Why ISI spy posters are all over Islamabad

[Zarrar Alvi]

The blast intensity seems to a very low one.... the picture shows the berth (where the explosives kept) is not even damaged ... for that poor lady, Wrong place wrong time.....

so what is the purpose of commenting on this post ??

 

[Informant]

Freedom of expression goes both ways

 

[nair]

so what is the purpose of commenting on this post ??

I guess i made a mistake of posting it in a wrong thread, had few threads opened (this was supposed to be posted in that chennai blast thread)

 

[Informant]

The blast intensity seems to a very low one.... the picture shows the berth (where the explosives kept) is not even damaged ... for that poor lady, Wrong place wrong time.....

Post in the appropriate thread.

 

[nair]

Post in the appropriate thread.

I guess i made a mistake of posting it in a wrong thread, had few threads opened (this was supposed to be posted in that chennai blast thread)

Thanks for pointing out...

 

[VCheng]

All reporting is done under an agenda. Thats how mass media works.

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BBC is funded by the British public via license fees. The BBC World Service is funded in part by the Foreign Office. But why do you think any coverage by foreign media is "interference in internal affairs"?

 

[VCheng]

BBC doesn't just report. It operates on the British Foreign Office budget on an agenda of furthering the British narrative in the world. They passively create confusion and disinformation among their readers to invoke a response they want the target govt/nation to face.

What is the confusion or disinformation in the following?

"Run under standard operating procedures because there is no specific legislation to regulate its affairs, the ISI is known to have arrogated to itself a monopoly over shaping the country's security paradigm, and creating the social narrative to support it."

Do you want to argue that what BBC has said here is incorrect?

 

[PWFI]

We love our armed forces

 

[friendly_troll96]

What interference? The media are simply reporting on a major news story from South Asia.



Isn't that the basic issue at the heart of the matter?

Chai se zyada ketli garam

 

[friendly_troll96]

One thing has become clear. Pakistani People simply love their Armed Forces and the more West tries to MALIGN Pakistan Armed Forces and its ISI, the greater that Affection grows. These retards from the West and their lackeys just don't get it.

We got some of their ultra-loyal lacqueys jacking off to this very thread, too.

 

[genmirajborgza786]

What is the confusion or disinformation in the following?

"Run under standard operating procedures because there is no specific legislation to regulate its affairs, the ISI is known to have arrogated to itself a monopoly over shaping the country's security paradigm, and creating the social narrative to support it."

Do you want to argue that what BBC has said here is incorrect?

I agree with you, going ballistic over the geo incidence, has internationally given GEO as this report indicate the position of being a target of right wing victimization & propaganda, thus winning over the international view of sympathy, & we all know the international narrative is a very important one & it counts, & if you look at the regional dynamic, this is the last thing Pakistan needs @ this time, in international diplomacy where image & perceptions are the corner stone for policy formulations, responses based on emotions & jingoism always backfires & that's where the whole hype against GEO have backfired , that's why issues such as these, are best left for the information ministry to handle & not the ISPR
there is a reason why diplomacy is best left to politicians & not the khaki, sadly our people just never learns

 

[VCheng]

I agree with you, going ballistic over the geo incidence, has internationally given GEO as this report indicate the position of being a target of right wing victimization & propaganda, thus winning over the international view of sympathy, & we all know the international narrative is a very important one & it counts, & if you look at the regional dynamic, this is the last thing Pakistan needs @ this time, in international diplomacy where image & perceptions are the corner stone for policy formulations, responses based on emotions & jingoism always backfires & that's where the whole hype against GEO have backfired , that's why issues such as these, are best left for the information ministry to handle & not the ISPR
there is a reason why diplomacy is best left to politicians & not the khaki, sadly our people just never learns

Oh they will learn alright, it is just a matter of the easy way or the hard way, but learn they will. All peoples do, in the end.

 

[Amaa'n]

so , is it a crime to have posters and banners of Spy Master of the country on the streets of Capital??? freedom of expression !!!-

I agree with you, going ballistic over the geo incidence, has internationally given GEO as this report indicate the position of being a target of right wing victimization & propaganda, thus winning over the international view of sympathy, & we all know the international narrative is a very important one & it counts, & if you look at the regional dynamic, this is the last thing Pakistan needs @ this time, in international diplomacy where image & perceptions are the corner stone for policy formulations, responses based on emotions & jingoism always backfires & that's where the whole hype against GEO have backfired , that's why issues such as these, are best left for the information ministry to handle & not the ISPR
there is a reason why diplomacy is best left to politicians & not the khaki, sadly our people just never learns

such issues are like a candle that will eventually go off - either by a wind/ breeze or when it finishes up - very rarely it will burn down the whole house ....

