Why are the Arabs losing on every front?

[TruthHurtz]

Yes, Arabs are lost and bound to be a hopeless bunch (despite much of the Arab world living better than the vast majority of the world) because some Turk wrote an simplistic and largely inaccurate article on some irrelevant media parroting the same one-sided and inaccurate discourse that we have heard since the Arab Spring began. A one-sided ignorant view that does not correspondent to most statistics that deal with economy, education, living standards, future prognosis, untapped potential etc.

In the real world the Arab world is the cradle of civilization (which it will always be), home to the most ancient civilizations on the planet and some of the most influential by far, most ancient cities etc.

The same Arabs who created 3 of the 11 largest empires in human history (more than any other ethnic group in the top 15) and are some of the most influential people in history. Who ruled the Muslim world and had the largest empires in the world for 800 years. Almost 1 millennia.
Yes, such people are indeed inherently bound to fail, says the average Bangladeshi etc. troll on this thread (who cannot even reach the ankles of Arabs in terms of legacy and influence with all due respect), on some thread on PDF.

OK.

And non-Arabs care because of what exactly? We do not care about your opinion. Stop obsessing about us. We will fail and tomorrow the Arab world and entire landmass of it from Morocco to Oman will vanish into the sea anyway. Then the Arab-obsessed individuals here can rejoice for all we care, because by then, we will all be dead.

Now I will return to the hugely failed GCC. I should move to Uzbekistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka or Indonesia instead. There people face no problems and the societies are flawless as they are in all of the Muslim world, expect the Arab world.

And yes, Arabs and Europeans love to kill each other and others. Now pfuck off Rakeesh 1, 2 and 3.

lol cope

 

[Avicenna]

Off topic. Has anyone watched the movie Syriana?

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

I don't think fragmentation in the Arab World is a bad thing at all. Take a look at how much competition it has bred over the years as a result.

Were it not for fragmentation in the Arab World, there would've been no Dubai -- nor would other cities and states in the region have tried to emulate Dubai's success.

Also, were it not for fragmentation in the Arab World, Tunisia would not have been a successful liberal democracy today.

Fragmentation is not necessarily a bad thing. It breeds competition, which in turn breeds excellence. This is exactly why Europe overtook the rest of the world a couple of centuries ago.

Besides, unity for the sake of unity is not really a good idea.

In any case, regional integration in the form of continental/supranational unions is no longer a unique thing. You can observe this trend almost everywhere around the world these days, thereby rendering this entire argument moot.

 

[Al-Andalus]

lol cope

The truth hurts.

Lol are you aware of current events?

Also a people must play the hand they are dealt with the best way possible. Bangladeshis were dealt their hand by Allah. Let them play it as best possible.

Similarly, my Saudi friend, be ashamed at how you have played your hand.

Nothing that I wrote is factually inaccurate no matter how much you are going to cry about it.

Also what makes you think that I care about your tiny overpopulated and impoverished swamp of a country? I do not. 99,9% of the 450 million Arabs do not. So stop obsessing/worrying about us. I have to tell this to many foreigners. It is a one-sided interest/obsession.

Why the hell should we even remotely care about individuals who are sickly obsessed about us?

 

[Mansoon]

I don't think fragmentation in the Arab World is a bad thing at all. Take a look at how much competition it has bred over the years as a result.

Were it not for fragmentation in the Arab World, there would've been no Dubai -- nor would other cities and states in the region have tried to emulate Dubai's success.

Also, were it not for fragmentation in the Arab World, Tunisia would not have been a successful liberal democracy today.

Fragmentation is not necessarily a bad thing. It breeds competition, which in turn breeds excellence. This is exactly why Europe overtook the rest of the world a couple of centuries ago.

Besides, unity for the sake of unity is not really a good idea.

In any case, regional integration in the form of continental/supranational unions is no longer a unique thing. You can observe this trend almost everywhere around the world these days, thereby rendering this entire argument moot.

It is a bad thing. 300 million Arabs get beaten by 7 million jews.

 

[Avicenna]

Do not buy arguement. Non western people have been subjugated via this "competition"

Are you really gonna sit here and tell me that the existing states of the middle east are in control of their affairs without outside interference.

Geopolitics often remind me of the politics of masjids in the US. The uncles that run these things often put their individual agendas as priority over the actual purpose of the masjid.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

Do not buy arguement. Non western people have been subjugated via this "competition"

Are you really gonna sit here and tell me that the existing states of the middle east are in control of their affairs without outside interference.

Geopolitics often remind me of the politics of masjids in the US. The uncles that run these things often put their individual agendas as priority over the actual purpose of the masjid.

All countries around the world are, to a degree, influenced by others. By the same token, all countries around the world are capable of influencing others.

It doesn't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

 

[TruthHurtz]

The truth hurts.

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[Kuwaiti Girl]

It is a bad thing. 300 million Arabs get beaten by 7 million jews.

Israel is actually a perfect example of why being a large country doesn't matter.

 

[Avicenna]

It does when whole nations lay burning because of it. Look at the countries surrounding Israel. One by one they have been neutralized. And now SA and Iran are buying into this Shia Sunni nonsense. So much so SA/GCC is willing to side with Israel over Iran. And rather than be aware of the facts...we have individuals here being defensive and hurling insults.

No one is really crying over the Arab world. I personally have a fantastic life in the US. However, this concern for my "brothers" is born out of my faith in Allah, the Quran and the words of Prophet Muhammad s.a.w.

 

[Al-Andalus]

It is a bad thing. 300 million Arabs get beaten by 7 million jews.

There are 450 million Arabs of which about 12 million are Palestinians. The Palestinian diaspora outnumbers the Palestinian population in Palestine/Israel. Also the conflict is between Jews and Palestinians, not Jews and Arabs.

