Why I don't contribute to Desaster-Stricken Pakistan

[fast and furious]

The lack of aid is due to Western media 'censorsip' -- consistent with their long running anti-Pakistan bias. Even during the worst of the flooding, Pakistan was barely mentioned in most evening news broadcasts.

There are no Hollywood telethons, no mass concerts or 'we are the world' songs, and no Oprah specials.

Hello Developereo sir.I am new here but have been following this forum for more than a year.Must tell you that you are one of my favourtie debaters.

OnTopic-
Two questions sir.
The media (News and the oprahs of the world),do they operate in oblivion in the sense that the people watching them have a say in what they show or not?
If they do sir.
Pray explain why the whole world wants to see anti-pakistani(not anti-muslim in this case as the floods are affectin pakistan) propoganda?

Hope its not due to the nukes.

 

[softtec]

As far as humanitarian aid goes, it's not needed from people who will purposely be overly simplistic and sell false half truths. India has not been opposed for the wrongs it did, hence India got as powerful as it did, hence it threatens Pakistan. India's power is thus also the fault of these nations who have already committed the wrongs of opposing the Kashmiris, their hands are bloodied with the genocide of Kashmir just as much.

So what aid can be expected from supporters of mass murderers, rapists and arsonists. Thanks but no thanks.

The culture where we belong to, people who give aid, do not give it with a showed-off piety, superiority and arrogance. A wise man who we follow said that when you give with your right hand, the left hand should not know about it.

What a wasteful off topic rant. The height of forgetfulness.Can u calculate how much dollar they poured on your ppl whats the significance of that.Before taking them you should have told that. Its like beggar itself shouts later and give lessons how to be a perfect donator.
In one hand you compare with Haiti, one of the poorest country, where 10s thousand ppl died and almost whole country got destroyed and ask why others don't donate to u like Haiti.But other places u think there is no problem for military budget..u want to compare yourself with bigger countries etc.

 

[was]

Since we talked a lot about perception and its role in people's action, I am putting in an article that gives a view into how amature journalists in North America percieve the current humanitarian crisis in Pakistan. Gives some insight into why its a little difficult for UN to garner up the required aid

Why I don't contribute to Desaster-Stricken Pakistan | Germerica

By Patrice Lagacé

Before talking about the disaster in Pakistan, I would like to tell you about this marvelous “killing machine” called F-16.

You know what a F-16 is, don’t you? Well, it’s one of the most popular fighter planes in the world. They cost approximately $40 million each. And of course, during its lifetime, it will have cost one and half the purchase price for maintenance, repairs (and windshield washer – you wouldn’t believe the insane price of each can of windshield washer that these toys use).

So, coming back to the disaster in Pakistan . Terrible! If we weren’t talking about a Muslim country, we could refer to the flooding as being of biblical proportions: 20,000,000 disaster victims. Just appalling.

Over the last two or three days we’ve been hearing voices accusing the West (Canada and United States ) of a lack of generosity towards a very seriously afflicted Pakistan. People are being told off in Canada, France and Great-Britain.

Why Haity and not Pakistan?

In a recent article in La Presse, my colleague Marie-Claude Malboeuf mentioned that a humanitarian coalition had barely collected $200,000.00 for Pakistan whereas, during the same period of time, a phenomenal sum of $3,6 billion was collected for Haitians after the earthquake that devastated their country.

The NGOs are “stamping their feet”. They are getting impatient. They are clamoring of catastrophe and cholera. The most tragic thing is that they are probably right. Internationally, the United Nations has collected only 40% of the 460 million dollars needed for urgent aid.

Nick Clegg, Deputy Prime Minister of England has berated the international community for its stinginess: “The reaction of the international community is deplorable.”

But I’m extrapolating. I was talking about the F-16. Quite recently, a country acquired a brand new fleet of twenty or so of these fantastic killers in the air.

Which country was this now? Yep, PAKISTAN .