 

[Solomon2]

We love our armed forces

The skies don’t fall

By Kamran Shafi
Published: May 1, 2014

The writer is a columnist, a former major of the Pakistan Army and served as press secretary to Benazir Bhutto kamran.shafi@tribune.com.pk

No they don’t fall that easily.

They did not fall when Zulfikar Ali Bhutto was rearrested under Martial Law Regulations a few days after being bailed by Mr Justice KMA Samdani of the Lahore High Court in the murder case of Nawab Mohammad Ahmad Khan. The arrest came when Bhutto came to Lahore from Karachi a few days later and was received by massive crowds, unnerving the army dictator of the time. He was arrested that same evening and sent to Kot Lakhpat jail where he was kept in appalling conditions, his barracks deliberately chosen to be next to those that held violent lunatics who screamed and shouted all day and all night.

He was kept under those conditions, in a tiny cell with not even a charpoy for almost two years, until he was moved to Rawalpindi Jail, again to a tiny cell with no charpoy, until he was hanged after his review petition against the death penalty handed down by the hanging bench of Maulvi Mushtaq was rejected, both trials very widely considered as being completely unfair, his execution being universally called ‘judicial murder’.

As an aside, Justice Nasim Hassan Shah who was one of the members of both the hanging benches, being ‘elevated’ to the Supreme Court just as Bhutto’s case was to be heard there, admitted as much in a stunning interview conducted by one of the most tenacious journalists in the country, Iftikhar Ahmad, in his Jawabdeh programme some years ago. One has to see it to believe the chicanery, the plain skullduggery that went on, but the skies did not fall.

But let’s go back a little for the Bhutto trial and the utter cruelty with which it was held has no parallel in the judicial history of even a half-civilised country. The skies did not fall when the trial was sent straight to the Lahore High Court whose Chief Justice was the newly brought out of retirement enemy of Bhutto’s, Maulvi Mushtaq, who had been superseded and who made no secret of his extreme hatred towards Bhutto. Nor did they fall when Maulvi decided to head the bench himself over Bhutto’s protestations that he did not have any faith in Maulvi.

The skies did not fall when one day, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto was refused the straight-backed cane chair on which, because of a bad back, he used to sit in the back of the police pickup truck to court and back. When Bhutto refused to sit on the wooden bench in the pickup, telephones flew between the jail superintendent and the High Court which finally rescinded its order and allowed the chair to be placed in the back of the van.

When the judges entered the court room Maulvi shouted, “Why are you late?” Bhutto explained that since he had a bad back and the usual straight-backed chair was not provided in time he could not come until it was. “Remove his chair”, roared Maulvi, “You will keep standing all day”.

“My Lord, don’t treat me like this, I am the former President and Prime Minister of this country.” “You are a criminal, and if you don’t shut up, I’ll have you whipped in jail — I have the authority”. But friends, the skies did not fall. Neither when the matter of his being a Muslim came up! I ask you.

Nor did they fall when his wife and daughter were not even allowed to attend the funeral of their loved one and he was given virtually a pauper’s burial with a dozen or so attending. This shamelessness was repeated when another leader was killed under the orders of another dictator, the Commando this time, and no one from Nawab Akbar Bugti’s family was allowed to attend his funeral, only eight servants saying the funeral prayer. But, the skies did not fall.

The skies did not fall when then Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was removed from office and locked up in Attock Fort by another dictator, yes, selfsame Commando in 2009, and then exiled along with his whole family including aged parents. Or when he and his brothers were not allowed into the country to bury their father.

They did not fall when Begum Nawaz Sharif was prevented from leading a protest demonstration and her car was picked up by a police crane and towed to a police station and kept suspended for eight hours in the burning June sun.

The skies did not fall when Nawaz Sharif was allowed back into the country by the Supreme Court in 2007, but was sent right back in handcuffs by the dictator Commando. I ask you.

None of the above has ever happened to any one belonging to any ‘institution’, ever! Even the profligate Yahya Khan was kept in house arrest and before that in a most salubrious rest house in Abbottabad with more than enough Black Dog in the larder; valets, batmen and all.

And yet, all seven of the skies came tumbling down on our heads when a journalist and TV personality was shot multiple times in Karachi and his family informed the country of his suspicions as to his would-be attackers. Whilst the way in which his channel went about repeatedly showing the picture of the head of the ‘institution’ was completely uncalled for, the reaction from the ‘institution’ was not needed.

It is elementary that one should not go around demanding the banning of this or that newspaper or TV channel for two critical reasons: there are other penalties such as heavy fines, indeed criminal action where malfeasance can be proved against individual actors; and two, the negative publicity whipped up by other channels, and the ‘institution’ through rather small demonstrations by banned outfits may actually help the media under attack IMPROVE its demand/circulation.

 

[jaunty]

Am I wrong in assuming that these posters are paid for by PA or ISI themselves?