Why Bangladesh overtook Pakistan

[El Sidd]

What the Author does not recognize is that Myanmar can invade & take control of Bangladesh and all ts wealth in less than weak with China & Pakistan by its side.

On the other hand Pakistan is in the big boys club & even major powers like US have tough time controlling it.

author wants You to submit to Indian Hegemony in the region in return for money.

sell your freedom. get rich

 

[HalfMoon]

Are you on something strong dude?

Myanmar cannot invade BD as it's airforce will be practically useless against BD army in the field, which is armed with both modern manpads and short-range SAMs.

MAF can however bomb some targets in BD as the medium-range SAM batteries are yet to be put in place.

China & Pakistan by its side.

You ignored this completely.

author wants You to submit to Indian Hegemony in the region in return for money.

sell your freedom. get rich

When Pakistan does not even submit to the US why does anyone think that it would do so against a much smaller power like India?

 

[El Sidd]

When Pakistan does not even submit to the US why does anyone think that it would do so against a much smaller power like India?

because Harry Potter movies sell

 

[Death Professor]

What I hear you saying is that none of Mr. Hoodbhoy's statements matter.

Like him so much? have him as a gift from us. The issue is whatever he is spouting has been told again and again by the current government. The issue is when this retard doesn't know the geography is Pakistan and is comparing it with Bangladesh, the issue is ignoring the fact that no other country has that many people to feed while having such a small piece of land(now please don't give me example of Singapore, look at Singapore's population).

His narrative is blame the military, which isn't the case. Sure some personals in military were the cause but blaming it all on army is pointless and retarded. Pakistan was progressing in the 60's and who was in power 'a military general'. Then the bhutto **** up happened, then zia, then thieves came(nawaz+zardari) then mush sat in the lap of US and he signed NRO and released the looters on poor nation(nawaz+zardari) again. The thing is we can also be a ___nation like Bangladesh who sits in the lap of India, but we choose not to. Reason is we have self respect and India has never earned our respect, you won't see a Pakistani girl be traded in other countries to be a sex-slave. If it were up-to Bangladesh they would just give up Kashmir, not only the one's which is under india control but also the Pakistan side Kashmir too. I can bet you if TTP happened in Bangladesh, your army couldn't have achieved peace no matter what.

Finally the issue is, he is painting Bangladesh to be some kind of Utopian country compared to Pakistan, meanwhile ignoring the fact that it has lower GDP per capita compared to Pakistan. It has lower minimum wage compared to Pakistan, ignoring the fact that it's people own less of a land compared to Pakistan. I mean 5.8% growth to 7% or 8% that is all his blabbering. Really pathetic if you ask me. We have the capacity and capability to do much better and no military budget is not the issue. Advice that I would like to give him is have patience, stfu and be an observer for next five years.

 

[UKBengali]

Like him so much? have him as a gift from us. The issue is whatever he is spouting has been told again and again by the current government. The issue is when this retard doesn't know the geography is Pakistan and is comparing it with Bangladesh, the issue is ignoring the fact that no other country has that many people to feed while having such a small piece of land(now please don't give me example of Singapore, look at Singapore's population).

His narrative is blame the military, which isn't the case. Sure some personals in military were the cause but blaming it all on army is pointless and retarded. Pakistan was progressing in the 60's and who was in power 'a military general'. Then the bhutto **** up happened, then zia, then thieves came(nawaz+zardari) then mush sat in the lap of US and he signed NRO and released the looters on poor nation(nawaz+zardari) again. The thing is we can also be a ___nation like Bangladesh who sits in the lap of India, but we choose not to. Reason is we have self respect and India has never earned our respect, you won't see a Pakistani girl be traded in other countries to be a sex-slave. If it were up-to Bangladesh they would just give up Kashmir, not only the one's which is under india control but also the Pakistan side Kashmir too. I can bet you if TTP happened in Bangladesh, your army couldn't have achieved peace no matter what.

