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Why Is China Downplaying Its Border Clash Casualties With India?
By refraining from turning its soldiers into national martyrs, Beijing is keeping its options open.
BY JAMES PALMER | JUNE 17, 2020, 5:25 PM
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Indian Army vehicles drive on a road near the border with China in Ladakh, northern India on June 17. STR/AFP VIA GETTY IMAGES


Welcome to Foreign Policy’s China Brief. The highlights this week: Chinese media sidesteps the deadly clash at the border with India, parts of Beijing reenter coronavirus lockdown, and what to make of John Bolton’s revelations about Donald Trump and Xi Jinping.

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How Many Chinese Soldiers Died in the Himalayas?

The bloody clash between troops on the disputed India-China border, which claimed at least 20 Indian soldiers’ lives and an unknown number of Chinese, is dominating Indian headlines this week—even as Chinese state media downplays the country’s most deadly military action in decades. The story has been relegated to fourth or fifth place in both Xinhua and the People’s Daily, which have led with President Xi Jinping’s phone call with his Ecuadorian counterpart and details of an upcoming China-Africa summit.

Weeks of clashes between Indian and Chinese troops culminated on Monday night in an angry meeting between patrols on a narrow ridge that grew into a brawl. Chinese and Indian patrols on the border customarily go unarmed to avoid escalation—but both sides turned to improvised weapons such as clubs, stones, and iron rods.

The conflict parallels clashes between Chinese troops and the Soviets in the late 1960s, when both armies used hand-to-hand weapons in brawls on the frozen river borders. But then, retrieving the injured was relatively easy. This time, 17 of the 20 killed on the Indian side died of their wounds or exposure to subzero temperatures in high-altitude terrain. Indian media reports as many as 43 Chinese deaths, supposedly based on intercepted transmissions, but that information is unreliable.

Why is China keeping quiet? India and China both have well-developed mythologies of national martyrdom in war, and the Indian soldiers who died are already filling that role. But it seems unlikely that China will even release the names of the dead. There is state hostility toward releasing any sensitive information—and especially for the opaque military. As indicated by the lack of media coverage, Beijing wants to keep its options open—and it doesn’t want to be trapped by public opinion calling for escalation. Deaths could also be read as a sign of weakness, especially if the Chinese side really did come off worse.

Is further conflict likely? Both sides say they want to de-escalate, with each casting the other as the aggressor and refusing to pull back its own troops. A wider conflict seems unlikely, given the range of crises both Beijing and New Delhi are facing—but this will permanently stain public feelings, especially on the Indian side. For more on the roots of the crisis and where it’s headed, see our explainer from yesterday, and read tomorrow’s South Asia Brief.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/06/17/china-downplaying-border-clash-india-military-pla-xi-jinping/
 
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Why Is China Downplaying Its Border Clash Casualties With India?

Because they don't think of India to be in a same league as them.

even as Chinese state media downplays the country’s most deadly military action in decades. The story has been relegated to fourth or fifth place in both Xinhua and the People’s Daily, which have led with President Xi Jinping’s phone call with his Ecuadorian counterpart and details of an upcoming China-Africa summit.

Their main rival is US, why give India some kind of free publicity that they are in the same/equal tier as them.
 
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Win more gold medals in the Olympics then I'll believe Indian army training.
 
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Your Co dead on site,photo were taken by us, some in captive and some soliders fled without their Co's body and later freezed to death and god knows for how many hours they were wandering in the valley,but somehow Indian is still be able to count our casualties amid Mid-night and his people firmly believed it, what a magical army and a magical nation.:agree:
 
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Your Co dead on site,photo were taken by us, some in captive and some soliders fled without their Co's body and later freezed to death and god knows for how many hours they were wandering in the valley , somehow Indian is still be able to count our casualties amid Mid-night and his people firmly believed it, Indian's world.:agree:
Yea, they escaped then came back and counted the deaths and took pictures. Oh wait, there are no pictures. They must have lost their phones. :lol:
 
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Your Co dead on site,photo were taken by us, some in captive and some soliders fled without their Co's body and later freezed to death and god knows for how many hours they were wandering in the valley,but somehow Indian is still be able to count our casualties amid Mid-night and his people firmly believed it, what a magical army and a magical nation.:agree:
well theu are never going to admit their failure. Typical indians
 
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And it will lead to their downfall.

Nahh, they are fine now, US gave China way too much free time. If US had really interrupted Chinas progress before the start of this century then, it would have been simpler and much easier. But their priority was Afghanistan and middle east which they botched. Now its all about recovery from their ME/Afghanistan misadventure, meanwhile China is in good shape. All China has to do is, go with the things slowly.

Meanwhile India on the other hand dreamt big with out having any reasonable advancement on the ground. Their supa power 2020 motto, their shinning india brand, their 5T $ till 2025 GDP. Chinese are disciplined, hardworking and efficient, which we(south asians) can't be. We look for shortcuts, are lazy, we hide behind the guise of democracy, there is no discipline or efficiency.
 
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Nahh, they are fine now, US gave China way too much free time. If US had really interrupted Chinas progress before the start of this century then, it would have been simpler and much easier. But their priority was Afghanistan and middle east which they botched. Now its all about recovery from their ME/Afghanistan misadventure, meanwhile China is in good shape. All China has to do is, go with the things slowly.

Meanwhile India on the other hand dreamt big with out having any reasonable advancement on the ground. Their supa power 2020 motto, their shinning india brand, their 5T $ till 2025 GDP. Chinese are disciplined, hardworking and efficient, which we(south asians) can't be. We look for shortcuts, are lazy, we hide behind the guise of democracy, there is no discipline or efficiency.
Tell me one thing. The difference between US-Soviet cold war and US-China cold war is that US has a lot of investments in China, isn't it? Is the US investments in China negligible?

- PRTP GWD
 
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Indian media reports as many as 43 Chinese deaths, supposedly based on intercepted transmissions, but that information is unreliable.

Hindus trust white western media, but white western journalists don't trust Hindu media and spurn it as "unreliable". It seems westerners still view Hindus in the same disparaging way as they did during British Raj, as their mendacious, dissembling, treacherous colonial subjects:

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=Lco0DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA37&lpg=PA37

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Tell me one thing. The difference between US-Soviet cold war and US-China cold war is that US has a lot of investments in China, isn't it? Is the US investments in China negligible?

It's not US's but the elite of US's. Their elite doesn't really care about US, they care about money. Wouldn't be surprising if their elite wanted slow death of US too. They have 0 problems moving to any other country when they want as long as they have the money. And its not like only US has its investment in China, its the other way around too. First rule of investment is never put all of it in one basket, which US(their elite) didn't follow and went all in on China. Now they can move to Vietnam, Thailand, Taiwan, Indonesia, whatever, the damage is done. As I said its too late now. Meanwhile China is investing every and their elite is under control of CCP. So it's a one unit, meanwhile in US even their elites are not on the same page.
 
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