Why hasn't Pakistan been able to have a sustained GDP growth rate?

[Indus Pakistan]

religious person from backward education level, but many religious people who have reached high education level

Reality is always complicated. The operative word here is "outlook". Take Yusuf Islam [the singer Cat Stevens] who converted to Islam. However as a a American who was exposed to, acculturized to secular outlook and education his interpretation of Islam is differant from say a Talib in Afghanistan. You mention Erdogan. Turks as a people have been reformed since 1921 under a secular project. Erdogan is product of that society and despite being religious remains a staunch secularist. I was struck by the Turkish secularism last summer. After nearly 20 years in power under the so called Islamist Erdogan the first thing I saw at the giant new Istanbul Airport was huge advertising displays for alcohol drinks. Bar and clubs line many streets in Istanbul. Scantly clad, drunk woman walk the streets adjacent to Ottoman era mosques. This sort of Islam or society is unkown in Pakistan.

The Islam we have in Pakistan is all about keeping females trapped, keeping the poor trapped and essentially anti-progress. Think of mutation of primitive mind and religious dogma making a lethal cocktail which millions have supped creating a collective madness.

 

[Uguduwa]

Religious backwardness is a product of lazy South Asian culture.

 

[Indos]

Scantly clad, drunk woman walk the streets adjacent to Ottoman era mosques. This sort of Islam or society is unkown in Pakistan.

Maybe just Russian/Westerners Tourist

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Maybe just Russian/Westerners Tourist

Yes and local Turkish ladies. Istanbul has a strong LGBT scene.

 

[FuturePAF]

I would say Pakistan should scrap that FTA with China and start putting as much tariff as possible base on WTO regulation since Pakistan industry at the moment is still in infant phase.

Ideally yes, but that would antagonize the Chinese. Renegotiating the FTA may also be precarious when hoping to secure further loans from China.

Considering Pakistan doesn’t have any other investors/lenders it can count on, other than China and Overseas Pakistanis. It should focus on getting overseas Pakistanis to invest in export orient industries for Chinese and Non-Chinese markets.

laser focused on labor intensive industries and in those areas where Pakistani products can be competitive Globally despite the uphill climb.

We also need investment to raise our agricultural yields so we can produce raw materials for our value added industries at competitive prices.

 

[Indos]

Ideally yes, but that would antagonize the Chinese. Renegotiating the FTA may also be precarious when hoping to secure further loans from China.

Considering Pakistan doesn’t have any other investors/lenders it can count on, other than China and Overseas Pakistanis. It should focus on getting overseas Pakistanis to invest in export orient industries for Chinese and Non-Chinese markets.

laser focused on labor intensive industries and in those areas where Pakistani products can be competitive Globally despite the uphill climb.

We also need investment to raise our agricultural yields so we can produce raw materials for our value added industries at competitive prices.

Even Economist in general admit that free trade is not good for countries that hasnt yet have solid industry (even greater problem will be faced to compete with low cost industrialized country like China) and you can see the comment on the link I provide which will discuss about the industrialization in Indonesia and the measures that should be taken to make the country more industrialized with more sophisticated product.

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The report also show Indonesian economy and its manufacturing sector grows more rapidly under an economy that is less open than Today (1980-1997).

The report also suggest that without government interference, it is difficult to grow industry that has high value added. Having an open market is not necessarily create manufacturing sector with sophisticated product.

https://www.adb.org/sites/default/files/publication/481506/policies-manufacturing-sector-indonesia-2020-2014.pdf

 

[Yankee-stani]

Yes and local Turkish ladies. Istanbul has a strong LGBT scene.

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That depends where you are in Turkey,Turkey is a mini USA in a way the Coastal cities are more liberal and closer to Europe whereas the East and Central Anatolian plain tend to be more like the Quran belt just like the Bible belt in the South here

 

[FuturePAF]

Even Economist in general admit that free trade is not good for countries that hasnt yet have solid industry (even greater problem will be faced to compete with low cost industrialized country like China) and you can see the comment on the link I provide which will discuss about the industrialization in Indonesia and the measures that should be taken to make the country more industrialized with more sophisticated product.

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The report also show Indonesian economy and its manufacturing sector grows more rapidly under an economy that is less open than Today (1980-1997).

The report also suggest that without government interference, it is difficult to grow industry that has high value added. Having an open market is not necessarily create manufacturing sector with sophisticated product.

https://www.adb.org/sites/default/files/publication/481506/policies-manufacturing-sector-indonesia-2020-2014.pdf

That is why the decades lost, should be on the heads of those leaders that squandered them and should be part of their crimes.

Having said that, we have to work within the limits of the bad situation we have put ourselves in.