Before going any further, I’m warning you: the writer of this article is a naïve journalist. A naïve journalist who admits it candidly and who wants to know: If Pakistan had $1,4 billion to acquire fighter planes from Lockheed very recently, why doesn’t Pakistan have $460 million to help its own “drenched” citizens?

I apologize to the Red Cross, to CARE, to Oxfam and other non-governmental organizations, but I, for one. will not give one red penny towards the humanitarian relief in Pakistan. I will NOT give a penny to help Pakistan because Pakistan never had any problem buying military equipment or getting financial help to buy some.

I don’t mind helping Haiti , a small country that has nothing (except corrupted rulers). I don’t mind giving help to Africa; it’s the least I can do. I will not give to Pakistan as I will not give to the New Orleans fishermen who have lost their source of income since the oil disaster caused by BP in the Gulf of Mexico.

Naïve Quebec singers

Zachary Richard (a Cajun singer from New Orleans ) is going to produce a CD with the help of many Quebecois singers. The profits will be given to the New Orleans fishermen. Then, they’re planning a charity concert.

Concerts are very nice. Musical charity is very nice too. And I do sympathize with the New Orleans fishermen. But here again, it’s your naïve journalist who is talking: Why should I give one penny to the inhabitants of the richest country in the history of humanity, whose source of income was annihilated by a giga-multinational company with a market valuation of $120 billion US, and belonging to one of the most lucrative industries – energy – on this planet?

It seems to me that the United States of America , that BP, that the energy industry have enough money to compensate the New Orleans fishermen and their families and the offspring of their families until 2060, at least.

But let’s come back to PAKISTAN. On July 19, the New York Times published a condemning article on the tax system of Pakistan. A banana republic tax system, where the rich concocted a way to avoid paying taxes. I’m not talking about not paying a little income tax… I’m talking about total tax evasion. I’m talking about a country where 10 million people should be paying taxes, but only 2.5 million do.

And all of this is legal. The rich managed to come up with a plan which dispenses them from paying taxes. The New York Times mentioned that average – average! - worth (?) of Pakistani parliamentarians is $900,000.

Tax cheaters

Nawaz Sharif, photo, the opposition leader, and a millionaire hasn’t, for his part, paid any income taxes in 2005, 2006 and 2007. “This system favors elitists (a system by elitists for elitists), says Riyaz Hussein Naqvi, a retired public servant who worked as a tax collector for 38 years.

It is a distorted system in which the poor pays for the rich.” What the Times did not mention but what you probably know is, that Pakistan already has nuclear arms. In fact, it owns countless nuclear missiles.

So, if I recap all this…Pakistan is an oligarchy (a government in which a small group exercises control especially for corrupt and selfish purposes) which exempts the rich from paying income tax. Pakistan has money to buy F-16’s. Pakistan has money to keep an atomic arsenal capable of destroying half the planet! I am not that naïve after all… Pakistan has the means to help its own people.

Who doesn't remember September 11, 2001, when terrorists destroyed the Twin Towers in New York. I do remember very well having seen live television coverage showing adults and children from Iran, Pakistan and other muslim countries, dancing in the streets and having a whale of a time because the United States had been touched right in the heart.

They were elated because thousands of Americans were killed. Well now that they’re in deep sh.., they ask for our help!!! And what will they do to us in five years, in ten years?

you can take your red penny up ur arss and shut the **** up

 

[SMC]

What kind of a simplistic, childish blog drivel is this? I mean this is equivalent to a high school students' rant - that too on something they have a hard time understanding.

He probably has no idea about the history of this F-16 deal, which started with 76 F-16s to be bought, came down to 36, and is now down to 18 (option for 18 more still remaining however). I mean you can't just ignore national defence like that. All these armchair experts have an easy time talking down any defence deals without being able to look at things in perspective.

