Why Iran experts are skeptical about the significance of Tehran's new deal with Beijing

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Congrats to Iran on Joining the SCO lead , China - One belt initiative

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Congrats to Iran on Joining the SCO lead , China - One belt initiative

After Erdogan it is indeed a possibility. The other route goes to Baltic via the China Russia river bridge.

 

[Beidou2020]

Let me correct you; that's a Full-blooded reformist sh!t.
They always blindly trust west, and are always skeptical and against relations with east, always.

Your source even trusts Netanyahu blindly which is due to their traitorous nature.

Every country has these Western a$$ kissing cretins that are very happy to live as servants to the white supremacists. These degenerates are the biggest threat to ending white supremacy, they enable white supremacists to thrive.

 

[T-SaGe]

Congrats to Iran on Joining the SCO lead , China - One belt initiative

This was the anti-communist corridor project of the USA.

Today, it is one of the initiatives that China is trying to create for its global hegemony.

Strange, isn't it?

This striking map is the cover of an 1950s issue (no. 22) of Son Çağ, a United States Information Agency publication devoted to promoting US-Turkish relations, both in terms of cultural ties and Cold War anti-communism. Dramatically illustrated here is the concept of the Northern Tier, a defense arrangement in which Turkey, Iran and Pakistan were expected to prevent Soviet expansion into the Middle East.

The Soviets were very politically threatening all these geography in these years. It was implied territorial demands from Turkey and was also destabilized the domestic political balance. Then US had the opportunity to directly influence the Turkish political system. The maps below are about possible Soviet invasion plans in late 50s.

As a result, Soviet occupation movement not happaned, but a country apperad that had to submit to US interests completely. It took us 50 years to get out of this spiral, we still haven't fully succeeded.

I dont wanna touch this topics such on to the US plans to attack Iran during the 2000s. People who are old enough, or those who know about geopolitical concepts, will grasp the common points between these two phenomena well enough.

 

[nang2]

In the international geopolitical arena, anything that long is only of token value.

 

[colonel rajesh]

Why Iran experts are skeptical about the significance of Tehran's new deal with Beijing

Tim O'Donnell
Sat, March 27, 2021

China and Iran struck a deal on Saturday that will last for 25 years. On the surface it seems meaningful; in exchange for a steady supply of oil, Beijing agreed to invest $400 billion in Iran, The New York Times reports. But there's skepticism among Middle East experts about whether it actually signals a significant new phase in Tehran-Beijing relations.

Dina Esfandiary, a senior adviser at the International Crisis Group and co-author of a book about Iran's relations with China and Russia, told The Wall Street Journal the pact "allows Iran to be a little more intransigent," which could make "Europe and the U.S. a little more nervous because it looks like Iran may have a way out of economic strangulation." But she also tweeted that while it may be a "political and rhetorical win" for Iran, "it doesn't change much in its dealings with China for now." Esfandiary said she concurred with Esfandyar Batmanghelidj, the founder of the think tank Bourse & Bazaar and a visiting fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations, who argued the $400 billion figure is "completely made up" and "illogical."

In a Bourse & Bazaar article published in September, Jacob Scita, a doctoral fellow at the U.K.'s Durham University, wrote that the $400 billion figure — which is not included anywhere in the official text of the public agreement — came from an unreliable source, reasoning "the pattern of China-Iran trade" suggests such an investment was implausible. It's worth noting, however, that the Times is reporting $400 billion would be invested over the full 25 years, while Scita writes the source claimed the investment would take place over the first five years of a 25-year plan.

Either way, Batmangehlidj doesn't think the agreement, which other scholars agree is "vague" and "aspirational," should be overestimated, even if it is "geopolitically significant." "The framing that Iran is pursuing a unique relationship with China, that opens it to dependency, is incorrect," Batmangehlidj tweeted.

Why Iran experts are skeptical about the significance of Tehran's new deal with Beijing

China and Iran struck a deal on Saturday that will last for 25 years. On the surface it seems meaningful; in exchange for a steady supply of oil, Beijing agreed to invest $400 billion in Iran, The New York Times reports. But there's skepticism among Middle East experts about whether it actually...

news.yahoo.com

So it remains as before: Only a Resistance economy can save Iran.

iranis should be cautious in dealings with china , specially keeping in mind dealing with srilanka .

