Why Eid is not today?

[Strike X]

80% of the world are doing Eid today, why do Pakistan always prefer a day after? really messed up!

 

[VILAYATI]

80% of the world are doing Eid today, why do Pakistan always prefer a day after? really messed up!

We are celebrating Eid Mubarak on 22nd Aug 18 in india. Happy Eid.

 

[war&peace]

India, Indonesia, Morocco will also celebrate Eid tomorrow

Pakistan + Indonesia + India + Morocco so at least 50% of Muslims.

 

[Trango Towers]

But why...when haj has been performed?

 

[Sugarcane]

I also have same question, when we are using technology and watches to set prayer times then why we don't use technology to make Islamic calendar, we ask Molvis to find out and announce sighting of moon for us

 

[HannibalBarca]

But why...when haj has been performed?

I also have same question, when we are using technology and watches to set prayer times then why we don't use technology to make Islamic calendar, we ask Molvis to find out and announce sighting of moon for us

Same as why prayer time around the world is Different...
You have a set of Rules... that work in Different situations... And Different conditions.

It's a way to perpetuate a "methodology" Whenever the time/Situation/Condition the Human society is...
Whatever you are lost or not..Whatever you are back in stone age... or somewhere without civilisation... YOu will be able to apply that "Methodology alone and correctly".

It's the same with "Islamic Slaughter"... Nowadays you don't need to cut by our ways to make the meat "Good for Humans" 'Since it's the main subject for such practice"... We have the technology to drain the blood per exemple or making sure the Meat is safe... But it's a "Methodology" to perpetuate for X or Y situation/Condition Human society is/ or individuals... That way, Wherever you are... you will know.

 

[Sugarcane]

Same as why prayer time around the world is Different...
You have a set of Rules... that work in Different situations... And Different conditions.

It's a way to perpetuate a "methodology" Whenever the time/Situation/Condition the Human society is...
Whatever you are lost or not..Whatever you are back in stone age... or somewhere without civilisation... YOu will be able to apply that "Methodology alone and correctly".

It's the same with Islamic Slaughter"... Nowadays you don't need to cut by our ways to make the meat "Good for Humans"... We have technology to drain the blood per exemple... But it's a "Methodology" to perpetuate for X or Y situation/Condition Human society is/ or individuals... That way, Wherever you are... you will now

Not convinced, We have technology today which can tell us exact times of sunrise and sunset, accurately predict the Sun, Moon eclipse and times of it. So, we surely can calculate calendar even for next 10 years.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Not convinced, We have technology today which can tell us exact times of sunrise and sunset, accurately predict the Sun, Moon eclipse and times of it. So, we surely can calculate calendar even for next 10 years.

That doesn't' work like that... That Methodology is not mean for "Your conditions/Situation" it's meant for Humanity...
Whatever the Time Period...

Therefore you play by the rules... Whatever you like it or not... You need "Perpetuation" to maintain something...
Look at Christianity... They evolved with their time and accepted any "new things" that helped them in their practice...and today... you know the consequences...

Many "Islamic sects" took the same road as Christianity and You also got the consequences...

 

[Sugarcane]

That doesn't' work like that... That Methodology is not mean for "Your conditions/Situation" it's meant for Humanity...
Whatever the Time Period...

Therefore you play by the rules... Whatever you like it or not... You need "Perpetuation" to maintain something...
Look at Christianity... They evolved with their time and accepted any "new things" that helped them in their practice...and today... you know the consequences...

Many "Islamic sect" took the same road as Christianity and You also got the consequences...

Bro, we don't follow the methodology of measuring shadows for prayers during day, or at sky for morning and night prayers.

 

[war&peace]

Bro, we don't follow the methodology of measuring shadows for prayers during day, or at sky for morning and night prayers.

The perpetual timetables prepared for our use in the mosques with hh:mm are basically following those shadow measuring techniques so you can't say we don't use those techniques.. it is just the implementation details have been hidden from your eyes.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Even UK has two eid. Some had it today while others celebrating tomorrow

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/when-is-eid-ul-adha-in-uk.573601/

 

[Sugarcane]

The perpetual timetables prepared for our use in the mosques with hh:mm are basically following those shadow measuring techniques so you can't say we don't use those techniques.. it is just the implementation details have been hidden from your eyes.

The point is we are using modern technology available to prepare the timetable for prayers not the old methods, and we can make accurate calendar using same science and technology now.

 

[war&peace]

The point is we are using modern technology available to prepare the timetable for prayers not the old methods, and we can make accurate calendar using same science and technology now.

I see where you are coming from and I tend to think like that as well. But now i have trying to understand the real soul of Islam. Islam basically is a universal religion and has to cater for the needs of all humans living varying climatic conditions from the arctic circle in the north to the deserts and people living in the Amazon rain forests with very limited resource and technology available thus the basic source of acquiring knowledge remains the human senses like sight, hearing, smell, taste and touch. So traditional ways being analog in nature will generate continuous data. In my understanding the literal meanings often lead to rigid and wrong conclusions and thus we should interpret figuratively...thus celebrating literally with Hajj in Mecca is not desired.

 

[Dubious]

Honestly speaking I dont think it matters.....If both are acceptable (watching moon yourself or calculating) why complain? Nowhere does it say 1 is better nor does it state ONLY 1 should be followed....Most European countries have 2 because Pakistanis and Indians mostly always follow homeland...while some ALWAYS follow Saudi based on Hajj....few follow the moon....

If we had enough brains to unite we would have been...but that is a long way I guess....But the good is the molvi get the ghunna for doing it wrong...if it is wrong

 

[Trango Towers]

Same as why prayer time around the world is Different...
You have a set of Rules... that work in Different situations... And Different conditions.

It's a way to perpetuate a "methodology" Whenever the time/Situation/Condition the Human society is...
Whatever you are lost or not..Whatever you are back in stone age... or somewhere without civilisation... YOu will be able to apply that "Methodology alone and correctly".

It's the same with "Islamic Slaughter"... Nowadays you don't need to cut by our ways to make the meat "Good for Humans" 'Since it's the main subject for such practice"... We have the technology to drain the blood per exemple or making sure the Meat is safe... But it's a "Methodology" to perpetuate for X or Y situation/Condition Human society is/ or individuals... That way, Wherever you are... you will know.

Noce story....but only onr hajj performed at one place. So next day is eid...now you have phones satellites and planes etc so easy to know.....
Mixing issues and comparing to prayer times is like comparing apples and oranges