As far as tax evasion is concerned - that is a long running problem. There is no time to wait for tax reforms to be passed and then tax money to start coming in. Additionally, it's ******* pathetic to hold this against the people who are suffering.

And as far as media concerned, it did what it wants to do on 9/11 - show a handful people dancing and obviously try to make an implication that all people feel like this. Too bad way too many fools buy into it.

TBH, this **** shouldn't be posted or commented on. Just keep in the garbage bin.

 

[SMC]

Hello Developereo sir.I am new here but have been following this forum for more than a year.Must tell you that you are one of my favourtie debaters.

OnTopic-
Two questions sir.
The media (News and the oprahs of the world),do they operate in oblivion in the sense that the people watching them have a say in what they show or not?

I am sure you've never studied the media and press in any level. Media does a lot of "filtering", i.e. it shows things that it considers to be its own interests.

If they do sir.
Pray explain why the whole world wants to see anti-pakistani(not anti-muslim in this case as the floods are affectin pakistan) propoganda?

First off, the whole world is an incorrect assumption. Way too many indians believe that the whole world (the correct word is western world because I know that is what you mean. The western world is not the whole world. Does China, Japan, Caribbean, South American, Africa, Middle East not count in the whole world? You don't even know how Pakistan is viewed in those parts of the world. So use the correct term next time -- western world) looks at Pakistan in the way they (i.e. the Indians) look at Pakistan. That is completely false actually. If you were to talk to westerners both online and in real life, you'd get a very different picture.

Secondly, it's not that certain people want to see Pakistan in this way, it's that the media wants them to believe in these things. Take for instance the ground zero islamic center controversy. 70% Americans believe it shouldn't be built, yet the media by in large is supportive of it.

 

[InPhilTraitor]

May be that's why humanitarian efforts should've been made first to remove India as our chief enemy. Instead, India has received high tech equipment, a huge arsenal of offensive weaponry, this n that, in exchange for its continued brutality against Kashmir.

We are right on the mark when it comes to Kashmir - Kashmir deserves its freedom. We maintain our claims on Kashmir for purposes of Good and India is on the side of the evil.

As far as humanitarian aid goes, it's not needed from people who will purposely be overly simplistic and sell false half truths. India has not been opposed for the wrongs it did, hence India got as powerful as it did, hence it threatens Pakistan. India's power is thus also the fault of these nations who have already committed the wrongs of opposing the Kashmiris, their hands are bloodied with the genocide of Kashmir just as much.

So what aid can be expected from supporters of mass murderers, rapists and arsonists. Thanks but no thanks.

The culture where we belong to, people who give aid, do not give it with a showed-off piety, superiority and arrogance. A wise man who we follow said that when you give with your right hand, the left hand should not know about it.

So you expect American tax payer who foot the bill of $200million+ for flood emergency and with $7.5Billion underway, should just gape his mouth when Pakistan buys brand new Subs, Planes and military hardware, and keeps on increasing in the defense budget?

How much did Pakistani government spend from its pocket without relying on the UN and foreign AID for the emergency?

Kashmir rant.. spare me a river there are zillion people in pakistan that forcefully abducted and missing.

 

[SMC]

I like how Indians shift their logic as it suits them. Yet another instance: First, Pakistan gets its weapons through aid. Now it buys them. Brilliant spinning of the ground reality as it suits you.

Now consider this. Did US military decrease their spending after Katrina? Absolutely not. I mean wtf do you think, Pakistan likes spending on the military just for the hell of it? I mean consider your own self. Are you going to buy a gun if you face serious threats? Or are you going to buy it just for the hell of it, even if you don't face any threats?

All you armchair experts make military affairs sound like child's play. They are not such.

As far as Pakistan government's spending on floods is concerned, there are no clear figures yet. Since there are no clear figures, you seem to be making the implication that the spending must be small.

Our budget is not huge to begin with - only 4% of GDP (US spends more % of GDP on military in fact). And we've done what can be done to reduce the budget and military spending. What we're doing right now is the bare minimum that needs to be done.

