Why Arabs lost all its wars to Israel despite outnumbering Israel in weapons and manpower?

[Hamza913]

It took 3 Massive armies to put an end to the Aryan race. At least respect the their fighting ability.

Their only weakness was their idiotic leader Hitler.

 

[19887]

LOL what a joke.

Don't say anything if what you have to say is nonsense.

Our nukes can reach Israel, Google it.

Israel will intercept them long before they reach Israel
And then shoot at you a good quantity of Jericho missiles, and no more Pakistan
Having nuclear weapons does not make you a hero

 

[Beny Karachun]

Because I know what I'm talking about and have actual experience.



No. It goes according to the logistical capability you have and the manpower at your disposal at any given time.

Like how you could not conduct major military operations towards Cairo with a single 10km supply line and overstretched forces in between Ismalllia and Suez alone. Ismalia and Suez being two cities you could not take which were being defended by light infantry and SF in addition to popular resistance. A far less daunting task than Cairo.

While in between you and Cairo there's the 4th Armoured Division and Republican Guard Brigades. Not even going to count on the Arab reserves.

Look it's pretty clear you're a fanboy. So I'm just going to leave it here, the 14th to the 18th of October are not the end state of the war 1979 is. If you can't accept my points I'm OK with that.

You having experience doesn't mean you would have won a war that was interrupted if it was not interrupted.

There was way more than one supply line but their lengths were indeed 10km, if you didn't know, the shorter range the supply line is the better. We thought Suez was poorly defended, so we sent two small armored and infantry brigades, we were wrong, our forces were ambushed, but that didn't change anything, the city was completely sealed and no food or water came in or out. Two more days and everyone there would die of dehydration, let alone that the city was encircled by many Israeli forces.
For Ismailia we had two forces, Sharon's brigade and Sasson's brigade, we sent small scout forces from Sharon's brigade, they have managed to kill 50 Egyptian soldiers but 18 of theirs were killed and were forced to retreat, you thought it was some kind of a major battle with hundreds of tanks, but in reality it wasn't bigger than a border skirmish. If the ceasefire didn't exist Sharon and Sasson would have crushed your city from the south and from the east.

Your fourth armored division was made of T-34-85 that were dug in the ground, it performed poorly after the Israelis crossed the Canal following the Battle of the Chinese Farm and the ensuing encirclement of the Third Field Army.
Your Republican Guard was barely 20,000 men strong, it was nothing, all we had to do is get 100 tanks against them and they would be annihilated. Your reserves were untrained with really old equipment with no air support.
In the war you ended up with less territory that you had, you lost more soldiers and vehicles than us, its clear to say that we won.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Israel will intercept them long before they reach Israel
And then shoot at you a good quantity of Jericho missiles, and no more Pakistan
Having nuclear weapons does not make you a hero

So as you candestroy those type of Missiles... can't you think they can too...
One thing if you miss one.. it's over for Israel... while Pakistan can still receive few on her land and still survive... Israel is equal to a very small region of Pakistan...
Have Fun, playing this game...

Pakistan is btw 11-15x bigger than Israel...

 

[Hamza913]

Israel will intercept them long before they reach Israel
And then shoot at you a good quantity of Jericho missiles, and no more Pakistan
Having nuclear weapons does not make you a hero

Hate to burst your bubble but those systems will not intercept those nukes if they were launched. Maybe one or two if Israel is lucky, but it won't be enough.

Pakistan is more than capable of surviving Israel 's puny 80 nuke arsenal. It would be a terrible setback, but we'd pull through.

Israel on the other hand wouldn't be able to take more than a couple of nukes. We can quite literally delete Israel from existence.

But hopefully we can get rid of you without nukes, wouldn't want to risk making the holy lands uninhabitable.

 

[HAIDER]

Why do you think Arab armies despite being united for once, couldn't defeat a tiny country like Israel? Despite arab armies being heavily backed by USSR in Yom Kippur war, couldn't dent Israel??


Arabs had infact superior artillery and equipment, and larger no. of tanks and man power. Still Israel humiliated them???




What's the biggest reason for their defeats in all the wars (Yom Kippur, 6Day war etc.) ?? And even if u say that US backed Israel it gets countered as USSR heavily backed Arabs and provided them with SAM batteries but they still couldn't do sh*t and Arab plans were target practice for the Israeli Mirages.


So, thoughts?? Have the Arabs lost the art of War and became too soft or horrible tactics or what??

Simply jews fought well with better strategy. Major reason they were already battled hardened due to 2nd world war. They fought on all frontiers. Arabs were not capable enough to deal there strategic moves on the ground.
Hitler atrocities was major driving force of determination .

 

[Beny Karachun]

So as you candestroy those type of Missiles... can't you think they can too...
One thing if you miss one.. it's over for Israel... while Pakistan can still receive few on her land and still survive... Israel is equal to a very small region of Pakistan...
Have Fun, playing this game...

Pakistan is btw 11-15x bigger than Israel...

