Why India wants to Destabalize Pakistan?

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I would just like to add that no one or nothing can de stab a country unless its ppl allow themselves.

Correct - and we are acting against such people - but external involvement can make the situation worse. For example these people have seemingly unrestricted access to heavy weaponry, sophisticated communications equipment, good intelligence and training. They have a huge amount of funds with which to recruit people and promise support to their families in case of death. Most of this stuff is coming in from Afghanistan.

So even if you ignore India, there is an undisputed external element to the Taliban movement in Pakistan (in terms of financing and resources), and one could therefore argue that the situation would not be as bad as it is were it not for that external support.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

"We" did not decide to fight in Swat on our own. "We" were jolted into doing so after the deal 'we' struck with the baddies misfired and 'our' capital was only abt 100 km away from ' them".

You are contradicting yourself - one only acts when one is 'jolted' or one perceives a threat. The failure of the Swat peace deal was that 'jolt' and a solidification of the threat.

The attempt at the Swat peace deal in itself was not a bad policy - had it worked it would have addressed the insurgency issue without violence, so the GoP cannot be blamed for attempting a non-military solution. In addition, it denied the militants the last excuse and rallying cry they had, of 'implementing shariah'.

So yes, 'WE' did take action and are taking action, and that action has involved both military and non-military efforts.

 

[third eye]

You are contradicting yourself - one only acts when one is 'jolted' or one perceives a threat. The failure of the Swat peace deal was that 'jolt' and a solidification of the threat.

The attempt at the Swat peace deal in itself was not a bad policy - had it worked it would have addressed the insurgency issue without violence, so the GoP cannot be blamed for attempting a non-military solution. In addition, it denied the militants the last excuse and rallying cry they had, of 'implementing shariah'.

So yes, 'WE' did take action and are taking action, and that action has involved both military and non-military efforts.

The 'jolt' I was referring to was what US did / said which caused yet another U- Turn to be taken by GOP.

I hope what is being done now works & not end up being too little too late.

The gangrene may have set in too deep and surgery may be needed to save what can... this is what the world fears.

 

[MilesTogo]

I think Pakistan should repond by de-stablizing India...

 

[pakomar]

I think Pakistan should repond by de-stablizing India...

From where Indian buy their brains.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I think Pakistan should repond by de-stablizing India...

Sorry, but Pakistan does not follow India's example on that count. The only region we were involved in was the disputed territory of J&K, and even there Pakistan has backed off completely.

 

[MilesTogo]

From where Indian buy their brains.

 

[Bill Longley]

Originally Posted by theRock
Wow you started with a wrong point...

Did you forget the surrender of roughly 100,000 pak soldiers to just 25,000 indian soldiers in 1971?

Is it a Medal of Honour or a bow down? Which 'history' book did you read?

here is my answer which i gave on Orkut to an indian

mr for ur kind information thousands of kashmiris are liveing in camps in azad kashmir who migrated or were pushed in pakistani part of kashmir by ur RAPEIST,TERRORIST SENA OR PARAMILITARIES WHO NOW ARE COMMITTING SUCIDES DUE TO SHAME OF THEIR CONDUCT WITH POOR MUSLIM KASHMIRIES

as for bangladesh, well its relations with india tells many secrets ABOUT BANGALI MIND SET ABOUT INDIA[]

bangla was 2000 + km away from west pakistan. in 3 directions it was enveloped by injuns. we only had 1 infantry div till 1970, in 1971 we shifted 2 more but without integral armor and other heavy material. we had a squadron of sabers and 10 gun boats. hindu population with brain washing of muslims with help of Indians instigated muslim bangalies and a civil war started. and rest you know......[]
we lost not due to any bravery of indian sena but due to very week line of communication and supply....khair[]
when bnagalies realised that indians used them they killed mujeeb and now every day brave banga army clashes with injun paramilitries and army and rest of story we all know

case of kashmir is different, a portion of kashmir called gilgit agency freed it self in 1947 by kicking dogra army out and joined Pakistan. other part is fighting its war of freedom and so far 80000 ppl have been murdered by ur RAPEIT TERRORIST SENA, WITH ADVERSE EFFECTS ON UR ECONOMY AND MORALE OF TERRORIST BHARTI SENA. ACCORDING TO UR ARMY CHEAP "ON AVERAGE 100 SOLDIERS ARE COMMITTING SUCIDE DUE TO DEPRESSION OF LIVEING IN KASHMIR" IN OTHER WORDS HE IS ADMITTING THAT CONDICTION IS SO WORSE THAT EVERY KASHMIRI IS KICKING INDIAN A***.
BOY BTW IN 2005 MORE THAN 250 SENA PPL KILLED EACH OTHER OR COMMITTED SUCIDE ACCORDING TO HINDUSTAAN TIMES/TIMES OF INDIA

