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Why al-Qaeda finds no recruits in India
By Andrew North
BBC News, Mumbai and Delhi


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Habiba Ismail Khan can't forget the day her eldest son ventured out to get food and water.

Their Mumbai slum had been overcome by communal rioting, sparked by the destruction of the Babri Mosque by Hindu hardliners in faraway Ayodhya.

This week marks the 20th anniversary of that event, one of the biggest tests since independence of India's secular ideals.

After days trapped inside, the sounds and smells of killing around them, he made a dash for supplies.

"He was 18, the only earner," says Habiba. "My heart cries for him every day."

Caught by a Hindu mob he never had a chance.

No headway

He was one of nearly 600 Muslims killed in the Mumbai riots, the bulk of the victims. At least 275 Hindus died too.

But far from being spontaneous, a government commission later concluded much of the violence was an organised pogrom by Hindu extremists.

Two decades later, Muslims remain a marginalised minority - although minority seems the wrong word for a group that numbers nearly 180 million, making India the third largest Muslim nation in the world after Indonesia and next-door Pakistan.

Yet while its neighbour is in constant turmoil because of Islamic extremism, it's striking how little it has emerged in India.


"Fundamentalism has not taken root here" says Vikram Sood, the former head of India's foreign intelligence service.

While there have been bombings claimed by indigenous groups such as the Indian Mujahideen, they have been few and far between and there is no sign it has significant support.

The biggest attacks in India involving Muslims have had clear evidence of Pakistani involvement.

Despite having 10% of the world's Muslims to recruit from, al-Qaeda has made no headway here.

And no Indian Muslim has gone to fight in Afghanistan with the Taliban. "Or even Kashmir," adds Sood.


Yet the provocations have continued - with hundreds more Muslims dying in the 2002 Gujarat riots, when there was again clear evidence of Hindu extremists orchestrating the killing.

After the death last month of Bal Thackeray, the leader of a right-wing Hindu party accused of a central role in the 1992 Mumbai riots, Habiba was bracing herself for a repeat.

Little hope

"Things can go wrong any time. We are just counting the days".

One thing has changed though in Jogeshwari - a sprawling slum area with lanes so narrow residents often have to walk single file.

Mixed areas have largely disappeared and there is now a clear division between Muslim and Hindu neighbourhoods. A road marks the "border" between what Hindus call "Little Pakistan'"and their side, Hindustan, or India.

People in the Muslim part of Jogeshwari see little hope of their lives improving.
"Only Hindus get good jobs, in banks or government," complains Habiba's neighbour Marzina, who moved into a cramped two-room house with her family after the riots for safety.

The figures back her up - showing Muslims bumping along the bottom with Hindu untouchable castes and tribal groups in income, employment, literacy and access to education.

While they make up 14-15% of the population, they hold barely 4% of government jobs and they are far more likely than other groups to be in informal employment, running street stalls or the like.

Some Muslims are doing well: Indian movie stars like Shah Rukh Khan, Salman Khan and Aamir Khan.

But they don't emphasise their heritage.

Another big industry name with Muslim origins, film-maker Mahesh Bhatt, believes it helped him that his mother covered them up.

She was Muslim but says she gave him a Hindu name to prevent his identity from becoming "an albatross"

He now uses his movie fame as a platform to speak out for Muslim causes.

India pretends to be more secular and inclusive than it is, he maintains.

"Why does India celebrate a black man in the White House?" he demands when we meet at his Mumbai office.

"I'll celebrate only when we have a Muslim in the prime minister's chair in India."

'Another world'

To critics, Bhatt is a habitual controversialist with a gift for a headline.

But he is unusual in speaking up at all for India's Muslims. Unlike Hindus, they have no national political party representing them.

There is a stronger tendency to keep quiet and work with the system.
"We can't go and live in another world" says Dr Mohammed Khatkhatay who runs a charity providing education and training in Mumbai's slums, mostly to Muslims.

In some ways, this is just common sense. However many there are, Muslims are still a minority. "If I pierce someone's eye," says Dr Khatkhatay, "the result will be the whole of our community goes blind."

It's much harder for any cohesive Islamic identity - let alone militant ideology - to gain ground in India's huge and diverse society - where Muslims share little except their faith.

So a Muslim from Kerala in the south who may be descended from seafarers has more in common with Hindus or Christians in the state than he does with Muslims from Uttar Pradesh in the north.