 

[softtec]

I like how Indians shift their logic as it suits them. Yet another instance: First, Pakistan gets its weapons through aid. Now it buys them. Brilliant spinning of the ground reality as it suits you.

Now consider this. Did US military decrease their spending after Katrina? Absolutely not. I mean wtf do you think, Pakistan likes spending on the military just for the hell of it? I mean consider your own self. Are you going to buy a gun if you face serious threats? Or are you going to buy it just for the hell of it, even if you don't face any threats?

All you armchair experts make military affairs sound like child's play. They are not such.

As far as Pakistan government's spending on floods is concerned, there are no clear figures yet. Since there are no clear figures, you seem to be making the implication that the spending must be small.

Our budget is not huge to begin with - only 4% of GDP (US spends more % of GDP on military in fact). And we've done what can be done to reduce the budget and military spending. What we're doing right now is the bare minimum that needs to be done.

Sir here the context is that you ppl r complaining why rest of the world don't donate u like they did for the poorest country Haiti.Here the context is that the billions dollar aid which all over the world donated u, less for u still.You think other countries should give u aid through trade concessions etc also.Here you want more aid, more concession should be taken care by other countries for your poor country men.Now read your previous comments again.I think any one will feel ashamed before comparing with other countries(forget about US).

 

[indushek]

Since we talked a lot about perception and its role in people's action, I am putting in an article that gives a view into how amature journalists in North America percieve the current humanitarian crisis in Pakistan. Gives some insight into why its a little difficult for UN to garner up the required aid

Why I don't contribute to Desaster-Stricken Pakistan | Germerica

By Patrice Lagacé

Before talking about the disaster in Pakistan, I would like to tell you about this marvelous “killing machine” called F-16.

You know what a F-16 is, don’t you? Well, it’s one of the most popular fighter planes in the world. They cost approximately $40 million each. And of course, during its lifetime, it will have cost one and half the purchase price for maintenance, repairs (and windshield washer – you wouldn’t believe the insane price of each can of windshield washer that these toys use).

So, coming back to the disaster in Pakistan . Terrible! If we weren’t talking about a Muslim country, we could refer to the flooding as being of biblical proportions: 20,000,000 disaster victims. Just appalling.

Over the last two or three days we’ve been hearing voices accusing the West (Canada and United States ) of a lack of generosity towards a very seriously afflicted Pakistan. People are being told off in Canada, France and Great-Britain.

Why Haity and not Pakistan?

In a recent article in La Presse, my colleague Marie-Claude Malboeuf mentioned that a humanitarian coalition had barely collected $200,000.00 for Pakistan whereas, during the same period of time, a phenomenal sum of $3,6 billion was collected for Haitians after the earthquake that devastated their country.

The NGOs are “stamping their feet”. They are getting impatient. They are clamoring of catastrophe and cholera. The most tragic thing is that they are probably right. Internationally, the United Nations has collected only 40% of the 460 million dollars needed for urgent aid.

Nick Clegg, Deputy Prime Minister of England has berated the international community for its stinginess: “The reaction of the international community is deplorable.”

But I’m extrapolating. I was talking about the F-16. Quite recently, a country acquired a brand new fleet of twenty or so of these fantastic killers in the air.

Which country was this now? Yep, PAKISTAN .

Before going any further, I’m warning you: the writer of this article is a naïve journalist. A naïve journalist who admits it candidly and who wants to know: If Pakistan had $1,4 billion to acquire fighter planes from Lockheed very recently, why doesn’t Pakistan have $460 million to help its own “drenched” citizens?

I apologize to the Red Cross, to CARE, to Oxfam and other non-governmental organizations, but I, for one. will not give one red penny towards the humanitarian relief in Pakistan. I will NOT give a penny to help Pakistan because Pakistan never had any problem buying military equipment or getting financial help to buy some.

