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Why is India Reviving Insurgency in Balochistan?

You're actually wrong. Bugti tribe defected back and now contribute a lot of men to the security forces.
Haramdad Bugti is still alive. You can call them defeated when that kutta is killed like street bhooka nanga kutta. He has some shitty followers who pee their suthans (punjabi terminology, I don't know if you understand it) when they see Pak forces.
 
Haramdad Bugti is still alive. You can call them defeated when that kutta is killed like street bhooka nanga kutta. He has some shitty followers who pee their suthans (punjabi terminology, I don't know if you understand it) when they see Pak forces.
He has been disowned by his own family, so he doesnt really matter. I'm just saying that you're wrong when you say that the mess is being created by the 'Bugti tribe'.
 
He has been disowned by his own family, so he doesnt really matter. I'm just saying that you're wrong when you say that the mess is being created by the 'Bugti tribe'.
My dear bro, I won't argue with you on this topic. Please read the history of the leaders of this tribe. People from bugti tribe are humble, I respect them. Their leaders suck and are traitors. You got to give them a haddi so they shove it up their a$$es. Their leaders are sold. Haramdad is an example. I tried to control myself but still slang is here and there. Ignore it, its not for you but for these dum katta kuttas.
 
Pakistan has nothing to do with what is happening in IoK. We are spectators and we didn't order you to assassinate burhan. Pinning your problems on us won't make them go away. Face the music sadists.
 
I agree but Balouchistan insurgency is just one chip we have, others being water and other many leverages as well
Though the strategy to break Balochistan seems pretty good. Pakistani Army need to lose a few battles in Balochistan from well equipped insurgents like Taliban won against Afghan Army and then anything is possible, I feel. Though the Pakistani Army has numbers but complicated situation as well.
But the question is, will disintegrated Pakistan (assuming for the sake of arguments plz) be any good for India. Won't then terrorists from Afghan and western and central Asia come to India without first stopping and fighting with Pakistani Army ??
 
when it does, it likely will spill over




By Emily Whalen
Best Defense bureau chief for Balochistan

In the ungoverned corners of the world, conflicts simmering under the surface will almost inevitably boil over every now and again. Given the variables involved, the conflict in Pakistan’s Balochistan province looks ready to do just that — and it will almost certainly spill over Pakistan’s borders.

Pakistan strategists will often talk about the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) and the Pakistan-Afghan border as security considerations, but rarely examine Balochistan, the largest and most resource-rich province in Pakistan, in detail. This can be misleading: The FATA make an ideal backdrop against which to praise the Pakistani Army’s relatively successful Zarb-e-Azb counterterrorism offensive, yet in Balochistan, the main stage for China’s $46 billion infrastructure investment, security forces falter. The active Baloch separatist movement dates from the time of Pakistan’s partition from India, and militants have complicated the construction of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor’s centerpiece, a highway connecting China’s western provinces with the new deep-water port in Gwadar (allowing China overland access to the Persian Gulf). Increased attacks by militants on CPEC construction sites in the past year pushed project leaders to reroute the highway largely through Sindh province, rather than directly through Balochistan.

At the same time, the Pakistani military and police force have stepped up their presence in Balochistan, with little benefit. Forced disappearances and raids against alleged separatists have continued over recent years, with nationalist militias responding in kind. There is no love lostbetween the Baloch and the security apparatus in Pakistan, a dynamic further complicated by power struggles in Islamabad: It’s still not clear who has won the murky power struggle between Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s government and the Pakistani military. As a result, while the Balochistan conflict has always been an international conflict (ethnic Baloch reside in Pakistan, Iran, and Afghanistan), 2016 saw an unprecedented internationalization of the instability in province.

In 2014, at the start of the Zarb-e-Azb operation, the Pakistani armed forces dramatically ramped up their raids and airstrikes against extremists in the FATA. The FATA are a functionally independent region of Pakistan, where tribal law outweighs national law. This means that the areas acquired a reputation as a lawless hinterland. The Pakistani Taliban and its counterpart in Kabul operated fairly freely there, as did a number of other violent extremist groups, including Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and Jamaat-ul-Ahrar. Yet after the Zarb-e-Azb operation’s success, Pakistani officials unveiled in August 2016 a ten-year plan to formally integrate the FATA into the nearby Khyber-Pakhtunkwa province, firmly bringing the tribal areas under Islamabad’s authority.

Three months before this announcement, a U.S. drone strike killed Afghan Taliban chief Mullah Akhtar Mansour in Balochistan’s capital city, Quetta. Drone strikes are relatively common in the FATA, but the May 2016 strike in Quetta was the first in Balochistan; many of the region’s residents felt the strike crossed a “red line,” representing an untenable infringement on Pakistani sovereignty. Within days, protests against the drone strike took place in Lahore and Quetta, among other cities.

