Why Arabs Lose Wars

[jandk]

The problem with Arabs (and Iranians) is that they tend to avoid self criticism and self reflection. Even the arabs on this forum, tend to take criticism in the wrong spirit. They tend to overestimate themselves and underestimate others. The middle easterners on this forum can be seen patting themselves on the back for relatively minor accomplishments while others are more humble. Unlike the far eastern cultures, Arabs are not big on humility. Maybe it is because they live in monarchies where dissent is illegal.

 

[Ceylal]

Arabs can't win wars, they lost to Indians in Rajastan battle.

They haven't recovered yet? I wonder how this thread escaped Elhassani. He probably would have said that that Arabs were bewitched by the beauty of women that reason they let you win..

 

[500]

Jordan was the reason us Arabs were attacked by Israel in 67, you have no shame you Jordanians are not part of us Arabs.

Without Jordan Israel would take all the West Bank in 1948 and there would be no Palestinians.

simply because there are some "Arabs" traitors, who fly to Israel to tell Golda Meir about Syria and Egypt attack on Israel, do you know who I am talking about?

Israeli army was not mobilized in 1973. 20 Syrian brigades attacked 2 Israeli brigades. Yet they failed and ran away. Only Iraqis and Jordanians saved Assad from total collapse.

 

[Falcon29]

Without Jordan Israel would take all the West Bank in 1948 and there would be no Palestinians.


Israeli army was not mobilized in 1973. 20 Syrian brigades attacked 2 Israeli brigades. Yet they failed and ran away. Only Iraqis
and Jordanians saved Assad from total collapse.

Nobody is needed for Israel to occupy Palestinian land, the creation of Israel in itself includes the occupation as part of what it believes is their state. European Jews are nationalists, they were seeking Palestinian land long before even the Ottoman Empire collapsed.

who the **** wants to be part of Arabs the bedouins or the old ideology of pan Arabism where half of the countries stabbed you in the back for US support ( khaleejis + Jordan ).

The new generation of Egyptians, Lebanese, Iraqis most of them reject Arab identity, most of them prefer their own national identity.

If you don't see that you will contribute to this thread then simply don't post.

 

[500]

Nobody is needed for Israel to occupy Palestinian land, the creation of Israel in itself includes the occupation as part of what it believes is their state. European Jews are nationalists, they were seeking Palestinian land long before even the Ottoman Empire collapsed.

In 1947-1948 war 1.3 million Palestinians failed against 600 K Jews. Then Jordanians came and saved ur butts. Give them little respect.

 

[Falcon29]

The problem with Arabs (and Iranians) is that they tend to avoid self criticism and self reflection. Even the arabs on this forum, tend to take criticism in the wrong spirit. They tend to overestimate themselves and underestimate others. The middle easterners on this forum can be seen patting themselves on the back for relatively minor accomplishments while others are more humble. Unlike the far eastern cultures, Arabs are not big on humility. Maybe it is because they live in monarchies where dissent is illegal.

I am fine with criticism of Arabs, i never lived under a monarchy though so I wouldn't know how it is. The middle easterners on this forum aren't really big on Arab culture, they're largely a minority. If you want to discuss things with the average Arab unfortunately you need to find yourself an Arab forum.

In 1947-1948 war 1.3 million Palestinians failed against 600 K Jews. Then Jordanians came and saved ur butts. Give them little respect.

Before 1948 Jewish terrorists were ethnically cleansing Palestinian villages and Palestinians could not do much in their hand to prevent the Jewish goals put in place long ago. This thread is not about history or your revisionist history, it is related to discussing Arab military strategies and tactics and comparing them to today's. Don't discuss politics here please.

 

[500]

Before 1948 Jewish terrorists were ethnically cleansing Palestinian villages and Palestinians could not do much in their hand to prevent the Jewish goals put in place long ago.

Jews and Palestinians were in similar position. Palestinians had numeral advantage. From nov 1947 to april 1948 Jews were in very bad situation and could easy lose. But then they went to counter offensive which was very successful. And Jews would capture the entire Palestine with ease if Jordanians were not coming for rescue in may 1948.

This thread is not about history or your revisionist history, it is related to discussing Arab military strategies and tactics and comparing them to today's. Don't discuss politics here please.

When Syrian and Palestinian attack Jordanians u should remember they saved u. Jordanians had a small army compare to other Arab armies, but most effective.

 

[Falcon29]

Jews and Palestinians were in similar position. Palestinians had numeral advantage. From nov 1947 to april 1948 Jews were in very bad situation and could easy lose. But then they went to counter offensive which was very successful. And Jews would capture the entire Palestine with ease if Jordanians were not coming for rescue in may 1948.


When Syrian and Palestinian attack Jordanians u should remember they saved u. Jordanians had a small army compare to other Arab armies, but most effective.

We aren't attacking Jordan don't worry, it's the Israeli occupation which is nationalist to the core and wanted to steal Palestinian land one way or another. Now, if you could elaborate on modern Arab militaries that would be nice, lets not discuss politics.

 

[500]

I dont think its correct to say that Arabs lose wars. In Iran-Iraq war for example Iraqi army fought against much larger Iran and Kurds in same time and did it well.

But when it comes to US, Iraqis could not do much in open desert vs overwhelmingly technologically superior country.

 

[KingMamba]

Jews and Palestinians were in similar position. Palestinians had numeral advantage. From nov 1947 to april 1948 Jews were in very bad situation and could easy lose. But then they went to counter offensive which was very successful. And Jews would capture the entire Palestine with ease if Jordanians were not coming for rescue in may 1948.


When Syrian and Palestinian attack Jordanians u should remember they saved u. Jordanians had a small army compare to other Arab armies, but most effective.

That is BS the Palestinians had more people but most were non combatant, same for the Jews they had less people but most were also non combatants. As for combatants Jews had 30,000 strong at the beginning of the war and the Arabs had about the same, by the time Jordan entered Jewish had 100,000 plus soldiers and at the end of the war more than 150K. Also Jews had better arms largely exported from Eastern Europe while Arabs were ill equipped except for the Jordanians who entered late and largely accomplished what they had set out to do which was annex the West Bank.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Jordan was the reason us Arabs were attacked by Israel in 67, you have no shame you Jordanians are not part of us Arabs.

@Syrian Lion , the collaborator is acting up again, I'm really reconsidering whether I should support the Syrian president Assad as of lately....these guys are collaborator garbage....

Palestinians are the basest thing have ever existed. We hosted them in Jordan, they attacked us but they were beaten up and expelled, the same happened to them in Israel, Lebanon, Lydia, Kuwait, Iraq and now Syria. They are garbage, everyone throw them away

 

[Falcon29]

Palestinians are the basest thing have ever existed. We hosted them in Jordan, they attacked us but they were beaten up and expelled, the same happened to them in Israel, Lebanon, Lydia, Kuwait, Iraq and now Syria. They are garbage, everyone throw them away

Khalas relax there is no reason for this, in the end we all love each other and hope for the best for each other. Inshallah all of us regain our honor and dignity and restore our rights.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Khalas relax there is no reason for this, in the end we all love each other and hope for the best for each other. Inshallah all of us regain our honor and dignity and restore our rights.

You have no rights in the state of Israel.

 

[Falcon29]

You have no rights in the state of Israel.

That's great to know.

 

[doritos]

What is Lydia