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On Faith Panelists Blog: Why don't women have more rights in Muslim countries? - John Esposito

No one should be complacent about the condition of women in many Muslim (or many Western) societies. Americans certainly are not. When asked the open-ended question ''What do you admire least about the Muslim or Islamic world?'' among the top responses is ''gender inequality,'' associated with veiling, female segregation, illiteracy, and powerlessness. Patriarchy and its legacy, legitimated in the name of religion, remains alive in various Muslim countries although it is also being progressively challenged on many levels.

The realities of women in the Arab and Muslim worlds present a complex picture of individuals in different situations and varied social contexts. Many are unfairly subject to powerful forces of patriarchy and religion, but significant numbers of other women are far more empowered and respected in their own cultures than blanket stereotypes might lead us to believe. The status and roles of women in the Muslim world vary considerably, influenced as much by literacy, education, and economic development as by religion. Men and women in Muslim societies grapple with many gender issues, ranging from the extent of women's education and employment to women's role in the family or to the nature of their religious leadership and authority in Islam

Today, Muslim women and Islamic scholars and activists, representing many ideological orientations, are increasingly speaking out. They are empowering themselves not just as defenders of women's rights but also as interpreters of the Islamic tradition. Many argue that patriarchy as much as religion, indeed patriarchy linked to religion, accounts for customs that became long-standing traditions affecting gender relations and women's status in society.

When it comes to popular Muslim attitudes about women's rights, the facts aren't always what one might expect. As the 2007 Gallup World Poll reveals, majorities of Muslims, some in the most conservative Muslim societies, support women's equal rights. Majorities in virtually every country surveyed say women should have the same legal rights as men to serve in the highest levels of government. In addition, majorities of both men and women in dozens of Muslim countries around the world: for example, 61% of Saudis, 85% of Iranians and 90% range in Indonesia, Turkey, Bangladesh and Lebanon say that men and women should have the same legal rights. Majorities also support a woman's right to work outside the home in any job for which a woman qualifies (90% in Malaysia, 86% in Turkey, 85% in Egypt and 69% in Saudi Arabia) and a woman's right to vote without interference from family members (80% in Indonesia, 89% in Iran, 67% in Pakistan, 90% in Bangladesh, 76% in Jordan, 93% in Turkey and 56% in Saudi Arabia).
At the same time, the complexities surrounding women's status are illustrated by country-specific contradictions:

Women in Egypt today have access to the best education and hold responsible professional positions in virtually every sector. Yet, like women in most Muslim societies, until recently they needed a male family member's permission to travel.
While women cannot vote in Saudi Arabia, in almost every other Muslim country, women do vote. They also run for political office and serve in many parliaments. A woman has been a head of state or vice president in Iran, Pakistan, Turkey, Indonesia and Bangladesh.

Saudi women own 70% of the savings in Saudi banks and own 61% of private firms in the Kingdom; they own much of the real estate in Riyadh and Jeddah, and can own and manage their own businesses, but they are sexually segregated, restricted to "appropriate" professions and cannot drive a car.

In nearby Kuwait, women freely function in society and hold responsible positions in many areas, but until only a few years ago they could not vote.

In Afghanistan and in some areas of Pakistan, the Taliban in the name of Islam, has forced professional women to give up their jobs and prohibited girls from attending school.

In Iran, where women must cover their hair and wear long-sleeved, ankle-length outfits in public, they constitute the majority of university students, hold many professional positions, and serve in parliament. A woman is Vice President in this Islamic Republic.
In modern-day Egypt women could not until recently serve as judges, but in Morocco more than 20% of judges are women.