Both the successful Zarb-e-Azb operation and the drone strike in Quetta have pushed Balochistan to the foreground of Pakistan’s simultaneous internal-external struggle: against violent extremism and for international credibility and clout. Between August and November of 2016, Quetta saw three major violent attacks: on a hospital (where Jamaat-ul-Ahrar killed 93 people), on a police academy (where Lashkhar-e-Jhangvi killed 63 people), and on a Sufi shrine (where the so-called Islamic State killed 62 people).* Baloch resistance leaders draw parallelsbetween the broken promises of the international community in Syria and Balochistan’s own nationalist aspirations (link in Urdu). Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi referred specifically to Balochistan in his 2016 Independence Day speech, a controversial move that drew criticismfrom Islamabad.

A striking aspect of globalization has been that regional conflicts eventually begin to draw invested international players. Savvy resistance leaders will exploit this tactic to their advantage (consider the success of the Palestinian Liberation Organization at the United Nations), but internationalization is also a perilous path. On the international stage, nuance and subtlety get flattened out, and the political middle ground — where opportunities for moderation and compromise thrive — evaporates as the stakes (and defense budgets) get higher.

What, if any, conclusions are to be drawn from this troubling forecast? Force — whether in the form of Pakistani army raids, or U.S. drone strikes — treats the symptoms of resistance, but not the cause. Real, sustainable security in Balochistan, as in the rest of Pakistan, will not develop until Prime Minister Sharif, with the support of regional partners, addresses Baloch political and economic grievances directly. Without courageous political reform, Pakistani leaders are incentivizing the internationalization of Balochistan and sowing the seeds for a dangerous harvest.
 
when it does, it likely will spill over

I think the so-called writer (most probably with her opinion) forgot that it is indeed a possible map of future Pakistan that currently holds all those Pakistani ethnics together and with continue provocation by the rival around, these Pakistani Ethnics are going to make it like this in future, spill over to take over. Rest about such maps with no Pakistan been created on paper since 1947 and those drawing masters can continue as such but not in reality.
 
Soviet owned BD job could be done due to the best of Brahmins and Parsis, descendants of Aryans, and the best-in-class proxies like Ebu Geddar Mujib and cohorts. These Dravidians have no chance in Baluchistan. Caste system in India exists for a reason..
 
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[QUOTE="Tamilnadu, post: 9192275, member: 176tere will be no peace for Pakistan till it stops interfering in Kashmir.Period
You can claim all you want ,Kashmir is not going any where.it upto Pakistan if it wants peace and prosperity.[/QUOTE]
About two decades of relative prosperity and little men of india are out of their skirts and showing their true colors why they were ruled by Muslims for 800 years and then by britishers for 150 years. Remember! history repeats itself!!!!
 
Soviet owned BD job could be done due to the best of Brahmins and Parsis, descendants of Aryans, and the best-in-class proxies like Ebu Geddar Mujib and cohorts. These Dravidians have no chance in Baluchistan. Caste system in India exists for a reason..

Your utopian assumption is that Muslims are a united bunch and that money is not a motivator to the faithful!
Problem is that we have a lot of it and Pakistanis are ripe for the picking with their gaping fault lines.
That is IF we or anyone else had to.
But we are not involved in Baluchistan, period!

About two decades of relative prosperity and little men of india are out of their skirts and showing their true colors why they were ruled by Muslims for 800 years and then by britishers for 150 years. Remember! history repeats itself!!!!

So 71 again?! History repeats itself?
 
the new RAW chief they appointed is said to be a so-called "Balochistan expert"....the writing is on the walls. We need to be more offensive in our defense. We need delhi to know that meddling in Pakistan (and Afghan and Kashmiri) affairs will prove to be extremely costly.

I'll keep it vague for now.
 
Your utopian assumption is that Muslims are a united bunch and that money is not a motivator to the faithful!
Problem is that we have a lot of it and Pakistanis are ripe for the picking with their gaping fault lines.
That is IF we or anyone else had to.
But we are not involved in Baluchistan, period!



So 71 again?! History repeats itself?

:)
71 was 1st battle of Tarain, Sultan Mummad Gouri was defeated by pirthiviraj chauhan.
In the 2nd battle of Tarain, forces of pirthiviraj chauhan were routed and annihilated by Sultan Muhammad Gouri. pithiviraj was killed in the battle. He was however a brave king not a coward and hyena like indians of today.
 
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