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Why does Muslim world get beaten up by the west?

"Your paid kinks and motherlands. Your funded gung hu jihadis"???

What is that???

"Refuse to adapt to modern civilization and society and get rid of all old bad traditions. "

Agreed. Just like liberal Jews don't kill their orthodox brothers...

We CANNOT kill ours. Just like you try to incorporate them in the mainstream. We want to do the same!

Who is stopping?

Your paid kinks and motherlands. Your funded gung hu jihadis.
 
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  • xxx This is not the time for Ulama to do duaa but this is the time for the Ulama to come forward and do something in practical to end the oppression towards Muslim Ummah. We need our scholars to speak up, to stand up and step forward in order to end this injustice, oppression and bloodshed. Enough is enough, duaas without any action is useless, let one do duaa while sitting in the comfort of his home and see if Allah ( swt ) provides him food? We need to do action with duaa.
 
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Your leaders are only as pathetic as your people, not more.
 
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I think a bit more.

No, it could only be less. Your leaders and your leaders for a reason, the day you fix up, leaders won't remain the way they are, great nations are best built from the bottom up.
 
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No, it could only be less. Your leaders and your leaders for a reason, the day you fix up, leaders won't remain the way they are, great nations are best built from the bottom up.

We dont want them to change. We want them in the jail. That includes the motherlands too.

Too hard to keep distance from lust.
 
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You want the most simple and immediate answer? It is because muslims are weak and unprepared. If they weren't we wouldn't be having this conversation.

You want to know why the targetting of muslim nations despite other weaker nations being present as well?

Watch this video posted by TerminalX and everything will make sense if you're smart:

TXDRBX-002: Religious influence on US policy for Muslims | Terminal X
 
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We dont want them to change. We want them in the jail. That includes the motherlands too.

Yeah? Sounds interesting, I wonder if your views on this are different from the usual I hear from many revolutionary Pakistanis.

How do you plan on doing that? And what do you plan on after that?
 
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Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuehrer!

/Been there/Done that.
Guess the Results. You won't like it.

Could keep your dirty Avatar in that case, just paint it green.

What do you mean "Been there, done that?"

I couldn't understand that..

What are you trying to get at?
 
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The biggest problem is unity!

Muslims all over find reasons to fight - be it sects = Shia/ Sunni

or schools of thought: Deobandi/ Brailvi

Be it ethinicity : Pakhtoon / Punjabi/ Sindhi/ Mohajir

Be it Nationalist: Turks/ Arabs / Persian


We see everything EXCEPT 1 banner = Islam

We see everything wrong with another except that we pray and should fear 1 god

Basically everything wrong with us is our refusal to unite!

United we stand divided we fall....is something unheard of by Muslim leaders coz all they indulge is in their greed coz if they unite, there will be 1 ruler and not everyone will hold the status they have now! Due to self interest they rather get a few thousand killed than have 1 common ruler!



Modern day Islam does not allow unity.

100s of factors that I can't go into.

The sooner we realize the sooner we all will start living in the real world of 2014.

This is more or less a generalisation. History is replete with examples where less civilised societies were able to defeat far more superior civilisations. For example:
  • Mongols beat the Persians and the Caliphate of Baghdad and then the captured China.

  • Germanic tribes defeated the Western Roman Empire.

  • Arabs defeated Persians and Eastern Roman Empire, superpowers of their times.
One thing that has persistently been present in all the major conqueror societies of the past is the pooling of the resources, human and material, to create a Pax-Romana, Pax-Brittania, Pax-Americana and Pax-Islamica (Dar-us-Salam and Dar-ul-Harb). All these societies pooled the knowledge base and the human capital to advance their aims.

On the contrary, the societies which were fragmented (religiously, socially, ethnically), decadent and indifferent (to the needs of their citizens, to the challenges of the age – scientific, social, economic, etc.) are most likely to fall.

America's strength is it's strong bond of nationalism that is supra-ethnic and supra-religious. Pooling of human and material capital has brought best minds of the world to its doors.

Same could be said about any large power in the past, an economic power presented economic opportunities (like the land of opportunity today) and people were attracted to it. The people who went were already those who were risk-takers and people who had mental prowess or the capital to spend. Once, a nucleus was formed, it automatically expanded with all the input coming from the outside. All that was needed was: Effective Management (Governance). Another example is mini-superpower of Singapore.

One problem that was present with most of the superpower of the past and present is that they are all predatory in nature. Just like nature they also abhor a power vacuum and seek to fill it. This way they expand their outreach, but sometimes become victim to expansion; a commonly quoted example is Soviet Union. It is this predatory nature of superpowers – for the sake of power, territory or resources – is that does not allow other people to reach their level.

Now, instead of expanding further, I would just say a couple of things about the world today: It's Malthusian. There are a finite resources for which there is an expanding global population is competing. The best small essay written by a Malthusian – Jared Mason Diamond - about that can be accessed here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/02/opinion/02diamond.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Being a Muslim, I agree with @Akhelios, Our Achilles heel is UNITY i.e. not pooling the resources of the Ummah.

And hold firmly to the rope of Allah all together and do not become divided. And remember the favor of Allah upon you - when you were enemies and He brought your hearts together and you became, by His favor, brothers. And you were on the edge of a pit of the Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you may be guided. (3:103)

hahahah

So are you saying those Germanic tribes are the same as MODERN DAY GERMANY?

hahahah. Oh Bholay badshaho, meray bhai, meray piyaray

your answers are outdated and thus not 100% applicable.

the world has been changing really fast in the last 400 years.

The sooner we all realize this, the sooner we''l start living in 2014 instead of living in Mongol period.


Thank you
 
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Because Muslims are brainwashed and kept like slaves by their own clergy, political leaders and dictators. These three group of people in Islamic world are sold out and do not want to see Muslims advance in science, education and economics. Better education=these fake Sultans, shiekhs and Generals will fall like dominos.
 
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The problem of the Muslim world is that it sits atop of alot of resources.Some see it as a gift but it's more of a curse because it atracts the greedy and the ones who actually need them.
 
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