Both the causes of women's lack of empowerment and inequality and the winds of change can be seen in women's basic literacy and education. In Yemen women's literacy is only 28% vs. 70% for men; in Pakistan, it is 28% vs. 53% for men. Percentages of women pursuing post-secondary educations dip as low as 8% and 13% in Morocco and Pakistan respectively (comparable to 3.7% in Brazil, or 11% in the Czech Republic).
In sharp contrast, women's literacy rates in Iran and Saudi Arabia are 70% and as high as 85% in Jordan and Malaysia. In education, significant percentages of women in Iran (52%), Egypt (34%), Saudi Arabia (32%), and Lebanon (37%) have post-secondary educations. In the UAE, as in Iran, the majority of university students are women.
The status and roles of women in society today vary considerably across the Muslim world. The growing empowerment of women is reflected in increased educational and professional opportunities (physicians, journalists, lawyers, engineers, social workers, university professors, and entrepreneurs), legal reforms and voting rights. In many Muslim countries and communities, women lead and participate in Quran study groups, run mosque-based educational and social services, and are religious scholars and even muftis.
 
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This debate will get stuck at 'holy laws '. Nobody can modify islamic laws so no point in debating.
strange thing is that from saudi to turky they all follow same book but different interpretations.
 
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This debate will get stuck at 'holy laws '. Nobody can modify islamic laws so no point in debating.
strange thing is that from saudi to turky they all follow same book but different interpretations.
Their is nothing needed to amend....

Amendment is needed where religious laws say "Burn the women with her husband"
 
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This debate will get stuck at 'holy laws '. Nobody can modify islamic laws so no point in debating.
strange thing is that from saudi to turky they all follow same book but different interpretations.

Nobody can modify your bhagwat gita too so now just STFU and read before your speak.



"In sharp contrast, women's literacy rates in Iran and Saudi Arabia are 70% and as high as 85% in Jordan and Malaysia. In education, significant percentages of women in Iran (52%), Egypt (34%), Saudi Arabia (32%), and Lebanon (37%) have post-secondary educations. In the UAE, as in Iran, the majority of university students are women.
The status and roles of women in society today vary considerably across the Muslim world. "


"The growing empowerment of women is reflected in increased educational and professional opportunities (physicians, journalists, lawyers, engineers, social workers, university professors, and entrepreneurs), legal reforms and voting rights. In many Muslim countries and communities, women lead and participate in Quran study groups, run mosque-based educational and social services, and are religious scholars and even muftis. "
 
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It's all due to jahalat and radical wahabism.
 
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This debate will get stuck at 'holy laws '. Nobody can modify islamic laws so no point in debating.
strange thing is that from saudi to turky they all follow same book but different interpretations.

I think you did'nt read the article.

It is the parorchial attitudes that are beind the problem not religion.

Just look at India. Our *** ratio is unhealthy, female education at all levels is way behind the males.

But in some of the most conservative muslim countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran, more females are educated even at university level than males.
 
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This debate will get stuck at 'holy laws '. Nobody can modify islamic laws so no point in debating.
strange thing is that from saudi to turky they all follow same book but different interpretations.

I agree some holy laws says women should not get married once they are divorced.
There are even laws to burn the widows once their husband dies.
A women which give birth to a girl child is out casted.
But those are hindu laws no body can modify them.....

BTW... the stats about Pakistan are not correct.... and is false news.
 
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It's all due to jahalat and radical wahabism.

The female faces discrimination in all male dominated societies. Even in western business world women face "glass ceiling" and are not promoted to senior positions. There is lot of socializing after work and in most cases women coworkers are not invited. In Muslim countries women are segregated and may have to wear hijab/niqab and conservative clothes in most cases. They are expected to be obedient daughters/wife/mothers. But we do not have female foeticide in Muslim countries where the "problem" is "solved" before it arises as in India. The Muslim women have rights to life denied to many in India.
 
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In sharp contrast, women's literacy rates in Iran and Saudi Arabia are 70% and as high as 85% in Jordan and Malaysia. In education, significant percentages of women in Iran (52%), Egypt (34%), Saudi Arabia (32%), and Lebanon (37%) have post-secondary educations. In the UAE, as in Iran, the majority of university students are women.
The status and roles of women in society today vary considerably across the Muslim world.

The growing empowerment of women is reflected in increased educational and professional opportunities (physicians, journalists, lawyers, engineers, social workers, university professors, and entrepreneurs), legal reforms and voting rights. In many Muslim countries and communities, women lead and participate in Quran study groups, run mosque-based educational and social services, and are religious scholars and even muftis.