Obviously they cant, Pakistan's longest range air defense system has barely 125km range AGAINST AIRCRAFT, while it cant even shoot down ballistic missiles
While our longest range air defense system is the Arrow 3, with the range of allegedly over 2,400km and can intercept nukes outside of the atmosphere

Except that we wont miss one We have way too many layers to let those nukes get even close to Israel, let alone hit it
One Israeli Jericho 3 with MIRV warheads is just enough

 

[19887]

So as you candestroy those type of Missiles... can't you think they can too...
One thing if you miss one.. it's over for Israel... while Pakistan can still receive few on her land and still survive... Israel is equal to a very small region of Pakistan...
Have Fun, playing this game...

Pakistan is btw 11-15x bigger than Israel...

Why do you think that in such a theoretical case Israel would fire only a few missiles, not 100?
Even in a larger country it is enough to shoot at population centers, there is no need to kill all the people

 

[Hamza913]

Why do you think that in such a theoretical case Israel would fire only a few missiles, not 100?
Even in a larger country it is enough to shoot at population centers, there is no need to kill all the people

Because Israel doesn't have 100 nukes. It has 80.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Why do you think that in such a theoretical case Israel would fire only a few missiles, not 100?
Even in a larger country it is enough to shoot at population centers, there is no need to kill all the people

Look you can fire 100 or 300 at the same time, so be it... same will apply to the other side... so 100 vs 100, with equal Missile def... the results is the same... if Israel MISS ONLY ONE! it's over for her... while PAKISTAN can miss few, almost a dozen and still alive...

THe Q is not how many you will fire... it's how many you will miss...

ANd Israel do not have Hundreds of Jericho only few... Have FUn

 

[Beny Karachun]

Hate to burst your bubble but those systems will not intercept those nukes if they were launched. Maybe one or two if Israel is lucky, but it won't be enough.

Pakistan is more than capable of surviving Israel 's puny 80 nuke arsenal. It would be a terrible setback, but we'd pull through.

Israel on the other hand wouldn't be able to take more than a couple of nukes. We can quite literally delete Israel from existence.

But hopefully we can get rid of you without nukes, wouldn't want to risk making the holy lands uninhabitable.

Yeah as if you can tell how many we can intercept
No one can accurately tell how many nukes Israel have, some say 80 nukes some say 200 some say 400, 5 are enough for Pakistan though.
You cant delete jack shit from the earth, Israel's air defense system has a bigger range than your best ballistic missile

By the way, you don't understand, when you will launch your nukes, we will launch ours, and it would be useless, most of your nukes are on short ranged ballistic missiles, a few of them are on long range ones, and even if you had 500 of them you would still have no way of destroying Israel since each and every one

 

[Hamza913]

Yeah as if you can tell how many we can intercept
No one can accurately tell how many nukes Israel have, some say 80 nukes some say 200 some say 400, 5 are enough for Pakistan though.
You cant delete jack shit from the earth, Israel's air defense system has a bigger range than your best ballistic missile

By the way, you don't understand, when you will launch your nukes, we will launch ours, and it would be useless, most of your nukes are on short ranged ballistic missiles, a few of them are on long range ones, and even if you had 500 of them you would still have no way of destroying Israel since each and every one

The amount of stupidity in this comment is insane.

If you honestly think Israel would survive a nuclear conflict, I think you should do an IQ test.

 

[19887]

Hate to burst your bubble but those systems will not intercept those nukes if they were launched. Maybe one or two if Israel is lucky, but it won't be enough.

Pakistan is more than capable of surviving Israel 's puny 80 nuke arsenal. It would be a terrible setback, but we'd pull through.

Israel on the other hand wouldn't be able to take more than a couple of nukes. We can quite literally delete Israel from existence.

But hopefully we can get rid of you without nukes, wouldn't want to risk making the holy lands uninhabitable.

Why do you think your missiles will pass the Arrow 3 Arrow 2 and David Sling
If Israel is destroyed (as in the past), the Jews will return to Jerusalem and rebuild everything. If Pakistan is destroyed, no one will rebuild it.
In addition, Pakistan will not fire nuclear missiles at Jerusalem, the Jerusalem area has a million Jews, if nuclear missiles hit Israel, the "Palestinians" would die too.
*Israel has more than 80 warheads

 

[HannibalBarca]

Why do you think your missiles will pass the Arrow 3 Arrow 2 and David Sling
If Israel is destroyed (as in the past), the Jews will return to Jerusalem and rebuild everything. If Pakistan is destroyed, no one will rebuild it.
In addition, Pakistan will not fire nuclear missiles at Jerusalem, the Jerusalem area has a million Jews, if nuclear missiles hit Israel, the "Palestinians" would die too.
*Israel has more than 80 warheads

Well same apply to pakistan... if you launch nukes at pakistan..; Iran + China+ India will be mostly touched (radiation and such)... And I don't think they will be happy about it either

 

[19887]

Look you can fire 100 or 300 at the same time, so be it... same will apply to the other side... so 100 vs 100, with equal Missile def... the results is the same... if Israel MISS ONLY ONE! it's over for her... while PAKISTAN can miss few, almost a dozen and still alive...

THe Q is not how many you will fire... it's how many you will miss...

ANd Israel do not have Hundreds of Jericho only few... Have FUn

As I told someone else here, Pakistan will not shoot at Jerusalem,
And Israel has hundreds of Jericho missiles