Why India wants to Destabalize Pakistan?

[Hellfire]

There is no doubt that India have these highlighted and more political and economic agendas which goes against the national interests of Pakistan and they will not miss any oppourtunity for sure ...! its upto us how we play the ball game and fail India and other foriegn conspiracies against our country. India or any one cannot do a thing without any Pakistani help i.e "inside help"

We as a nation should work towards to our people and as long as we give the rights to Balochs , Gilgits and others there is no way any one can conspire against us. They will fail miserably!!

precisely

I had shared the same views in a different thread. as long as pakistan is able to keep its own house in order, it can not fall in front of any external designs irrespective of be it India, US or anyone else for that matter.

thanx

 

[Hellfire]

As of till date GoP has not been able to name any nation, let alone a particular agency for problems in Swat.

Infact, quite a few Pakistani politicos and retired generals have told that the threat is totally internal and as a result of the afghan campaign against soviet occupation.

it seems that rationality within pakistan itself is also curbed and the continuation is what we see here in this thread

Zob, you are quite right. You need to prove before pointing fingers ...... and ISI implications have been accepted even by your own Prez!!!

 

[EjazR]

I think RAW gets a lot of credit that it doesn't deserve. It is probably one of the most corrupt agencies in India at present and any efficiency it had during the 71 episode was eroded in the late 90s and early 2000s. Infact, RAW reportedly has only two arabic specialist and as few pashto specialists, skills that would be essential to actively engage TTP. Compare this to 71 where a number of Bengali speaking operatives were available.

I suggest reading the book by Major(retd) VK Singh where he slams the RAW around corruption, nepotism, favoritism and its intelligence failures. India's External Intelligence: Secrets of Research and Analysis Wing

The new Home minister is however making drastic changes with new appointments at high levels so probably RAW will improve in a few years time as major changes are made and do the thing it was suppose to do - protect Indian citizens.

Allegations on RAW : WorldAnalysis.net
Chidambaram appoints new officers in is ministry | TwoCircles.net

 

[Zob]

look bill indian media tries to put everything on the PAKISTANI ISI.....and pakistanis always put everything on the indians but not in the media....


india MIGHT or MIGHT NOT have a desire to destabalize us.....we MAY or MAY NOT have a desire to destabalize the INDIANS....

you need proof or it just becomes a conspiracy theory and these theories make you go crazy so just chill bro and try finding a fact or proof or just ignore it altogether...!!!

 

[Nihat]

And no one could have said it better

 

[Bill Longley]

i was just doing dil lagi

i have learned from my experience that you have to be aggressive to control Indian trolls.

you become soft, they gang up on you

secondly I follow nepolion who said "offense is the best form of defence" and i dont belive in apologatic attitude.
I am a Pakistani and Honor of my country is my respect and Honor so who ever challenges my countries honor I have to respond.
My field is journalism and I have to defend my country's name in field of propoganda /counter propoganda .
I

 

[Zob]

offense is the best form of defence" and i dont belive in apologatic attitude. have to defend my country's name in field of propoganda /counter propoganda .


BILL i completely agree with you on DEFENDING your country....and not ridiculing it!! however don't get carried away into ranting....

there is a thin line between being patrotic and channeling it in a positive way or channeling it in a way that you end up embarrasing yourself!!

 

[Cockpuncher]

i was just doing dil lagi

i have learned from my experience that you have to be aggressive to control Indian trolls.

you become soft, they gang up on you

secondly I follow nepolion who said "offense is the best form of defence" and i dont belive in apologatic attitude.
I am a Pakistani and Honor of my country is my respect and Honor so who ever challenges my countries honor I have to respond.
My field is journalism and I have to defend my country's name in field of propoganda /counter propoganda .
I

in ur sincere efforts to counter indian trolls u have bcom one urself

 

[Bill Longley]

pakhair lalay

never mind abut 71 i cleared their concepts
LOST IDENTITY: MY ANSWER TO INDIAN REGARDING COMPARISION BETWEEN KASHMIR AND BANGLADESH

LOST IDENTITY: TO ALL INDIAN PEOPLE, WITH LOVE

 

[Hellfire]

secondly I follow nepolion who said "offense is the best form of defence"

that was originally by Sun Tzu. Your journalistic claims are suspect as usual sir, especially on such gaffes!!!!!