Finally the issue is, he is painting Bangladesh to be some kind of Utopian country compared to Pakistan, meanwhile ignoring the fact that it has lower GDP per capita compared to Pakistan. It has lower minimum wage compared to Pakistan, ignoring the fact that it's people own less of a land compared to Pakistan. I mean 5.8% growth to 7% or 8% that is all his blabbering. Really pathetic if you ask me. We have the capacity and capability to do much better and no military budget is not the issue. Advice that I would like to give him is have patience, stfu and be an observer for next five years.

Pakistan "progressing" in 1960s?

Average 3.5% GDP per capita growth(BD did 4.5% per capita last decade and set to be over 6% this decade) and was receiving huge fiscal transfers from BD all decade.

The write knows a LOT more than you do and so I suggest we listen to him.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Pervez Hoodbhoy is known to say Anti-national things.

I would not take him so seriously.

 

[Death Professor]

The write knows a LOT more than you do and so I suggest we listen to him.

take your suggestion and shove it up yours. I advice you not to assume who knows more than me and who doesn't. Because I could say the same, that a retard monkey knows a lot more than a r_d_n bangladeshi.(didn't wanted to be racist, but I was forced)

Average 3.5% GDP per capita growth(BD did 4.5% per capita last decade and set to be over 6% this decade) and was receiving huge fiscal transfers from BD all decade.

So I guess Gdp per capita is now 3000$(nominal) in your opinion. Again I would like you to look at map, and see how big your country is, how many mouths it has to feed. Or may be an article by yahoodboy is making bangladeshi's on this forum delusional?

Pakistan "progressing" in 1960s?

Hard to understand simple statements.

 

[Bilal9]

take your suggestion and shove it up yours. I advice you not to assume who knows more than me and who doesn't. Because I could say the same, that a retard monkey knows a lot more than a r_d_n bangladeshi.(didn't wanted to be racist, but I was forced)



So I guess Gdp per capita is now 3000$(nominal) in your opinion. Again I would like you to look at map, and see how big your country is, how many mouths it has to feed. Or may be an article by yahoodboy is making bangladeshi's on this forum delusional?




Hard to understand simple statements.

Oh how we get triggered.

Calm down - we Bengalis have as much right to be racists as you do (it is not your sole right), however the point is that most of us Bengalis choose not to be (by cultural precept - it is an unacceptable quality in a Bengali). If you consistently don't like what is being said by someone in PDF, just 'ignore' them. Problem solved. No need to break out into a diatribe.

That is the difference between the civilized and the uncivilized (hot headed). Even now - I can tell you that there are tons of things I could characterize as negative between our people and in various places in India/Pakistan, but I understand that people are people everywhere and one should celebrate the differences, not demean people on that basis.

People do not choose where (and in what circumstance) they are born, that is Allah's will. To demean Allah's creation for being born somewhere else and in some other circumstance (being of a different race and even being a non-Muslim) is un-Islamic.

The lady on the right is a Christian reverend and the one on the left, a Muslimah. Hundreds of people wore a hijab to show solidarity on 'World Hijab Day'.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...headscarves-world-hijab-day-phoenix/97300320/

People will (and have) come to Islam because of love, not hate. Everyone is a potential Muslim, but not going by the spread of hatred in Islam, we see today.

A lot of hate bandied about in Pakistan is perceived (from targeted hatemongers' propaganda readymade for a naive audience) - when I see TV shows from Pakistan, they don't look that different from us. The color spectrum is the same, with some folks a little less brown.
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Surah Al-Hujurat

يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ إِنَّا خَلَقْنَاكُم مِّن ذَكَرٍ وَأُنثَىٰ وَجَعَلْنَاكُمْ شُعُوبًا وَقَبَائِلَ لِتَعَارَفُوا ۚ إِنَّ أَكْرَمَكُمْ عِندَ اللَّهِ أَتْقَاكُمْ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ خَبِيرٌ - 49:13

O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).
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https://artist.twiztedmyrtle.com/podcast/why-do-pakistanis-and-indians-hate-each-other.html

What Hoodbhoy Sahab is saying as a canary in a coalmine should be heeded - I don't see a boatload of personal benefit for him in it. He is certainly aware of economic basics and the points he makes are quite sound. This has been apparent to a lot of us inside and outside of Pakistan (expats) for a while. There are certainly people in Pakistan who are resistant to this change because it affects their feudal position in Pakistani Society.

