Why Kerala has no beef with beef.

[SrNair]

The answer is simple. Ignorance.

Vedas has earlier classified people into 4.

Vedas were taught and practiced by brahmins only at that time where it has guidelines which included not to kill animals any animals.

Kshatriyas during that age had no issue over hunting, killing and eating it.

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So who is supposed to follow these laws?

We have a lot of stories about hunting of royal peoples in our legends like Mahabharata or Ramayana.Hinduism is not a non violent religion like Buddhism.In some cases it has more brutal aspects.

 

[Soulspeek]

In my place its just Rs. 140/- per kg or Rs.227/- Pak Rupees!

Beef would be probably cheaper in india too?

 

[wolfschanzze]

Why're you in denial??
Not so long back hindus used to sacrifice animals?? Albeit it was banned by the government. Our next generation would prolly think of animal sacrifices as something that was sacrilegious in hinduism. Fair enough!!
I seriously don't understand the religion angle here. As the torchbearer of hinduism I'm sure you know it was Buddhism which propagated vegetarianism(so also Jainism).
Now don't deny this fact too.

And if cow was so sacred then let me tell you there're hundreds of emaciated cows on the Indian roads, nobody even cares to feed them other than on festivals. How about clearing the streets before banning beef??


Lolzz
Don't try old hats on me!
Even before I posted that pic on another tgread I was aware that Putin never said anything like that (Though Russia has a policy to not let any religion influence their politics).

Why should you be against secularism?? I agree that there should be no special privilege given to anyone (majority or minority) in our country. Ppl should be treated equally, nobody should be above the law (neither on the basis of religion nor the basis of ones financial status).
When you push forward the interests of majority you don't realise you're curbing the interests of minority. Nope, I am not talking about appeasement.
As a Hindu, I don't have any issue with anyone around me eating beef. Hinduism is one of the oldest religion in the world and for a reason. So far it has been able to evolve itself with changing times. I see hinduism as one of the most liberal religions (in its true sense!!).
How will forcing your dietary habits on somebody else help you?? Give one good logic??

I am not in denial, Sacrifice "Ahuti" was done by fruits,flowers,Food etc. Not animal sacrifice, Those are animistic traditions who sacrifice animals.

Just tell me how is cows roaming around roads a embarrassment to you?They are animals and don't follow traffic rules,People increasingly encroach upon forests and make them agricultural land.Their natural habitat is destroyed.
According to Western standards ,every animal should be put in a cage,if not it is a embarrassment or chaotic,since they roam around.
Don't give me that Oldest and liberal religion,BS.It is because of that every tom,dick and harry comes and preaches us and we feel it is ok to let them preach us.
Time for liberalism is over, when a Minority purposefully impinges, deliberatley to mock ,taunt us,since we revere cow.Then they should put in their place and shown who runs the show.
No Christian or Muslim will die if they don't eat BEEF.Enough said.
No need for us to be overtly liberal and sacrifice our beliefs so that a tiny minority is appeased.Will the minority worry about your rights and Sentiments,just like you do for them?NO!
Then why this one sided game, that you always Sacrifice and they always take advantage of you.

 

[Soulspeek]

Your kind will be purged from India, much before the likes of your kind even dream of purging RSS or Hindus from India.

Go and eat grass... bade aaye purge karne waale!!!

 

[SrNair]

If ban against cow slaughter is approved by Sanghi government, it will not be honoured in Kerala. Got it? Sanghi parivar- the dirt of the society - you are, will be purged out of the system, slowly and steadily. What India need is NOT ultra rightwing Sanghi Mussolini worshippers, But the religiousness of Indian society as a whole reduces and a mutual acceptance happens. Years back, I believed Sunni Muslims are the only(generally) bigotry filled religious group which still holds true, But, *Today* RSS-Hindus and rightwing conservatives pose a much bigger threat, which many of the Hindus cannot accept due to their own belief that we are the peaceful, secular people. RSS is not average Hindu. they are trained ultra religious groups with their own believes which are enforced. RSS/Sanghi radical forces are trying to topple democracy and destroy secular values which holds this country together. They want to kill Christians and Muslims -No doubt regarding that. RSS and it's ideology moulded by extremists like Hedgewar, Golwarkar, Mussolini etc and are much more threatening than Taliban. If Indian people accommodate this Knicker wearing extremists, destruction of our society is almost sure.

Most of the general populace have no idea about Hindu terrorism, except that people assumes since Sanghis are around the temples and claims as nationalistic, they are our "protectors"(of Hindu). while, average Hindu or Muslim does not have iota of knowledge about the hate ideology of RSS/Hindu-Rashtra proponents. It is indeed, India's failure to eliminate RSS out of our system.

Well I dont think so.RSS is more relevant in now a days .
And there is a reason for it.We have enough history about our brothers did against us Hindus in 1921 during Mappila Rebellion .Same goes to Tipu episode locals turned against us.
Peoples from my community almost eliminated in Malabar area.So this is India we also have Owaisi type and Bajrang Dal types idiot here.
We dont support suchbmorons .But majority of Hindus will support RSS.Perhaps you can see that.RSS is our guarantee
if things goes wrong again.

 

[Soulspeek]

Even that state will fall soon and withdraw their stand.It is just a matter of time.

Bookmark my post. I challenge you to get it done in next 2-3 years!

 

[Soulspeek]

This equation comes into play only when we raise cattle for meat production. In India only those cattle are processed for beef which are old and cease to be economically viable as source of milk or for farm ploughing.