 

[TNT]

Iran doesnt need to worry as they will pay with oil, which they have alot. This deal will enable iran to improve infrastructure, buy weapons, jets, ships, submarines etc.

 

[Vapnope]

Iran gets an oil market and China gets another weapon market. How it is not a win win situation? Also Chinese relation with Iran will provide a relative security to Iran as well.

 

[xyxmt]

Ok true, but is farsnews also pro-West?

خبرگزاری فارس | بررسی جایگاه تجارت خارجی در قرارداد ۲۵ ساله ایران و چین

Why do people take a news article like it is the word of God

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

This was the anti-communist corridor project of the USA.

Today, it is one of the initiatives that China is trying to create for its global hegemony.

Strange, isn't it?

This striking map is the cover of an 1950s issue (no. 22) of Son Çağ, a United States Information Agency publication devoted to promoting US-Turkish relations, both in terms of cultural ties and Cold War anti-communism. Dramatically illustrated here is the concept of the Northern Tier, a defense arrangement in which Turkey, Iran and Pakistan were expected to prevent Soviet expansion into the Middle East.

The Soviets were very politically threatening all these geography in these years. It was implied territorial demands from Turkey and was also destabilized the domestic political balance. Then US had the opportunity to directly influence the Turkish political system. The maps below are about possible Soviet invasion plans in late 50s.

As a result, Soviet occupation movement not happaned, but a country apperad that had to submit to US interests completely. It took us 50 years to get out of this spiral, we still haven't fully succeeded.

I dont wanna touch this topics such on to the US plans to attack Iran during the 2000s. People who are old enough, or those who know about geopolitical concepts, will grasp the common points between these two phenomena well enough.

Pakistan always viewed the Iran-Turkey-Pakistan , route as a regional harmony and chance to flourish old trade routes disbanded in last 100 years

Pakistan never viewed any route for anti communist block it was mere assumption as Pakistan generally had interest in regional harmony

 

[no smoking]

Aha....

One good thing: while this agreement does not strengthen Iran, it also doesn't make Iran dependent on China or turns Iran into a client of China or what else is said in the media, because again, this is not a concrete deal, it's merely a gesture of goodwill.

No, this agreement will strengthen Iran's negotiation position vs US in the future because now Americans know, if they don't make a better offer, Iran can count on Chinese for certain economic support.

 

[Homajon]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1376213685413277700

And that's totally correct. There will never be a real close Iran-China relationship, China will always have closer relations with Irans neighbors. The US doesn't even import Oil and gas, but China imports most of its needs, from PG and Caspian, and Iran is the only country in the world to have direct access to both, besides itself having a lot of oil and gas.
China fears Irans potential, so China will always prefer to deal with Irans neighbors, because they are far more easy to handle. China will help Iran only as far as to prevent the US from dominating the Middle East.

Chinas interest is to have a regional balance of power, but Irans interest is NOT to have a regional balance of power!

So as I said, this agreement is only symbolic.

 

[Homajon]

I read the agreement and all I see is "we shall do this and that" or "we hope to do" or "we encourage our companies to do".....that's not impressive. The day after in GCC countries China signed real concrete agreements with real numbers, not some vague statements.
Show me this in Irans agreement with China, give me specific numbers, give me specific decisions that will be implemented on a specific date, not some "we encourage" stuff....

I was totally right:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1376520056096448519

Iran-China deal only a roadmap for comprehensive coop.

TEHRAN, Mar. 30 (MNA) – The Iranian government spokesman Ali Rabei has said about the recent comprehensive agreement between Iran and China that "This document is only a roadmap and does not contain any obligations for the parties."

en.mehrnews.com

Rabei added, "This document is just a roadmap and does not contain any obligations for the parties." This is a general framework and capacity that must be completed over time through agreements in line with the common interests."


So for the last time: This agreement is purely symbolic, it is not "ground-breaking", it is not "game-changing", and it will not strengthen Iran...

 

[aryobarzan]

The actual contracts with specifics will follow soon after the new government is in place..China does not like or trust the current rohanni team..they see them as pro west anti east and on their way out in the garbage bin..

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

I would say China historically has good relation with Iran but not with Turkey. Turkey is not a civilized country like Iran is. Even after conquest of Constantinople Turks retained their nomadic mentality. Turkey invaded Cyprus, Syria, historically at war with China, and now backing Xinjiang secession. Maybe after Erdogan the relation can improve between China and Turkey.