In this respect - there is no difference between say, Pakistanis 'officially hating on Indians' vs. Hasina making diatribes about ISI and Jamatis. The end-game desired is the same, to be Gaddi-nasheen (staying in power).

Any way - your country, your rules, your people and ultimately, your cross to bear (so to speak). Us outsiders can only say things as well wishers. The changes have to be made by Pakistanis themselves.

None of us want to see Pakistan devolve into chaos, history notwithstanding.

 

[Death Professor]

Oh how we get triggered.

Did I wrote it to you? The guy was giving me a suggestion when it wasn't asked. On top of that he was assuming some thing about me, so I replied him in the due manner.

 

[Bilal9]

Did I wrote it to you? The guy was giving me a suggestion when it wasn't asked. On top of that he was assuming some thing about me, so I replied him in the due manner.

No - I did realize that you responded to him. But I hope you saw my points nonetheless.

 

[American Pakistani]

You have to earn dollars by export. But, you are importing military hardware by paying in dollars instead.

Were you born like this or is it due to reading so many bharti and bangli propagandas?

This writer must be a fifth columnist asking Pakistan to become a domesticated peace-loving country instead of talking machoist jargons. He should be shot dead by Pakistan's militaristic establishment.

The army generals love to exploit the Kashmir issue to buy weapons that fill their own pockets but the general people are blinded by the slogans like, "Larke Leyenge Kashmir".

If a bangli is criticizing something, it must be good. You can keep selling chaddis and lungi and let us import military hardware.

 

[Death Professor]

however the point is that most of us Bengalis choose not to be (by cultural precept - it is an unacceptable quality in a Bengali).

you got to be kidding me. Yahoodbhoy is painting his narrative about Bengali's being more than ok, now you painting the narrative of bengali's being angels. Good for you.

What Hoodbhoy Sahab is saying as a canary in a coalmine should be heeded

Then heed it, who the f is stopping you. For our sake, give him some honorary post and invite him to Bangla. Good riddance.

I don't see a boatload of personal benefit for him in it.

You don't see his narrative na, but we do, there is reason why he is famously known as yahoodbhoy. Maybe you haven't read his previous posts, but he is pretty consistent.

There are certainly people in Pakistan who are resistant to this change because it affects their feudal position in Pakistani Society.

What are you even on about? Change? I guess bengali people really don't know Urdu. What's the slogan for PTI again? 'Tabdeeli aa nahi rahi, tabdeeli aa gye hai'. Yeah I guess Pakistani people don't like change that's why they voted this party in power./s And if you think that people should start hating our own army and that will be the change you so desire, then you are sorely mistaken son. People of Pakistan love Pakistani Army, sure we do hate some of the individuals in the army from time to time but as a whole institution we love our army.

None of us want to see Pakistan devolve into chaos, history notwithstanding.

Yup, Indians and Bangladeshi's don't want Pakistan to fall into chaos. Yup, our best buddies....

 

[Bilal9]

you got to be kidding me. Yahoodbhoy is painting his narrative about Bengali's being more than ok, now you painting the narrative of bengali's being angels. Good for you.



Then heed it, who the f is stopping you. For our sake, give him some honorary post and invite him to Bangla. Good riddance.



You don't see his narrative na, but we do, there is reason why he is famously known as yahoodbhoy. Maybe you haven't read his previous posts, but he is pretty consistent.



What are you even on about? Change? I guess bengali people really don't know Urdu. What's the slogan for PTI again? 'Tabdeeli aa nahi rahi, tabdeeli aa gye hai'. Yeah I guess Pakistani people don't like change that's why they voted this party in power./s And if you think that people should start hating our own army and that will be the change you so desire, then you are sorely mistaken son. People of Pakistan love Pakistani Army, sure we do hate some of the individuals in the army from time to time but as a whole institution we love our army.



Yup, Indians and Bangladeshi's don't want Pakistan to fall into chaos. Yup, our best buddies....

You have a lot of hate and anger in your heart. And you are still under Kool-Aid effect.