I don’t mind helping Haiti , a small country that has nothing (except corrupted rulers). I don’t mind giving help to Africa; it’s the least I can do. I will not give to Pakistan as I will not give to the New Orleans fishermen who have lost their source of income since the oil disaster caused by BP in the Gulf of Mexico.

Naïve Quebec singers

Zachary Richard (a Cajun singer from New Orleans ) is going to produce a CD with the help of many Quebecois singers. The profits will be given to the New Orleans fishermen. Then, they’re planning a charity concert.

Concerts are very nice. Musical charity is very nice too. And I do sympathize with the New Orleans fishermen. But here again, it’s your naïve journalist who is talking: Why should I give one penny to the inhabitants of the richest country in the history of humanity, whose source of income was annihilated by a giga-multinational company with a market valuation of $120 billion US, and belonging to one of the most lucrative industries – energy – on this planet?

It seems to me that the United States of America , that BP, that the energy industry have enough money to compensate the New Orleans fishermen and their families and the offspring of their families until 2060, at least.

But let’s come back to PAKISTAN. On July 19, the New York Times published a condemning article on the tax system of Pakistan. A banana republic tax system, where the rich concocted a way to avoid paying taxes. I’m not talking about not paying a little income tax… I’m talking about total tax evasion. I’m talking about a country where 10 million people should be paying taxes, but only 2.5 million do.

And all of this is legal. The rich managed to come up with a plan which dispenses them from paying taxes. The New York Times mentioned that average – average! - worth (?) of Pakistani parliamentarians is $900,000.

Tax cheaters

Nawaz Sharif, photo, the opposition leader, and a millionaire hasn’t, for his part, paid any income taxes in 2005, 2006 and 2007. “This system favors elitists (a system by elitists for elitists), says Riyaz Hussein Naqvi, a retired public servant who worked as a tax collector for 38 years.

It is a distorted system in which the poor pays for the rich.” What the Times did not mention but what you probably know is, that Pakistan already has nuclear arms. In fact, it owns countless nuclear missiles.

So, if I recap all this…Pakistan is an oligarchy (a government in which a small group exercises control especially for corrupt and selfish purposes) which exempts the rich from paying income tax. Pakistan has money to buy F-16’s. Pakistan has money to keep an atomic arsenal capable of destroying half the planet! I am not that naïve after all… Pakistan has the means to help its own people.

Who doesn't remember September 11, 2001, when terrorists destroyed the Twin Towers in New York. I do remember very well having seen live television coverage showing adults and children from Iran, Pakistan and other muslim countries, dancing in the streets and having a whale of a time because the United States had been touched right in the heart.

They were elated because thousands of Americans were killed. Well now that they’re in deep sh.., they ask for our help!!! And what will they do to us in five years, in ten years?

Man why do we have to bring up this kind of material from around the world. Seriously there are already lot of flaming, trolling and bashing threads running amock.

You are a good poster Karan, sorry but i didn't expect this from you.

 

[IceCold]

Since we talked a lot about perception and its role in people's action, I am putting in an article that gives a view into how amature journalists in North America percieve the current humanitarian crisis in Pakistan. Gives some insight into why its a little difficult for UN to garner up the required aid

Why I don't contribute to Desaster-Stricken Pakistan | Germerica

By Patrice Lagacé

Before talking about the disaster in Pakistan, I would like to tell you about this marvelous “killing machine” called F-16.

You know what a F-16 is, don’t you? Well, it’s one of the most popular fighter planes in the world. They cost approximately $40 million each. And of course, during its lifetime, it will have cost one and half the purchase price for maintenance, repairs (and windshield washer – you wouldn’t believe the insane price of each can of windshield washer that these toys use).

So, coming back to the disaster in Pakistan . Terrible! If we weren’t talking about a Muslim country, we could refer to the flooding as being of biblical proportions: 20,000,000 disaster victims. Just appalling.

