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Why China, India Clash

By Rajeswari Pillai Rajagopalan

March 9, 2012

India-China relations are often seen through the prism of their bilateral disputes. Indeed, the border dispute between the two is generally seen as the biggest hurdle to improving ties. But it could be argued that disagreements such as that over the border in Arunachal Pradesh are only a symptom of the larger problem that exists between these two Asian giants, namely the inevitable and increasing competition between two rising powers.

While the simultaneous rise of powers need not always result in a clash, the four major powers in Asia – established powers Russia and Japan, and newly rising China and India – have had troubled historical relations, contributing to deep-rooted mistrust and mutual suspicion. With the exception of India-Russia and India-Japan relations, the baggage of history is weighing on almost all bilateral relations. It may be true that this century will be an “Asian century,” but it can’t be said with certainty that it’s going to be a stable and peaceful one.

India and China have certainly gone through their share of ups and downs in their relations over the last six decades. Currently, their relations are probably on an upward curve, but one based on trade and raw economics. And while their bilateral trade has climbed to $60 billion, there has been a simultaneous rise in tensions. Improved economic relations don’t necessarily mean better ties overall, as has been demonstrated with U.S.-China relations, as well as those between Japan and China and Taiwan and the mainland.

So, if improved trade ties haven’t resulted in better political and strategic relations, what are the key issues that are holding the two back? Historically, it used to be the border issue, China’s relationship with Pakistan and the rest of South Asia in general, and China’s policy on Jammu and Kashmir specifically. But over the past decade, the emerging Asian strategic framework and the global role for each of these rising powers has been an important factor.

Sadly, this is only likely to get worse. As India’s influence increases within Asia and beyond, there are bound to be problems between Beijing and New Delhi as the two are seen competing for influence and resources. For instance, China is increasingly wary of India’s closer engagement with Japan, South Korea and some Southeast Asian countries. The Chinese leadership appears equally wary of India’s “Look East” Policy as it seems to believe that this will dilute Chinese influence in the region. India has improved its trade ties with Japan, South Korea and ASEAN countries, and there appears to be an increasingly strategic component to relations.

On the other hand, India has remained concerned about China’s ever-growing reach into South Asia, particularly in Pakistan. Of all the South Asian countries, it is Islamabad that most closely shares China’s strategic interests, and their interests vis a vis India have been crucial in cementing relations between the two. For Pakistan, Kashmir is an unfinished item on the agenda of the partition of the subcontinent. India’s sensitivity over Kashmir is matched by China’s worries about Tibet. China believes that New Delhi has ulterior motives regarding Tibet, and the very fact that the Dalai Lama and as many as 150,000 Tibetan refugees live in India continues to irk Beijing. For a country that’s actively engaged in image building as a responsible power, the shortcomings of China’s ethnic policy isn’t something China likes to be reminded about.

Complicating India’s relations with China was the fact that the George W. Bush administration saw a greater role for India and Japan in the emerging Asian strategic framework. The U.S.-India Nuclear Deal in 2005 furthered China’s anxieties, and the fact that the United States took the lead in altering the global rules so that India could engage in international nuclear commerce wasn’t well received by Beijing.

Ultimately, it’s India’s increasing role and influence that’s the crux of the issue. Although India and China both acknowledge the role of the other in the emerging Asian strategic order, they have different conceptions over how this will all pan out. India has continued to adopt an accommodative and inclusive approach in shaping this new architecture, while China has followed an exclusivist approach that appears to be directed against India, Japan and the United States.

Beijing has argued that its rise is peaceful, but as China’s military and economic strength grows, India may not be prepared to see an Asian order dominated by any single power. Given such trends, it’s likely that competition for influence between these new powers will be a significant feature of the Asian century.
Why China, India Clash | Flashpoints
 
The growth of India is necessary for Asia, it is not to lead to conflict, but to make the balance of powers, to help establish peace for the entire area.
No one expect any conflicts in Asia. We has suffered many disadvantages from the last century, now it is the peace to Asian growth...
 
