Why Indian Muslims don’t react to aggressive Hindutva politics.

[Placemat]

Islam is a political system that us more aggressive than hindutva. And the statement that hindutva politics is wrong. There is no instance if that.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

bcoz cowardice runs in their blood

 

[Placemat]

bcoz cowardice runs in their blood

Your blood is the same as theirs and theirs are the same as other indians'

 

[jamahir]

since both communities are extremely backward by international standards.

Agreed.

About three days ago, a farmer from one of the southern states committed suicide because the 12.5 lakh rupees loan he had borrowed got inflated to 21 lakhs and he simply couldn't repay that high an amount. This is the tragedy brought by unchecked Capitalism.

The young Leftist leader, Kanhaiya Kumar, wants "Poonjivaad se azaadi" ( Freedom from Capitalism ). This is what the Indian youth should work to achieve, not fight along the divisions brought by religion.

Islam is a political system

You are actually correct but not in the way you think.

Islam is an older form of Socialism.

 

[Placemat]

Agreed.

About three days ago, a farmer from one of the southern states committed suicide because the 12.5 lakh rupees loan he had borrowed got inflated to 21 lakhs and he simply couldn't repay that high an amount. This is the tragedy brought by unchecked Capitalism.

The young Leftist leader, Kanhaiya Kumar, wants "Poonjivaad se azaadi" ( Freedom from Capitalism ). This is what the Indian youth should work to achieve, not fight along the divisions brought by religion.



You are actually correct but not in the way you think.

Islam is an older form of Socialism.

I'm sure Gadhafi is a guardian angel. Pls sir socialism is ruinous. Western style capitalism is best

 

[jamahir]

I'm sure Gadhafi is a guardian angel.

Well, in his time he was guardian to revolutionaries like Carlos .

Pls sir socialism is ruinous. Western style capitalism is best

American-style capitalism didn't turn out to be so good for this woman.

In India, we have had 300,000+ farmer suicides between 1995 and 2015, countless suicides by students, and 30,000,000+ pending court cases. All because India is governed mostly by Capitalism.

 

[Placemat]

Well, in his time he was guardian to revolutionaries like Carlos .



American-style capitalism didn't turn out to be so good for this woman.

In India, we have had 300,000+ farmer suicides between 1995 and 2015, countless suicides by students, and 30,000,000+ pending court cases. All because India is governed mostly by Capitalism.

Firstly it becomes news when individuals are affected by capitalism. Thats because its rare and an anomaly , outlier vase.
The farmer suicides are the result of socialism and its I'll effects all these decades. There was decades of free for all and punishing entrepreneurs in the name of socialism. World over socialism has failed and will never succeed. China realised it and changed. India is trying to. Russia also.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Your blood is the same as theirs and theirs are the same as other indians'

DISAGREE

 

[Placemat]

DISAGREE

You are entitled to.

 

[Jackdaws]

Why cry about Indian Muslims? A Muslim is safer in India than in Pakistan.

 

[Crusher]

I think the ancestors of most of indian muslims became muslims only for convenience, they didn't adopt the mindset or manners of Muslims which is quite apparent from their constant silence against right-wing hindu radicals of BJP and RSS etc.

The article says that indian muslims cannot become a "unified force" because they are divided by languages and ethnicities in india but this also applies to right-wing indian radical hindus who despite belonging to different languages, ethnicities and regions have become united under radical hindutva ideology and their goal is to exterminate indian muslims. Tell me what unites a hindi speaking bhayya radical hindu called "aditya yogi" with a gujarati speaking gujju radical right-wing hindu called "modi".

So this is very weak argument that indian muslims cannot organize themselves under one banner or organization to protect themselves collectively just because they belong to different linguistic and regional identities.

 

[jamahir]

Firstly it becomes news when individuals are affected by capitalism. Thats because its rare and an anomaly , outlier vase.

In 2011 we saw the Occupy movement taking birth in all the Anglo countries. The participants wanted the end of exploitative capitalism in their individual countries.

Once, Elon Musk was asked what was his business plan for Mars colonization. He said there was none.

Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars Triology ( Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars ) contains a sub story about creation of a new economic system for Mars.

The farmer suicides are the result of socialism and its I'll effects all these decades.

Does Cuba have farmer suicides ??

There was decades of free for all and punishing entrepreneurs in the name of socialism.

The actual reason why entrepreneurship was not prevalent in India in past decades was the typical Indian attitude of not thinking out of the box.

Most Indian parents wanted their children to be doctors, engineers and bankers. I ask, how many Indian parents wanted their children to be industrialists or general business people ??

 

[Chhatrapati]

All because India is governed mostly by Capitalism.

India is moderately socialistic. If it was capitalistic then we would've been in better state than before. Look at the amount of capital spend on subsidizing different commodities. Or the number of regulations we have in place, or the shoddy labor laws in place. Only recently, the government have moved away from that approach and let the public bear the blunt of international price swings, incooperate private sector into the government etc...

 

[Jackdaws]

India is moderately socialistic. If it was capitalistic then we would've been in better state than before. Look at the amount of capital spend on subsidizing different commodities. Or the number of regulations we have in place, or the shoddy labor laws in place. Only recently, the government have moved away from that approach and let the public bear the blunt of international price swings, incooperate private sector into the government etc...

The problem isn't socialism and govt run firms. The Govt run firms in Europe are much better even if slightly bloated employee wise. The problem is the attitude of the employees in PSUs. Complete and utter scum.

 

[jamahir]

India is moderately socialistic. If it was capitalistic then we would've been in better state than before. Look at the amount of capital spend on subsidizing different commodities. Or the number of regulations we have in place, or the shoddy labor laws in place. Only recently, the government have moved away from that approach and let the public bear the blunt of international price swings, incooperate private sector into the government etc...

You are partially correct. For example, if I am not wrong, domestic gas cylinders are subsidised. Such things.

Also, the preamble to the Constitution promises socialism to the citizen. The bureaucracy is, I agree, moderately socialistic.

But the background Indian social system is anti-socialism. Take for instance the suicides of farmers. About three days ago, a farmer from one of the southern states committed suicide because the 12.5 lakh rupees loan he had borrowed got inflated to 21 lakhs and he simply couldn't repay that high an amount. This is the tragedy brought by unchecked Capitalism.

Another area of concern is lack of labor laws governing the IT / ITES sectors. For example, IBM-USA has an employee union but IBM-India does not, and this because these Indian employees did not have the far sight to start an union. Therefore, when IBM-India began ruthlessly removing huge number of employees in early 2014 there was no one to speak on behalf of these employees.

@Jackdaws @Placemat