Over the last two or three days we’ve been hearing voices accusing the West (Canada and United States ) of a lack of generosity towards a very seriously afflicted Pakistan. People are being told off in Canada, France and Great-Britain.

Why Haity and not Pakistan?

In a recent article in La Presse, my colleague Marie-Claude Malboeuf mentioned that a humanitarian coalition had barely collected $200,000.00 for Pakistan whereas, during the same period of time, a phenomenal sum of $3,6 billion was collected for Haitians after the earthquake that devastated their country.

The NGOs are “stamping their feet”. They are getting impatient. They are clamoring of catastrophe and cholera. The most tragic thing is that they are probably right. Internationally, the United Nations has collected only 40% of the 460 million dollars needed for urgent aid.

Nick Clegg, Deputy Prime Minister of England has berated the international community for its stinginess: “The reaction of the international community is deplorable.”

But I’m extrapolating. I was talking about the F-16. Quite recently, a country acquired a brand new fleet of twenty or so of these fantastic killers in the air.

Which country was this now? Yep, PAKISTAN .

Before going any further, I’m warning you: the writer of this article is a naïve journalist. A naïve journalist who admits it candidly and who wants to know: If Pakistan had $1,4 billion to acquire fighter planes from Lockheed very recently, why doesn’t Pakistan have $460 million to help its own “drenched” citizens?

I apologize to the Red Cross, to CARE, to Oxfam and other non-governmental organizations, but I, for one. will not give one red penny towards the humanitarian relief in Pakistan. I will NOT give a penny to help Pakistan because Pakistan never had any problem buying military equipment or getting financial help to buy some.

I don’t mind helping Haiti , a small country that has nothing (except corrupted rulers). I don’t mind giving help to Africa; it’s the least I can do. I will not give to Pakistan as I will not give to the New Orleans fishermen who have lost their source of income since the oil disaster caused by BP in the Gulf of Mexico.

Naïve Quebec singers

Zachary Richard (a Cajun singer from New Orleans ) is going to produce a CD with the help of many Quebecois singers. The profits will be given to the New Orleans fishermen. Then, they’re planning a charity concert.

Concerts are very nice. Musical charity is very nice too. And I do sympathize with the New Orleans fishermen. But here again, it’s your naïve journalist who is talking: Why should I give one penny to the inhabitants of the richest country in the history of humanity, whose source of income was annihilated by a giga-multinational company with a market valuation of $120 billion US, and belonging to one of the most lucrative industries – energy – on this planet?

It seems to me that the United States of America , that BP, that the energy industry have enough money to compensate the New Orleans fishermen and their families and the offspring of their families until 2060, at least.

But let’s come back to PAKISTAN. On July 19, the New York Times published a condemning article on the tax system of Pakistan. A banana republic tax system, where the rich concocted a way to avoid paying taxes. I’m not talking about not paying a little income tax… I’m talking about total tax evasion. I’m talking about a country where 10 million people should be paying taxes, but only 2.5 million do.

And all of this is legal. The rich managed to come up with a plan which dispenses them from paying taxes. The New York Times mentioned that average – average! - worth (?) of Pakistani parliamentarians is $900,000.

Tax cheaters

Nawaz Sharif, photo, the opposition leader, and a millionaire hasn’t, for his part, paid any income taxes in 2005, 2006 and 2007. “This system favors elitists (a system by elitists for elitists), says Riyaz Hussein Naqvi, a retired public servant who worked as a tax collector for 38 years.

It is a distorted system in which the poor pays for the rich.” What the Times did not mention but what you probably know is, that Pakistan already has nuclear arms. In fact, it owns countless nuclear missiles.

So, if I recap all this…Pakistan is an oligarchy (a government in which a small group exercises control especially for corrupt and selfish purposes) which exempts the rich from paying income tax. Pakistan has money to buy F-16’s. Pakistan has money to keep an atomic arsenal capable of destroying half the planet! I am not that naïve after all… Pakistan has the means to help its own people.