The widespread adherence to more moderate, inclusive Sufi Islamic teachings have also helped stall the emergence of militancy.

The government also has a tighter hold on madrassas or religious schools, which in Pakistan have become a bedrock of recruits for the Taliban and others.

Looking across their borders to its majority-Muslim neighbours, Indian Muslims have concluded they are better off here argues Najeeb Jung, Vice Chancellor of Delhi's Jamia Millia University.

"The big watershed was 1971" he says, when Bangladesh broke away from Pakistan. "If ever there was a romance with Pakistan, it was over then"


Dr Jung is less gloomy about Muslims here, believing "they are faring as well or as badly as everyone else."

But therein lies the danger. The economy has sagged badly in the past year with no sign yet it has bottomed out.

"If we get the economy going again," says Vikram Sood, "all these issues will wither away. If it doesn't happen, they will multiply, disproportionately"

BBC News - Why al-Qaeda finds no recruits in India
 
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Because Al-qaeda dint find India strategically fit enough for its work for the world powers' geo-political agendas
 
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Because Al-qaeda dint find India strategically fit enough for its work for the world powers' geo-political agendas

Wrong. Another important factor to consider fact that Muslims are a MINORITY here. You pull a stunt and there are more extremists on the other side rearing to shut you down or frame you anyway.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

And no, i dont find it repulsive, rather a necessity to make sure we dont down go down the same slippery slope Pakistan chose. Its necessary at least until Islam itself reforms.....or, everyone goes sufi.
 
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Because Al-qaeda dint find India strategically fit enough for its work for the world powers' geo-political agendas

Oh really?????

Define strategically fit please. Cause I think India is the most strategic country in Asia. All oil goes through India, all trade, shipping goes through Indian coast. It reaches up to countries like Myanmar, and all regional countries need Indian support to progress

Or you meant availability of illiterate poor people brain washed and ready to die with a suicide jacket strapped onto their chest? Well, yeah that way we're nowhere near as STRATEGIC as Pakistan. :eek:
 
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India has a fair share of muslim extremists. There is a bombing at least once a year. Although not much , It is still a cause for worry. There were about 6 bombings in India done by local muslims in 2008.

But yes, it is less then many countries in this region
 
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India has a fair share of muslim extremists. There is a bombing at least once a year. Although not much , It is still a cause for worry. There were about 6 bombings in India done by local muslims in 2008.

But yes, it is less then many countries in this region

But it's no where compared to the scale which other countries with sizable Muslim populations face. The article is right in saying that Extremist organizations do not easily have a base to recruit from in India. I find Indian Muslims educated and patriotic plus they are fairly spread out through out the country and highly assimilated in their residing regions culture. A few concentrated Muslim regions do have ethnic and extremist problems.
 
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Because Al-qaeda dint find India strategically fit enough for its work for the world powers' geo-political agendas

Oh the reason because we're not a pathetic fool like you to kill innocent people in name of God.....Got it,
Al-Qaeda main guys and funds come from Karachi in first place, no wonder why the world see Pakistan as Terrorist Harbor after Iran. and the worst thing is you joined with US in WOT for Currency from them, and no wonder why you pay the price every day from the terrorist you harbored
 
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But it's no where compared to the scale which other countries with sizable Muslim populations face. The article is right in saying that Extremist organizations do not easily have a base to recruit from in India. I find Indian Muslims educated and patriotic plus they are fairly spread out through out the country and highly assimilated in their residing regions culture. A few concentrated Muslim regions do have ethnic and extremist problems.

I agree with this but still , i feel articles like this one are not good for an already lax national security system in India.it can lead to even more complacency
 
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Because Al-qaeda dint find India strategically fit enough for its work for the world powers' geo-political agendas

LOLL, and the other nation in the neighborhood is strategically fit to carry out Al-Qaida's scheme for carrying out mayhem and terror all over the world. Is that what you mean to say? Tragic and funny view.

Actually the guys who could've been part of Al-Qaida discovered that its activities are just a one-way street to destruction and a journey to a place which nobody even knows; regardless of what some people say.
And even heaven has run out of virgins. So no worthwhile incentive exists for any sane human being, to ride the Al-Qaida band-wagon towards blazing and exploding glories. Hence the paucity.
 
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We have fair share of wannabe Jihadis. Al-Qaeda can get a recruit or, two but a factory of Jihadis ala pakistan can not be established here. The main reason for this is the secular education which every school going child gets.
 
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