While Overseas Pakistanis remit a certain amount, they have the potential to be convinced that Pakistan has the potential to grow faster then their other investment opportunities if the government of fully prepared to make the macroeconomic reforms, and therefore could be convinced to invest in Pakistan beyond remittances. It is incumbent on this government to reach out to new investors in the overseas Pakistani community and map out an investment strategy that works towards that goal. Otherwise we will end up losing our independent potential growth avenues and be stuck in a low income trap; losing our best talent to emigration.

 

[Arsalan 345]

Because everyone is corrupt. from small business to large business, from lawyers to doctors and from education to police, everyone is corrupt. i see corruption daily and i smile lol. i mean nobody can change these people. there is a desire for more money. I believe someday people will ask others to check their wallets for money. this is a country where on one place you can see how easy it's to take a life. for example dogs killing spree and put all dead bodies on main road. on the other hand, you can find lots of ummah chumma and religious people talking about Hazrat umar(R.A) and how he treated people. they even tell you that killing is not a part of Islam.

i fed up. these **** has destroyed this country. no humanity. forget dogs, human beings aren't safe and our national animal is for sale hahaha. let's enjoy corruption together! Together we will eat Pakistan. hahaha

Reasons abbreviated -

• Too much religion.
• Too much mosque.
• Too much Mullah power.
• Too much prayers.

• Not enough education
• Not enough skill learning
• Not enough hard work ethic
• Not enough opening to the global economy
• Not being being open to new ideas

sir no humanity as well. i have seen dead bodies of dogs lying openly. on the other hand, you can offer namaz e jumma where they describe characteristics of Islam. it's a joke. anything that can't speak is easy to kill like dogs, maarkhors etc. human beings are mostly fake. they pretend like they are following every rule but they themselves are most corrupt. PIA finished, Steel mills finished. they eat everything. one day people will swallow others in Pakistan. i can see everything but i can't change this system. it's impossible.

 

[Indos]

Ideally yes, but that would antagonize the Chinese. Renegotiating the FTA may also be precarious when hoping to secure further loans from China.

Considering Pakistan doesn’t have any other investors/lenders it can count on, other than China and Overseas Pakistanis. It should focus on getting overseas Pakistanis to invest in export orient industries for Chinese and Non-Chinese markets.

laser focused on labor intensive industries and in those areas where Pakistani products can be competitive Globally despite the uphill climb.

We also need investment to raise our agricultural yields so we can produce raw materials for our value added industries at competitive prices.

Yup, Pakistani overseas should invest in Pakistan but manufacturing needs huge capital as Pakistani overseas in general are professionals, not business people.

I suggest to invest in service industry like IT, design, architect, and other modern service industry and hopefully tap Chinese market and Western market. Service based business can be started small but rely on knowledgeable people that I believe is a nature of Pakistani overseas in Western countries.

Philippine economy for instant rely heavily on service sectors and they can have 6-7 % economic growth in the last 5 years. Pakistani also has relatively good English speakers compared to other developing countries, just like many British and US colony (Philippine is included). From service sector than move to industry if capital is not a problem anymore, just like Elon Musk business strategy.

 

[Clutch]

Reasons abbreviated -

• Too much religion.
• Too much mosque.
• Too much Mullah power.
• Too much prayers.

• Not enough education
• Not enough skill learning
• Not enough hard work ethic
• Not enough opening to the global economy
• Not being being open to new ideas

• Not enough true Islam
• Not enough open welcoming mosques
• Not enough Islamic educated Scholars
• Not enough prayers with intent

Plus....

• Not enough education
• Not enough skill learning
• Not enough hard work ethic
• Not enough opening to the global economy
• Not being being open to new ideas

 

[striver44]

Tribalism.

The innate paranoia of some of the xenophobic tribes inhabiting the country for the Arab religion.

Growth is defined as how smooth the urbanization process is in the rural areas. The tribal people practice caste system which does not allow for families born in lower strata to own land or resource or be seen as equals.

Much of the country's conservative values emanating from culture and tradition are repackaged as Islam and sold as tool of subjugation.

The concept of Martial race also dons the religious cloak in polity.

Rest of the rants by people here are insecurity driven paranoia.

The arab religion?

Islam is an arab religion?

Wow, the chinese commies here are very successful making an entire generation of ignorant people.

 

[El Sidd]

The arab religion?

Islam is an arab religion?

Wow, the chinese commies here are very successful making an entire generation of ignorant people.

Yes. Islam is considered an Arab religion by the natives in Pakistan.

In its southern province it is seen as invading force by the Sindhi and Baloch nationalists who prefer Persian religion over Arab.

 

[striver44]

Yes. Islam is considered an Arab religion by the natives in Pakistan.

In its southern province it is seen as invading force by the Sindhi and Baloch nationalists who prefer Persian religion over Arab.

Hmmm I see, I see..... No wonder many of you guys here are fooled by the chinese communist about their perception of the religion. Hehe

 

[El Sidd]

Hmmm I see, I see..... No wonder many of you guys here are fooled by the chinese communist about their perception of the religion. Hehe

Try harder to drag Chinese into this.