Why do Pakistanis hate/love India and vice versa

[aksingh]

Guys free for all Dil ki baat bolon aur koi gilla shikwa mat rakho!!!
Fire away

 

[EagleEyes]

1# Kashmir
2# Dont hate us.
3# Consider us a friendly nation.

Then we will have all love for your nation too.

 

[PakistaniPatriot]

Because the stupid governments of our countries hate each other over small things. The people of each country act normal. During the earthquake India offered help but Pakistani government did not take it. During the Tsunami, Pakistani people gave attay ki boriyan, and blanket etc. The people are fine. I'm in usa and in our school there a lot of Indians. I am the only Pakistani boy and there are 2 girls from Pakistan. Every Indian talks to normally.

 

[anand]

Electronic media is playing constructive role in eliminating hatred. Interestingly, I've seen many people hating Pakistan but not Pakistanis, strange.

 

[EagleEyes]

Pakistan is a peace loving country, and would like to have good relationship with all the countries in the world. But when it comes to hating Pakistan, you will recieve the gift in return twice as big.

 

[Awesome]

There are no reasons for hate for me, it's just all adversarial which would end with the resolution of the Kashmir issue.

Love? The people. Have some great Indian friends.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Pakistan is a peace loving country, and would like to have good relationship with all the countries in the world.

But when it comes to hating Pakistan, you will recieve the gift in return twice as big.

Please do not joke!

Most Indians, and more so with the CBM, no longer hate Pakistan!

See our Music programmes like Indian Idol and Sa re g ama. Lots of Pakistanis out there and being voted even though some are not good enough.

There is also a Chinese singing Indian songs and going all guns blazing!

 

[Contrarian]

I didnt know he was Chinese. I thought he was a Chinese Indian, you know the kind. He has always lived in India though.

 

[Awesome]

Speaking of Indian Idol, Sonu Nigam blasted the Indian voters off for repeatedly putting Pakistanis into the bottom group. He was of the opinion that they were better than others who qualified...

Abhijeet on Star Voice of India stopped one of the Indian singers from singing Atif Aslam songs. Abhijeet has gone on record to hate on Pakistani artists crossing the border. I saw that one and was shocked.

Trivial matters though.

Pakistanis though have been top performers on the Indian laughter challenge though.

 

[aksingh]

I personally hate all the radical people and ultrahypocrites(;-)) whether they be Indians, Arabs or Pakistanis or Hindus, muslims or sikhs...

I don't know why Kashmir is such a monstrous issue in Pakistan unlike India???

PS:After all before Pakistan what did the Pakistanis think of themselves??

 

[aksingh]

Speaking of Indian Idol, Sonu Nigam blasted the Indian voters off for repeatedly putting Pakistanis into the bottom group. He was of the opinion that they were better than others who qualified...

Abhijeet on Star Voice of India stopped one of the Indian singers from singing Atif Aslam songs. Abhijeet has gone on record to hate on Pakistani artists crossing the border. I saw that one and was shocked.

Trivial matters though.

Pakistanis though have been top performers on the Indian laughter challenge though.

Anyways Abhijeet is insecure and quite rightly so since not only Pakistani but other Indians are encroaching upon their livelihood....

Sonu NIgams actions are more aligned with the Indian Philosophy..
I agree about the laughter challenge and the comedy champions...

atif aslam, junoon, adnan sami etc are popular and respected in India..

Indians have never hated Pakistanis only Ultra radical Pakistanis... anyways...
keep on

 

[aksingh]

1# Kashmir
2# Dont hate us.
3# Consider us a friendly nation.

Then we will have all love for your nation too.

FOR KASHMIR SIR I REQUEST YOU TO READ NON INDIAN AND NON PAKISTANI MEDIA SOURCES FIRST..

INSTRUMENT OF ASCENSION
SHEIKH ABDULLAH'S SPEECH TO SECURITY COUNCIL
UNCIP RESOLUTIONS
SIMLA AGREEMENT
KASHMIR ACCORD
ARTILE 370 OF THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION

THEN SECOND AND EXPECT THE FACT THAT
IF YOU WERE BORN IN INDIA --> YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF KASHMIR AS INDIAN
IF YOU WERE BORN IN PAKISTAN --> YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGH OF KASHMIR AS PAKISTANI
IF YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN BORN IN KASHMIR
1) A) IN NORTHERN AREAS SUNNI --> KASHMIR IS PAKISTAN
B) IN NA SHIA/BAKERWAL --> KASHMIR SHOULD BE INDEPENDENT
2) AZAD KASHMIR --> KASHMIR IS PAKISTANI
3) JAMMU REGION --> KASHMIR IS INDIAN
4) LADAKH REGION --> KASHMIR IS INDIAN
5) A) KASHMIR VALLEY HINDU/SIKH --> KASHMIR IS INDIAN
B) KASHMIR VALLEY SHIA --> KASHMIR SHOULD BE WITH INDIA OR INDEPENDENT
C) KASHMIR VALLEY SUNNI --> KASHMIR SHOULD BE INDEPENDENT
6) AKSAI CHIN --> KASHMIR IS INDIAN...

LET ME GIVE YOU A FEW FACTS THAT I BELIEVE, FACTS WHICH I DO NOT EXPECT YOU TO ACKNOWLEDGE PUBLICLY SINCE THIS YOUR FORUM AND CAN BE QUITE BAD TO YOUR AND THE FORUMS REPUTATION IF ANY PAKISTANI WERE TO ACKNOWLEDGE;-) (language can be edited if felt by your need to do so ;-))

1. J&K is a multi-ethnic, multi-religious state with 64% Muslims, 33% Hindus, and 3% Buddhists, Sikhs, Christians and others.