AND BOY IN BANGLADESH NONE OF OUR SOLDIER ,IN MOST ADVERSE CONDICTIONS WHERE MORE THAN 2000 KM ENEMY TERRITORY BETWEEN THE BASE AND AREA OF OPERATION AND POLULATION HOSTILE COMMITED SUCIDE AND WHERE 2.5 PRESENT DIVS WERE AGAINST 10 FULL FLEDGE DIVISIONS OF INDIANS WITH INTEGRATED AIR AND NAVEL SUPPORT.

NOW IF COMPARE THE GEOGRAPHIC AND STRATEGIC REALITIES OF 1971 BANGLADESH WITH 2006 KASHMIR..... I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD BE HERE IF YOU HAVE A TINY BIT OF SELF RESPECT AND INTEGRITY

 

[zubair723]

here is my answer which i gave on Orkut to an indian

mr for ur kind information thousands of kashmiris are liveing in camps in azad kashmir who migrated or were pushed in pakistani part of kashmir by ur RAPEIST,TERRORIST SENA OR PARAMILITARIES WHO NOW ARE COMMITTING SUCIDES DUE TO SHAME OF THEIR CONDUCT WITH POOR MUSLIM KASHMIRIES

as for bangladesh, well its relations with india tells many secrets ABOUT BANGALI MIND SET ABOUT INDIA[]

bangla was 2000 + km away from west pakistan. in 3 directions it was enveloped by injuns. we only had 1 infantry div till 1970, in 1971 we shifted 2 more but without integral armor and other heavy material. we had a squadron of sabers and 10 gun boats. hindu population with brain washing of muslims with help of Indians instigated muslim bangalies and a civil war started. and rest you know......[]
we lost not due to any bravery of indian sena but due to very week line of communication and supply....khair[]
when bnagalies realised that injuns used them they killed mujeeb and now every day brave banga army clashes with injun paramilitries and army and rest of story we all know

case of kashmir is different, a portion of kashmir called gilgit agency freed it self in 1947 by kicking dogra army out and joined Pakistan. other part is fighting its war of freedom and so far 80000 ppl have been murdered by ur RAPEIT TERRORIST SENA, WITH ADVERSE EFFECTS ON UR ECONOMY AND MORALE OF TERRORIST BHARTI SENA. ACCORDING TO UR ARMY CHEAP "ON AVERAGE 100 SOLDIERS ARE COMMITTING SUCIDE DUE TO DEPRESSION OF LIVEING IN KASHMIR" IN OTHER WORDS HE IS ADMITTING THAT CONDICTION IS SO WORSE THAT EVERY KASHMIRI IS KICKING INDIAN A***.
BOY BTW IN 2005 MORE THAN 250 SENA PPL KILLED EACH OTHER OR COMMITTED SUCIDE ACCORDING TO HINDUSTAAN TIMES/TIMES OF INDIA

AND BOY IN BANGLADESH NONE OF OUR SOLDIER ,IN MOST ADVERSE CONDICTIONS WHERE MORE THAN 2000 KM ENEMY TERRITORY BETWEEN THE BASE AND AREA OF OPERATION AND POLULATION HOSTILE COMMITED SUCIDE AND WHERE 2.5 PRESENT DIVS WERE AGAINST 10 FULL FLEDGE DIVISIONS OF INIANS WITH INTEGRATED AIR AND NAVEL SUPPORT.

NOW IF COMPARE THE GEOGRAPHIC AND STRATEGIC REALITIES OF 1971 BANGLADESH WITH 2006 KASHMIR..... I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD BE HERE IF YOU HAVE A TINY BIT OF SELF RESPECT AND INTEGRITY

My Father served in EAST PAKISTAN ( BANGLADESH) till 1970. He is eywitness to the fact that in one school a HINDU was a ISLAMIAT TEACHER

 

[Cockpuncher]

It does n t matter about the common man in India wants. Its what RAW want with Pakistan. Sure India have democracy but it dose n t change a fact that RAW is there because of Pakistan. And Raw will continue its dirty work.