In times of distress we should say (like our Prophet SAW), ‘Allahumma rahmataka arju, fala takilni ila nafsi tarfata ‘ain, wa aslah li sha’ni kullahu, la ilaha illa anta (O Allah, I hope for Your mercy, so give me not over to my self even for as little as wink of an eye, and set right all my affairs, there is no god but You).

May Allah grant you peace and set right everything in your life...

Pervez Hoodbhoy is known to say Anti-national things.

I would not take him so seriously.

Instead of automatically branding him 'anti-national' - which is a propagandized shared construct/belief in Pakistan, have a discussion about it. Don't drink the Kool Aid that the people who rule over you have your best interest at heart.

Certainly we in Bangladesh don't. We're putting up with Hasina's ISI obsession and demagoguery because ultimately she does things which ARE bettering our lives. She knows that very well.

If she didn't, people would be out on the streets in the blink of an eye - I assure you.

This is slowly happening in Pakistan too and will happen more and more.

 

[MultaniGuy]

You have a lot of hate and anger in your heart. And you are still under Kool-Aid effect.

In times of distress we should say (like our Prophet SAW), ‘Allahumma rahmataka arju, fala takilni ila nafsi tarfata ‘ain, wa aslah li sha’ni kullahu, la ilaha illa anta (O Allah, I hope for Your mercy, so give me not over to my self even for as little as wink of an eye, and set right all my affairs, there is no god but You).

May Allah grant you peace and set right everything in your life...



Instead of automatically branding him 'anti-national' - which is a propagandized shared construct/belief in Pakistan, have a discussion about it. Don't drink the Kool Aid that the people who rule over you have your best interest at heart.

Certainly we in Bangladesh don't. We're putting up with Hasina's ISI obsession and demagoguery because ultimately she does things which ARE bettering our lives. She knows that very well.

If she didn't, people would be out on the streets in the blink of an eye - I assure you.

This is slowly happening in Pakistan too and will happen more and more.

You don't know Pakistan. So you really cannot comment.

You have a lot of hate and anger in your heart. And you are still under Kool-Aid effect.

In times of distress we should say (like our Prophet SAW), ‘Allahumma rahmataka arju, fala takilni ila nafsi tarfata ‘ain, wa aslah li sha’ni kullahu, la ilaha illa anta (O Allah, I hope for Your mercy, so give me not over to my self even for as little as wink of an eye, and set right all my affairs, there is no god but You).

May Allah grant you peace and set right everything in your life...



Instead of automatically branding him 'anti-national' - which is a propagandized shared construct/belief in Pakistan, have a discussion about it. Don't drink the Kool Aid that the people who rule over you have your best interest at heart.

Certainly we in Bangladesh don't. We're putting up with Hasina's ISI obsession and demagoguery because ultimately she does things which ARE bettering our lives. She knows that very well.

If she didn't, people would be out on the streets in the blink of an eye - I assure you.

This is slowly happening in Pakistan too and will happen more and more.

Pervez Hoodbhoy is known to say liberal crap. Nobody in Pakistan takes him too seriously.

He is just a scientist, that's all.

He is not a Theologian.

 

[Avicenna]

you got to be kidding me. Yahoodbhoy is painting his narrative about Bengali's being more than ok, now you painting the narrative of bengali's being angels. Good for you.



Then heed it, who the f is stopping you. For our sake, give him some honorary post and invite him to Bangla. Good riddance.



You don't see his narrative na, but we do, there is reason why he is famously known as yahoodbhoy. Maybe you haven't read his previous posts, but he is pretty consistent.



What are you even on about? Change? I guess bengali people really don't know Urdu. What's the slogan for PTI again? 'Tabdeeli aa nahi rahi, tabdeeli aa gye hai'. Yeah I guess Pakistani people don't like change that's why they voted this party in power./s And if you think that people should start hating our own army and that will be the change you so desire, then you are sorely mistaken son. People of Pakistan love Pakistani Army, sure we do hate some of the individuals in the army from time to time but as a whole institution we love our army.



Yup, Indians and Bangladeshi's don't want Pakistan to fall into chaos. Yup, our best buddies....

You might wanna calm down.

Also, no one is "forced" to be racist.