2. 3 distinct geographical regions
Ladakh 58% of the area 3% of the population
Jammu 26% area, 45% population
Kashmir 16% area, 52% population
90 % of the region's minorities, i.e. 3% of the state's total population have been driven out...
(SEE EXODUS OF KASHMIRI PANDITS)

3.The primary languages of
Ladakh are Ladakhi and Balti,
Jammu: Dogri,
Kashmir: Kashmiri.
In addition, Gujari, Pahari, Punjabi, Shina and various dialects and mixed languages are also spoken by different ethnic groups within the state.

4. 15% of the state's Muslims live in the provinces of Jammu and Ladakh . They are non-Kashmiris, and by and large, they stand behind J&K's association with India. There are a few small exceptions in some towns of Doda district.

5. Of the state's 49% muslims who reside in the Kashmir province, about 13% are Shia Muslims. Shia Muslims do not wish to have anything to do with Sunni-dominated Pakistan, knowing full well the fate that awaits them there.

6.This is especially true of the Shias of Kargil who know of the poverty and degradation experienced by their ethnic siblings in Baltistan, a part of Pakistan occupied Kashmir referred to as the "Northern Areas".

7.14%-15% of the people in Kashmir province are the pastoral nomadic Gujjar and Bakerwal. They are strong supporters of association with India and have demonstrated this by organizing Militancy Mukhalif Morcha to assist the Indian security forces in surveillance of terrorist activity.

8.As far as non-Muslim groups are concerned there is no reason for them not to go with the multi-religious and secular India.

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The support for secession in Jammu & Kashmir is thus largely limited to the non-pastoral Sunni Muslim population of the Kashmir Valley who constitute 22% of the state's population, (or about 1.9 million people). This segment of the population dominates the politics of the state. The reason that many believe separatism to be a widespread sentiment in J&K is because this dominant section has succeeded in completely drowning out all other voices in the state, and has the ability to cripple the normal functioning of the society in Kashmir province; either by inaction or insufficient action against Pakistani infiltration and terror or, worst still, by sabotage. It is this section of the state's population that receives all the attention, understandably so from Pakistan and the imperialist nations, but also from the Indian press.

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Since the concept of self-determination must be applied to each of Jammu & Kashmir's unique population groups, there can be no equation of self-determination with secession. If, however, the undivided state (including the Pakistan occupied regions of Kashmir which Pakistan refers to s "Azad" Kashmir & "Northern Areas") were to have a referendum under truly neutral supervision, and the people were given three options - join India, join Pakistan or be independent -- the results might be shocking to votaries of secession. The majority could very well go with India, because the separatists will split the vote between pro-Pakistan and pro-independence groups.


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If the people of the state are given only two choices - join India or join Pakistan - the majority vote could still go in India's favor.

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Of the 12.8 million people in the undivided state (1999 estimates, see also Note below), J&K's population is 8.5 million, "Azad" Kashmir's is 2.8 million and "Northern Areas" is 1.5 million.
If 1.9 million from J&K and all of "Azad" Kashmir and "Northern Areas" vote for Pakistan, it still gives India a vote of 6.6 million and leaves Pakistan with 6.2 million!

*speculative
Even if provision were made in this analysis for erosion of support for India as a result of the current turmoil, and some sprinkling of support for Pakistan from other Muslim groups in the state, the results of the referendum would be too close to call.

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In reality, the vote for Pakistan could be much less for the following two reasons:-
Since 1948, the Sunni population of the Valley (22% of the state's population), has dominated the legislative, political and administrative structures in the state of J&K. Kashmir province receives more weightage in the Assembly elections than does Jammu province. Based on the size of it's population Kashmir province should send 44 members to the Legislative Assembly but sends 46. Jammu province, on the other hand, should elect 39 but is allowed only 37! The government ministries and administrative bodies have also been dominated by Kashmiri speaking Valley Sunnis.

*Speculative
It is also likely that a significant percentage of the people of the "Northern Areas" could vote for India. The population in this region is very hostile to Pakistan because of the total neglect of this area. Literacy in the "Northern Areas" is 7% compared to J&K's 59%. Since 1947, there has been little improvement in the infrastructure - schools, hospitals, paved roads, electric power and piped drinking water - are practically non-existent! The inhabitants have no constitutional rights and are still ruled by the frontier laws inherited from the British times. There have also been reports of serf-like treatment of the poor peasants by some of the region's former monarchs. Since the population of the eastern part of "Northern Areas" is Balti speaking Shia Muslim they could very well decide to join their siblings in Kargil area and vote for India.

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It should be noted that the people of Kargil and Ladakh are the most enthusiastic participants in Indian elections, and voter turnout at 70-80% has routinely exceeded the national average


If you want Sir I'll post only pakistani or international reputed organisations links for your personal consideration if you believe that all Indian websites are propagand. I can also recommend some books if you would so need. It is not my endeavor to defeat or insult you...but to make you realize that there are 2 sides to the coin but in case of Kashmir there are a lot many sides...

May you let the govt and Kashmiri people decide what they want after all it is there prerogative...

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Speaking of Indian Idol, Sonu Nigam blasted the Indian voters off for repeatedly putting Pakistanis into the bottom group. He was of the opinion that they were better than others who qualified...

Abhijeet on Star Voice of India stopped one of the Indian singers from singing Atif Aslam songs. Abhijeet has gone on record to hate on Pakistani artists crossing the border. I saw that one and was shocked.

Trivial matters though.

Pakistanis though have been top performers on the Indian laughter challenge though.

Abhijit is a punk. I hate him, forget about you hating him!

I look at the bigger picture - that Pakistanis are being invited to participate and the Indian audience appreciating them.

 

[aksingh]

!!hahaha you fought against us for independence hahahaha!!

Anyways..

 

[thunder786]

no matter what other are saying i simply know that i hate them.