 

[Omar1984]

look bill indian media tries to put everything on the PAKISTANI ISI.....and pakistanis always put everything on the indians but not in the media....


india MIGHT or MIGHT NOT have a desire to destabalize us.....we MAY or MAY NOT have a desire to destabalize the INDIANS....

you need proof or it just becomes a conspiracy theory and these theories make you go crazy so just chill bro and try finding a fact or proof or just ignore it altogether...!!!

Pakistan doesn't want to destabilize India, Pakistan just wants Kashmir dispute to be solved through a fair referendum like a referendum was granted to every region in 1947 except in Kashmir.

Indians, however, never wanted Pakistan to exist in the first place. They didnt want a successful Pakistan in 1947 and they still dont want a successful Pakistan today and most of them have a crazy obsession over Pakistan and Pakistanis. Just mention the word "Pakistan" anywhere in the internet, then atleast 50 Indians will follow badmouthing Pakistan.

Pakistanis dont really care about India, even go check out Indian forums, no Pakistani goes to those forums and just compare to the number of Indians in Pakistani forums.

What I've noticed while living outside Pakistan and communicating with Indians is that Pakistanis are definately better people

 

[IceCold]

4. Tell me a battle where equal number of troops fought. And when you enacted Kargil what was it, a brave act? you guys dont have guts to attack in straight way.

Really? Though i did not posted on this thread for obvious reasons as it always turns into a dick measuring context but believe me we do have plenty of guts to take India on any given day and that is exactly why we didn't backed down despite of repeated threats made by India after 26/11.

 

[pakomar]

he has degree in strategic studies afterall .... he analysed the history and then gave out the thoughts. So what there is no correlation?

and he wants links ..... yet there is no link to support his usual trite of RAW supporting TTP anywhere till date ..... Even GoP is not saying so!!!!

It’s useless to say that raw is behind TTP even they are. US already pointing fingers on Pakistan army and ISI knowing that only these two institutions in Pakistan are fighting war on terror( because US objective is something else). So if Pakistan did point out that raw is behind by giving proof it will be suicidal for the government of Pakistan. Pakistan did find foreign element in its tribal belt which also includes Russia and US. So if Pakistan says that CIA and other elements like raw are operating in Pakistan tribal area will they expect it. Short answer is NO it only make it worse. At the moment Pakistan is in so much pressure that India and Russian are making full use of Pakistan silence.
90% of Taliban are non Muslims operating in Pakistan once who are killed do n t have their SUNAT done.

 

[Hellfire]

Really? Though i did not posted on this thread for obvious reasons as it always turns into a dick measuring context but believe me we do have plenty of guts to take India on any given day and that is exactly why we didn't backed down despite of repeated threats made by India after 26/11.

oh please sir

am not indulging in mud slinging with you atleast, have great respect for your posts and your approach.

please dont necessarily get involved in this. I care a hoot for either INDIAN "GUTS" or PAKISTANI "GUTS"

For all the bravado, "guts", that is what is usually left over of a human life on a battlefield at the the end of the day.a bloody waste for nothing!!!

Reply was to a member who wants to measure his member maybe ..... and was dealt with in the manner befitting the same.

Thanks

 

[Hellfire]

It’s useless to say that raw is behind TTP even they are. US already pointing fingers on Pakistan army and ISI knowing that only these two institutions in Pakistan are fighting war on terror( because US objective is something else). So if Pakistan did point out that raw is behind by giving proof it will be suicidal for the government of Pakistan. Pakistan did find foreign element in its tribal belt which also includes Russia and US. So if Pakistan says that CIA and other elements like raw are operating in Pakistan tribal area will they expect it. Short answer is NO it only make it worse. At the moment Pakistan is in so much pressure that India and Russian are making full use of Pakistan silence.
90% of Taliban are non Muslims operating in Pakistan once who are killed do n t have their SUNAT done.

We have Hindus who get their sunat done too ...... only its circumcision for medical reasons .....

leave the religious practices alone. next you will say those who are having the said procedure done, are JEWS!!!!!

Give a credible proof, I only asked one link where GoP itself has said so ..... nothing beyond that .............
that is all