Not just that reason, there are other reasons, like water conservation,

water requirement for for production of ..
Beef : 16726 m³/ ton crop

Pork : 5469 m³/ ton crop

Rice : 2552 m³/ ton crop
Wheat : 1437 m³/ ton crop

Environmental impact of meat production - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

along with that you need huge pasture lands to graze these cattle
More over , I am in favor of expanding milk and dairy farming. Which is more long lasting per cattle

 

[Screambowl]

If ban against cow slaughter is approved by Sanghi government, it will not be honoured in Kerala. Got it? Sanghi parivar- the dirt of the society - you are, will be purged out of the system, slowly and steadily. What India need is NOT ultra rightwing Sanghi Mussolini worshippers, But the religiousness of Indian society as a whole reduces and a mutual acceptance happens. Years back, I believed Sunni Muslims are the only(generally) bigotry filled religious group which still holds true, But, *Today* RSS-Hindus and rightwing conservatives pose a much bigger threat, which many of the Hindus cannot accept due to their own belief that we are the peaceful, secular people. RSS is not average Hindu. they are trained ultra religious groups with their own believes which are enforced. RSS/Sanghi radical forces are trying to topple democracy and destroy secular values which holds this country together. They want to kill Christians and Muslims -No doubt regarding that. RSS and it's ideology moulded by extremists like Hedgewar, Golwarkar, Mussolini etc and are much more threatening than Taliban. If Indian people accommodate this Knicker wearing extremists, destruction of our society is almost sure.

Most of the general populace have no idea about Hindu terrorism, except that people assumes since Sanghis are around the temples and claims as nationalistic, they are our "protectors"(of Hindu). while, average Hindu or Muslim does not have iota of knowledge about the hate ideology of RSS/Hindu-Rashtra proponents. It is indeed, India's failure to eliminate RSS out of our system.

There is a compulsion for Hindus as said by lord Krishna in Bhagwat Gita to avoid cattle slaughtering.

There is no compulsion in Hadees, Quran, Bibel to consume meat!

So it means, your thoughts are against our practice of religion. When there can be law over Hajj pilgrimage, then why not beef?
You are anti secular, you are anti Hindu. You cannot tolerate living with Hindus. You are communal!

This equation comes into play only when we raise cattle for meat production. In India only those cattle are processed for beef which are old and cease to be economically viable as source of milk or for farm ploughing.

You want to feed people old and diseased unhealthy meat? Shame! There should be a law by the government that no old cattle be slaughtered!

 

[Soulspeek]

Mr. Chaddi, who talked of purging Hindus???

You people are so-so messed up in your heads that you bring "Hinduism khatre mein hai" into every thing!

You are no different from those maulvis who shout from roof tops "Islam khatre mein hai"

If you Christians think that you will be able to purge Hindus from India like @takeiteasy suggested, I would advise you against it. The results would not be pretty for you, and even your white masters (on whose agenda you are working to destabilize India) will not be able to save your a$$es.

 

[wolfschanzze]

Bookmark my post. I challenge you to get it done in next 2-3 years!

LOL,when Pan India ban is put in place,what will kerala do?
The day is not far when Hindus,will turn communal shedding Sickularism to protect their interests.As we speak,there is a lot of water flowing under the bridge in Southern States.
Nobody expected Hindutva support in Southern India, but now?The numbers only grow as i said before,It is only a matter of time

 

[Soulspeek]

There are 400 Million cows in India. Each year this count will double as cattle farmers need to impregnate their cows for milk production. That means 400 million more calves. Naturally it would be around 50% - 50% male and female calves.
So next year you have got 800 million cattle with half of them male calves.

Also consider the non-productive ageing cattle being added to the population each year.

Within 5-6 years you would have more cows than human in India. Who will pay for fodder of uneconomical oxes, calves, and old cattle? Where will you get this much fodder?

Dont tell me that oxes can be used by farmers. This is 21st century. Most of the agricultural activities are done by tractors. No one has got time to push the ox in farm for ploughing.

These ban supporters dont even realize that it is not at all feasible practically.

You want to feed people old and diseased unhealthy meat? Shame! There should be a law by the government that no old cattle be slaughtered!

 

[Faiez]

yes thats why my every muslim friend drinks alcohol.

and my every hindu friend eats beef.

We have not hijacked secularism. There is no religious book which says feeding on on cattle is compulsory!!!, Bring me any quote from Bible, hadees, Quran, etc.

But there are books which prohibit killing in Hinduism. It is compulsory for us to ban the slaughter.

So if something which is not compulsory for Muslims or Christians , why are you dying for it? Be tolerant, and adhere 'secularism'. Respect others view

It destroys my beef eating lifestyle.

Also, show me the hindu text where it explicitly mentions banning beef consumption for muslims, christians etc ?

Hinduism applies to hindus, not to everyone else as well. If the ban is not there, there's no one forcing hindus to eat their mata. They can keep their mata even without the ban.

 

[Soulspeek]

When the priorities of a nation changes from progress, removing poverty, industrialization to "dining table", you know you have fckud up your priorities!

 

[Fireurimagination]

Isn't meat made in labs just round the corner? logical and humane thing to do I believe

 

[takeiteasy]

When the priorities of a nation changes from progress, removing poverty, industrialization to "dining table", you know you have fckud up your priorities!

Very few media sources reveals the extend Sangh(RSS) and it's slave followers are destroying this country. You have to think possibilities of paid revisionist histories for e.g. OIT voiding IVC and claims as "scientific" study are all ways to homology the population for RSS to unite majority against minorities. How many of us know whether school syllabuses are changed by sanghi and radical biased lobbies? This may be happening. What we have read about wrongs in Pakistan is now "rightfully" implemented by radicals. Lot of big corporates, high castes, militant people all are working together to realise the dream of Gandhiji Ghatak - Hindu Rashtra. North India is a land of inequality and power games are going over there for 1000s of years. Today it is Hindu Rashtra and anti-Muslim, anti-Christian propaganda that is used to motivate these people.