RAW was started after the indo-china war. so u know its REAL purpose

 

[Cockpuncher]

here is my answer which i gave on Orkut to an indian

mr for ur kind information thousands of kashmiris are liveing in camps in azad kashmir who migrated or were pushed in pakistani part of kashmir by ur RAPEIST,TERRORIST SENA OR PARAMILITARIES WHO NOW ARE COMMITTING SUCIDES DUE TO SHAME OF THEIR CONDUCT WITH POOR MUSLIM KASHMIRIES

as for bangladesh, well its relations with india tells many secrets ABOUT BANGALI MIND SET ABOUT INDIA[]

bangla was 2000 + km away from west pakistan. in 3 directions it was enveloped by injuns. we only had 1 infantry div till 1970, in 1971 we shifted 2 more but without integral armor and other heavy material. we had a squadron of sabers and 10 gun boats. hindu population with brain washing of muslims with help of Indians instigated muslim bangalies and a civil war started. and rest you know......[]
we lost not due to any bravery of indian sena but due to very week line of communication and supply....khair[]
when bnagalies realised that injuns used them they killed mujeeb and now every day brave banga army clashes with injun paramilitries and army and rest of story we all know

case of kashmir is different, a portion of kashmir called gilgit agency freed it self in 1947 by kicking dogra army out and joined Pakistan. other part is fighting its war of freedom and so far 80000 ppl have been murdered by ur RAPEIT TERRORIST SENA, WITH ADVERSE EFFECTS ON UR ECONOMY AND MORALE OF TERRORIST BHARTI SENA. ACCORDING TO UR ARMY CHEAP "ON AVERAGE 100 SOLDIERS ARE COMMITTING SUCIDE DUE TO DEPRESSION OF LIVEING IN KASHMIR" IN OTHER WORDS HE IS ADMITTING THAT CONDICTION IS SO WORSE THAT EVERY KASHMIRI IS KICKING INDIAN A***.
BOY BTW IN 2005 MORE THAN 250 SENA PPL KILLED EACH OTHER OR COMMITTED SUCIDE ACCORDING TO HINDUSTAAN TIMES/TIMES OF INDIA

AND BOY IN BANGLADESH NONE OF OUR SOLDIER ,IN MOST ADVERSE CONDICTIONS WHERE MORE THAN 2000 KM ENEMY TERRITORY BETWEEN THE BASE AND AREA OF OPERATION AND POLULATION HOSTILE COMMITED SUCIDE AND WHERE 2.5 PRESENT DIVS WERE AGAINST 10 FULL FLEDGE DIVISIONS OF INIANS WITH INTEGRATED AIR AND NAVEL SUPPORT.

NOW IF COMPARE THE GEOGRAPHIC AND STRATEGIC REALITIES OF 1971 BANGLADESH WITH 2006 KASHMIR..... I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD BE HERE IF YOU HAVE A TINY BIT OF SELF RESPECT AND INTEGRITY

Believe it or not! many people of pakistan have this wrong ideas. Why cant u search on the net for some real facts? india is not "hindu".

many pakistanis are brainwashed into believing that 'India is a wolf that is waiting to destroy pakistan.' Read this report by 2 pakistanis and everything will make sense
http://www.sdpi.org/archive/nayyar_report.htm

 

[Bill Longley]

I am a Proud son of a Pakistani Soldier and have degree in strategic studies

so boy dont try to induce propoganda

talk to me on facts and dont tell me whats right info

 

[Cockpuncher]

My Father served in EAST PAKISTAN ( BANGLADESH) till 1970. He is eywitness to the fact that in one school a HINDU was a ISLAMIAT TEACHER

is it a crime 4 a hindu to teach islam?

 

[Cockpuncher]

I am a Proud son of a Pakistani Soldier and have degree in strategic studies

so boy dont try to induce propoganda

talk to me on facts and dont tell me whats right info

apparently they teach u crap. your posts imply 71 war as a result of hindu vs muslim. and most of ur data is wrong. East pakistan got separated bcos of what pak army did to them. do u want to see what they did. ?

 

[Bill Longley]

apparently they teach u crap. your posts imply 71 war as a result of hindu vs muslim. and most of ur data is wrong. East pakistan got separated bcos of what pak army did to them. do u want to see what they did. ?

boy There were some gross discriminatry policies by pakistani elite

and it got seperated
about indian hand let me quote indra gaand i

to day we drowned two nation theory in Indian ocean...

and about military victery
10 div against 2.5 div
whole air command against 1 sq of sabers
whole navel command against 10 gun boats

bloody ****
you cowards present it as a victory against whole army

time has again and again proved indian intensions against pakistan

you know when indians come to pakistan we honor them our shop keepers even dont charge them
but when pakistanies go to india they are tortured and disgraced

Indian history has told us(both to bangladesh and Pakistan and Srilanka) that trust the snake but not indian