consider it a bad place for some attack, this way Pakistan has blasts everyday, people fight among muslims, Should we consider it a bad place for them to live for them ?? No right, same way in India who live here are regarded as Indians not Indian muslims or Indian Hindus. (Though I do not like to give terrorist any religion as they are not even humans but as you considered some Hindu groups as terrorist, I too didn't back away from stating some muslim groups as terrorists)

ABDUL KALAM AZAD one of the biggest examples of a well known Indian, I can count infinite numbers but lets just leave it here. Every kid prospers in India whether he/she is Hindu or muslim or any other religion or sciety

Madamji, read well.The vedas don't prescribe beef eating.What you were fed all these years was Marxists and Western Indologists translations,who created Aryan races and many such things out of thin air.
No beef in Vedas

Watch the entire video it clearly says no Beef eating for Hindus in Vedas.

Bro, No offense I eat beef in India a lots of time. But, I do take care that the person sitting with me likes it or not. But if he/she does or even does not, no one stops me to eat it But sometime out of respect I do not, but it surely is tasty :p

 

[Bitter Melon]

I can certainly assure you Muslims are much more Happy in India than Pakistan. Most are parents who feel there kids future is safe and very good in a place like India. No offense you cannot disagree India is better than Pakistan to live in. You can take my word do not consider it bias or something.

Plus, I have lived in 2 cities of India Hyderabad and Delhi which have a good amount of muslim population, sincerely we do not even find who is muslim and who is hindu all are equal, everyone is so busy with there lives they do not even care about such things. Everyone is happy in what they have and where they are half of them don't even remember they were ever given a choice to go to Pakistan. Hindus enjoy Muslim culture and respect it and Muslim enjoy Hindu culture and respect it at every place. Both go to same school, same hospital and both are governed by same government. You go to old cities of both cities no difference everyone enjoys there, moreover no one forces any Muslim girl to wear a burqa or not to wear its there choice who wants to can who doesn't live free.

Plus, attacks happen, they happen everywhere India is not some angel country there are bad people everywhere so they do happen you cannot consider it a bad place for some attack, this way Pakistan has blasts everyday, people fight among muslims, Should we consider it a bad place for them to live for them ?? No right, same way in India who live here are regarded as Indians not Indian muslims or Indian Hindus. (Though I do not like to give terrorist any religion as they are not even humans but as you considered some Hindu groups as terrorist, I too didn't back away from stating some muslim groups as terrorists)

ABDUL KALAM AZAD one of the biggest examples of a well known Indian, I can count infinite numbers but lets just leave it here. Every kid prospers in India whether he/she is Hindu or muslim or any other religion or sciety



Bro, No offense I eat beef in India a lots of time. But, I do take care that the person sitting with me likes it or not. But if he/she does or even does not, no one stops me to eat it But sometime out of respect I do not, but it surely is tasty :p

What goes for beef here is most likely buffalo meat. So in all likelihood that is what you are getting.

 

[OTTOMAN]

what a bloody nonsense thread... and people actually believe, that cow slaughter is perfectly legal in some part of bharat

 

[manlion]

 

[Soulspeek]

Hahaha.... For Malayalees, 100 gunaah maaf.

 

[SpArK]

K surendran is the best leader after Rajagopal in Kerala.

 

[nair]

How do you know that it is beef????

 

[SpArK]

How do you know that it is beef????

It looks like chicken curry.