Who doesn't remember September 11, 2001, when terrorists destroyed the Twin Towers in New York. I do remember very well having seen live television coverage showing adults and children from Iran, Pakistan and other muslim countries, dancing in the streets and having a whale of a time because the United States had been touched right in the heart.

They were elated because thousands of Americans were killed. Well now that they’re in deep sh.., they ask for our help!!! And what will they do to us in five years, in ten years?

I agree with the writer. But then we have beggars as leaders and the nation is following pursuit. Indeed when we hate the US of A from the bottom of our heart, why expect them to come over and help us when we are in trouble(they did anyways) i mean come on we shouldnt be that hypocrite but then again we are Pakistanis known for being hypocrites. We burn the American flag at one end and on the other expect them to come over when we are being washed over by the floods.
Pakistanis as a nation need to learn to stand up on their own that is and not look towards others. If we can buy F-16s, make ghauris and shaheens, then surely we can stand up on our own, its just that we will learn the hard way and indeed we are learning.

 

[IceCold]

Man why do we have to bring up this kind of material from around the world. Seriously there are already lot of flaming, trolling and bashing threads running amock.

You are a good poster Karan, sorry but i didn't expect this from you.

What do you mean you did not expect this? Are you implying that Karin did something wrong by posting this article. I feel contrary to that. Good find Karan.

 

[karan.1970]

I like how Indians shift their logic as it suits them. Yet another instance: First, Pakistan gets its weapons through aid. Now it buys them. Brilliant spinning of the ground reality as it suits you.

Now consider this. Did US military decrease their spending after Katrina? Absolutely not. I mean wtf do you think, Pakistan likes spending on the military just for the hell of it? I mean consider your own self. Are you going to buy a gun if you face serious threats? Or are you going to buy it just for the hell of it, even if you don't face any threats?

All you armchair experts make military affairs sound like child's play. They are not such.

As far as Pakistan government's spending on floods is concerned, there are no clear figures yet. Since there are no clear figures, you seem to be making the implication that the spending must be small.

Our budget is not huge to begin with - only 4% of GDP (US spends more % of GDP on military in fact). And we've done what can be done to reduce the budget and military spending. What we're doing right now is the bare minimum that needs to be done.

Correction.. Not an Indian author...

Also comparison with USA and Katrina is flawed since the author is talking about the need for aid. USA didnt ask for aid after katrina.

On budget, 4% is not only, but is on the higher side. World average is close to 2.5%. India is at a paltry 2.5% or so. USA is 4.0

BTW as I said, I dont agree to the author on the defence spend. but goes to highlight how the west sees the situation in Pakistan..

 

[karan.1970]

Man why do we have to bring up this kind of material from around the world. Seriously there are already lot of flaming, trolling and bashing threads running amock.

You are a good poster Karan, sorry but i didn't expect this from you.

I am sorry you feel this way. As I said in the 1st few lines, this was a discussion point on how a common man in North American perceives the current floods crisis in Pakistan and why has it been tough for UN to raise aid to help Pakistan out.. After its only conflicting peceptions that we are here to discuss....

 

[SMC]

Correction.. Not an Indian author...

I was talking the post above me.

Also comparison with USA and Katrina is flawed since the author is talking about the need for aid. USA didnt ask for aid after katrina.

But US didn't divert all their defence resources to Katrina, did they? That's the point I am trying to make.

On budget, 4% is not only, but is on the higher side. World average is close to 2.5%. India is at a paltry 2.5% or so. USA is 4.0

India I believe is around 3% - 3.5% so not that big a difference. US is 4 or 4.5%. 4% is bare minimum required for Pakistan.

BTW as I said, I dont agree to the author on the defence spend. but goes to highlight how the west sees the situation in Pakistan..

Well, many people put things very simple but this does not speak for all the west.

 

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