Also I don't remember "300 million Arabs" being beaten by Israel (USA/West). I do however recall Egypt, Syria and Jordan losing wars against Israel 40-50 years back. Wars that every Muslim country would have lost against Israel (USA/West). Also some stalemates and some won battles.

The same Jews lived under the mercy of Arabs for 1300 years. So let them have their "success" for a while. If being a tiny state surrounded by hostile nations and hosting a hostile population that makes up 1/5 of your population is considered a success in comparison.

In any case I am indifferent to Jews as a people and Israel. It does not impact my life whatsoever nor does it impact the lives of 97% of all Arabs.

It does when whole nations lay burning because of it. Look at the countries surrounding Israel. One by one they have been neutralized. And now SA and Iran are buying into this Shia Sunni nonsense. So much so SA/GCC is willing to side with Israel over Iran. And rather than be aware of the facts...we have individuals here being defensive and hurling insults.

No one is really crying over the Arab world. I personally have a fantastic life in the US. However, this concern for my "brothers" is born out of my faith in Allah, the Quran and the words of Prophet Muhammad s.a.w.

We are not your brothers. Never been and never will be. We have nothing to do with you. Go suck up to Iranians or somebody else that cares.

In any case I suggest that you worry about your own impoverished, insignificant tiny swamp that you call a country instead of escaping abroad to the US.

Anyway I will repeat myself. Arabs do not care about what some Bangladeshi based in the US thinks of anything related to Arabs. Let alone other foreigners. So I will suggest you to stop "caring" and instead worry about something else as you are wasting your time.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

I don't think fragmentation in the Arab World is a bad thing at all. Take a look at how much competition it has bred over the years as a result.

Were it not for fragmentation in the Arab World, there would've been no Dubai -- nor would other cities and states in the region have tried to emulate Dubai's success.

Also, were it not for fragmentation in the Arab World, Tunisia would not have been a successful liberal democracy today.

Fragmentation is not necessarily a bad thing. It breeds competition, which in turn breeds excellence. This is exactly why Europe overtook the rest of the world a couple of centuries ago.

Besides, unity for the sake of unity is not really a good idea.

In any case, regional integration in the form of continental/supranational unions is no longer a unique thing. You can observe this trend almost everywhere around the world these days, thereby rendering this entire argument moot.

Unity is strength.

You dont need hostile and violent competition to flourish, just a culture of excellence and hard work.

Look at China, fragmentation always lead to weakness. Unity always leads to peace and power.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

It does when whole nations lay burning because of it. Look at the countries surrounding Israel. One by one they have been neutralized. And now SA and Iran are buying into this Shia Sunni nonsense. So much so SA/GCC is willing to side with Israel over Iran. And rather than be aware of the facts...we have individuals here being defensive and hurling insults.

No one is really crying over the Arab world. I personally have a fantastic life in the US. However, this concern for my "brothers" is born out of my faith in Allah, the Quran and the words of Prophet Muhammad s.a.w.

You're wrongly assuming that, if Israel hadn't existed, the Arab World would've been less susceptible to conflict.

That is simply not true.

Countries in the Arabian Peninsula would've always been more wary of a power based in the Iranian Plateau than a power based in the Levant. Also, they would've always been more concerned with a power based in Mesopotamia/Iraq than with a power based in the Eastern Mediterranean region.

This has more to do with geography and less to do with religion and ethnicity. As a case in point, prior to the fall of Saddam, the Gulf states were more frightened of Iraq than they were of Iran.

Even if Israel hadn't existed, these geopolitical realities would continue to exist.

Likewise, the rivalry between powers based in Syria and Egypt would've continued to exist, with or without Israel. In fact, for many decades, both Egyptian and Syrian nationalists believed that Palestine should be an integral part of their homeland.

The point is, this irrational obsession with Israel has to stop. With or without Israel's existence, rivalries in the Arab World will continue to exist.

 

[Avicenna]

There are 450 million Arabs of which about 12 million are Palestinians. The Palestinian diaspora outnumbers the Palestinian population in Palestine/Israel. Also the conflict is between Jews and Palestinians, not Jews and Arabs.

Also I don't remember "300 million Arabs" being beaten by Israel (USA/West). I do however recall Egypt, Syria and Jordan losing wars against Israel 40-50 years back. Wars that every Muslim country would have lost against Israel (USA/West). Also some stalemates and some won battles.

The same Jews lived under the mercy of Arabs for 1300 years. So let them have their "success" for a while. If being a tiny state surrounded by hostile nations and hosting a hostile population that makes up 1/5 of your population is considered a success in comparison.

In any case I am indifferent to Jews as a people and Israel. It does not impact my life whatsoever nor does it impact the lives of 97% of all Arabs.



We are not your brothers. Never been and never will be. We have nothing to do with you. Go suck up to Iranians or somebody else that cares.

In any case I suggest that you worry about your own impoverished, insignificant tiny swamp that you call a country instead of escaping abroad to the US.

Anyway I will repeat myself. Arabs do not care about what some Bangladeshi based in the US thinks of anything related to Arabs. Let alone other foreigners. So I will suggest you to stop "caring" and instead worry about something else as you are wasting your time.

Lol. keep drinking that kool-aid. and enjoy what your hands will reap.

I will keep being concerned for the sake of Allah.

 

[Al-Andalus]

Lol. keep drinking that kool-aid. and enjoy what your hands will reap.

I will keep being concerned for the sake of Allah.

Your empty religious discourse is not going to fool anybody or impress anyone. We Arabs know your likes and similar ones perfectly and their agenda. I will not elaborate on that as I risk getting banned although I won't care but I have better things to do. In any case I suggest to worry about something else. You have more things to worry about.