The rising literacy of Muslim will result in profound changes in Muslim societies. The democracy will flourish and the American puppet tinpot dictators in Arab countries will fall like house or cards.
 
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Nobody can modify your bhagwat gita too so now just STFU and read before your speak.



"In sharp contrast, women's literacy rates in Iran and Saudi Arabia are 70% and as high as 85% in Jordan and Malaysia. In education, significant percentages of women in Iran (52%), Egypt (34%), Saudi Arabia (32%), and Lebanon (37%) have post-secondary educations. In the UAE, as in Iran, the majority of university students are women.
The status and roles of women in society today vary considerably across the Muslim world. "


"The growing empowerment of women is reflected in increased educational and professional opportunities (physicians, journalists, lawyers, engineers, social workers, university professors, and entrepreneurs), legal reforms and voting rights. In many Muslim countries and communities, women lead and participate in Quran study groups, run mosque-based educational and social services, and are religious scholars and even muftis. "

In saudi women can't drive or vote..? And it must be according to quran ? They wont even debate on this because it is forbidden and nobody can question it.
Even if you you cannot modify gita, hinduism is evolving with time(except a few).. And it is not forced on any body.but with islam the problem is when you put religious law in to state and then tell the world that it cannot be modified or you say (in a secular country)i want to marry two girls because it is allowed in islam. Thats where i say be it any religion when it stands still and pull world away from humanity and ethics that religion will get a bad name ultimatly will get rejected by people.religion should not be sudden brake it should be a steering for betterment of human life,progress,morals, and tolerance.
 
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I agree some holy laws says women should not get married once they are divorced.
There are even laws to burn the widows once their husband dies.
A women which give birth to a girl child is out casted.
But those are hindu laws no body can modify them.....

BTW... the stats about Pakistan are not correct.... and is false news.

IMHO...they r not Hindu laws they are societal laws practiced by various sections in the societies in the sub continent..and FYI they r changeable and has nothing to do with Gita which do no prescribe any...they have nothing to do with religion but due to illiteracy.....we are changing with times:sniper:
 
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IMHO...they r not Hindu laws they are societal laws practiced by various sections in the societies in the sub continent..and FYI they r changeable and has nothing to do with Gita which do no prescribe any...they have nothing to do with religion but due to illiteracy.....we are changing with times:sniper:

their are no Muslim laws either, which deny women any right.
Infect... Islam says not getting educated is a sin and categorically say education is must for all men and women alike.
Rights towards society are fundamental to get into the circle of Islam.
 
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i think the answer is in your question itself!! key : 'muslim countries'.
 
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In saudi women can't drive or vote..? And it must be according to quran ?

No its according to the same kind of idiots who ban hindu women from visiting some temples in India when they are preg. its according to same kind of idiots who are practicing incest in Haryana and impose gotra system on all which is against basic rights of human.




They wont even debate on this because it is forbidden and nobody can question it.


Please feel free to debate it and prove that its forbidden by quran not to drive. If you can prove that then do so otherwise i consider you an ignorant troll of high level.


Even if you you cannot modify gita, hinduism is evolving with time(except a few).. And it is not forced on any body.


I can bring 101 practices of Hinduism forced upon people. So better dont post BS



but with islam the problem is when you put religious law in to state and then tell the world that it cannot be modified or you say (in a secular country)i want to marry two girls because it is allowed in islam. Thats where i say be it any religion when it stands still and pull world away from humanity and ethics that religion will get a bad name ultimatly will get rejected by people.religion should not be sudden brake it should be a steering for betterment of human life,progress,morals, and tolerance.


Islam gives you choice if you wana be a Muslim you have to follow the basics if not then you are free to leave.

As far as having two wives or four wives in Islam then its far better than sharing one wife by two hindu brothers in India.

Above all you need to read some of your religious past and see how many wives your god krishna had. The history has it, it runs into thousands
 
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In saudi women can't drive or vote..?

This problem in limited to Saudi Arabia. My mother use to drive her car in 1970s in Pakistan and still drives in Canada. The Muslim women drive in other countries and we cannot take Saudi Arabia situation as a example for all Muslim women of the world.
 
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