Multiple powers rising in the same geographic region

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Europe before WW1.
 
india couldn't even save itself from a spanking in 1962, how can it save Vietnam from another spanking by China in the South China Sea (just like the 1988 spanking)?
1962 was more than 4 decades ago mate do you mean history repeats itself.
How would you like it if i say the Japanese will Invade and conquer half of China just like in 1930's or the Mongols will invade and decimate China just like in 11th century.
I advice you dear to give better reasoning than the one you gave.
 
Multiple powers rising in the same geographic region

=

Europe before WW1.

No.

Atleast the end will be more like how the cold war ended... mainly because nukes are involved.

Unfortunately for you, china looks too close to the erstwhile soviet union in many ways. :laugh:

And, I am not being biased. Try to think over in an unbiased fashion.
 
Multiple powers rising in the same geographic region

=

Europe before WW1.
I disagree early 20th century was different era people had different mentality. World War 1 was fought by european power to promote their Colonialism and world war 2 ended european Colonialism.
The world order has changed to great extent and the presense nuclear weapon have only decreased the possibility of a major war. Two nuclear power never went to war with each other even during height of cold war.
 
india couldn't even save itself from a spanking in 1962, how can it save Vietnam from another spanking by China in the South China Sea (just like the 1988 spanking)?

Well you were so conceited in 1962 that your Red soldiers got spanked in a day running back like 2 year olds to chairman Lmao 4 5 years after the "oh my goodness 1962 what a war". :lol:

Despite the world's second largest economy and world class infrastructure and what not with an authoritarian government you cannot control your internal troubles... what will you fight with anyone external? :lol:

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1962 was more than 4 decades ago mate do you mean history repeats itself.
How would you like it if i say the Japanese will Invade and conquer half of China just like in 1930's or the Mongols will invade and decimate China just like in 11th century.
I advice you dear to give better reasoning than the one you gave.

Don't remind them of 67 at our hands and 69 at Russian hands. They will be shot for treason against CCP. :coffee:
 
plz say no to india china threads..Does it bring anything new to us??:hitwall:

Both India and China are large countries in Asia, everyone look at them.

It is not that bad. If you are a movie star, you will have to accept the same thing.
 
India and China will compete and cooperate simultaneously in differing fields.
Most deterrent will be nuclear weapons to go to war, because if any nation is threatened with disintegration, it will make sure destruction of other.

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india couldn't even save itself from a spanking in 1962, how can it save Vietnam from another spanking by China in the South China Sea (just like the 1988 spanking)?

Vietnam did gave bloody nose to you and Japan gave......... Dont forget every nation has ups and downs.

CCP only teaches victorious wars (victory is always questionable) and not defeated ones, I think so.
 
india couldn't even save itself from a spanking in 1962, how can it save Vietnam from another spanking by China in the South China Sea (just like the 1988 spanking)?

Your country have habits of bite other countries when they had no precaution. Now they have the precautions with you. India will spank you if you do it once again. :cheesy:
 
Your country have habits of bite other countries when they had no precaution. Now they have the precautions with you. India will spank you if you do it once again. :cheesy:

Here is what the Indian Armed forces have to say. :D

'India can't match China's military force': Indian Naval Chief - IBN Live

New Delhi: Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Sureesh Mehta has set off a storm by saying India cannot match China military force. Is it a warning from India's military that the government needs to hear?

"In military terms, both conventional and non-conventional, we neither have the capability nor the intention to match China force for force," said Admiral Sureesh Mehta.

For a nuclear-armed military representing the interests of a billion-plus people, the lack of confidence is quite striking. India's military leadership has made a stunning confession that New Delhi doesn't have the stomach for a fight, if push came to shove on the disputed Sino-Indian boundary.

"Whether in terms of GDP, defence spend or any other parameter, the gap between the two is too wide to bridge and is getting wider by the day," he said.

And now, India's GDP growth has fallen even further, down to 6.1%.

So the gap is increasing even faster than they thought it would.
 
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