Bullshit. There's plenty of evidence -- including statements by your political leaders -- proving otherwise. I won't read or reply to the rest of your screed, if you won't recognize even basic facts.
Massacres and dispossession of Palestinians affected mainly non-combattants and villages not directly involved in the fighting. And even if the "war" could explain the exodus, it doesn't explain why Palestinian refugees were impeded to return to their homes, ato claim their lands and money, even after the war ended and the UN passed resolutions demanding their return. Interestingly, you take great offense at the Palestinian rejection of non-binding UNGA resolution passing the partition resolution -- a resolution which put mostly Palestinian Arab land under Jewish sovereignty -- though you seem to be pretty indifferent to Israel's own flaunting of UN resolutions.
Anyway, if Palestinians and later on Arabs hadn't started the 1948 war, then Israel would. Zionists never truly accepted the 1948 borders.They pretended they did because that was the clever thing to do: they left it for Palestinians and Arabs to contest the partition, so later on they could garner international support in a future war against their opponents by shifting all of the blame for the conflict on them.
According to "The Iron Wall", a book by Israeli historian Avi Shlaim, prior to Israel's foundation and the subsequent war Zionist officials were already scheming with King Abdullah of Jordan to sabotage a future Palestinian state. The King was interested in creating a Great Jordan by taking lands from neighboring countries, so the Zionists promised him that, after gobbling up more Arab land following the "independence" war, they'd support his annexation of what'd be left of the proposed Palestinian state. In other words, a war in 1948 was inevitable, whether or not it was the Arabs who made the first move.
Zionist leaders saw in the partition plan only the first stage of their conquest of the whole of historical Palestine. Ben Gurion said in late 30s, "After the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we shall abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine".
And even if the Zionists were the good citizens they pretended to be, even if they had accepted the UN partition with no further attempt to expand their territory at the expense of Palestinians, it'd still be right for Palestinians to fight back against Israel's creation. Terrorism, confiscation of goods and land annexation have been part of the making of the state of Israel from the beginning. Said David Ben Gurion: "We must see the situation for what it is. On the security front, we are those attacked and who are on the defensive. But in the political field we are the attackers and the Arabs are those defending themselves. They are living in the country and own the land, the village. We live in the Diaspora and want only to immigrate [to Palestine] and gain possession of [lirkosh] from them".
Quoting IDF documents opened to public access in the 1980s, Israeli Jewish historian Benny Morris has found that 55% of Palestinians left under direct attacks of the Haganah, and a further 15% left under terrorist assaults by Zionist groups Irgun and Lehi. Some other Palestinians left because of direct expulsion orders by Jews and psychological warfare intended to frighten them away from their homes. Only a small minority of Palestinians fled on their own accord.
I gave you plenty of arguments which point that Israel's withdrawals were not under a threat of use of force from the Arab side not there is or ever was any master plan of occupation. You have the right to stay ignorant, and stick to your ideas which has no support in reality.
I had the great honour to listen to Beni Moritz who two years ago published a new book on the 1948 War and the Palestinian problem called "1948". What I have told you is based on him - most of the Palestinians fled with no help nor encouragement of Israel and of course he rules out completely the nonsense of master plan to get rid of the Palestinians.
You acknowledge that the Palestinians rejected the partition plan of 1947 and Israel accepted it, and still you justify their decision which brought them where they are today - living in refugee camps, scattered and with no independent state which if and when be established will be much smaller than what they could get in 1947. And you blame the Jews for an imaginary war they never provoked.
So you justify their violence against the Jewish community and you blame the Jews for not surrendering and commit suicide. Sorry for that, we will try better next time...
And Israel did accept the 1948 borders and ask the Arab countries time and time again to make peace in this borders - but rejected over and over again, until 1967. Now it is the Arabs who wants peace in the same borders they rejected before...
Of course Israel tried to get into agreement with the King of Jordan against the Palestinian national movement, what did you expect? The head of the Palestinians was the Grand Mufit, Hussaini, a declared Nazi, convicted on war crimes in France, who was a personal friend of Hitler, and now under his leadership the Palestinians were ready to implement his plan to get rid of the Jews. So, of course Israel preferred that if the Palestinians reject the partition plan there would not be any Nazi Palestinian state on their border, it is better to deal with the regular Arab hostility.
As for the Palestinian refugees, they are no different than other war refugees who fled their homes and re-settled in their hosting countries. Only the Palestinians have permanent refugee camps because the Arab countries treat them as dirt and second class people, and their own Palestinian leadership prefer to leave them in deprivation so to use them as a political tool. As I mentioned, Israel with its 600,000 people at the end of the 1948 War absorbed 800,000 Jews from Arab countries who became refugees (and several hundred thousands who fled from Europe), so Arab countries with their vast resources, population and territory can easily house the Palestinian refugees. What happened to their solidarity with the Palestinian cause?
Bullshit. There's plenty of evidence -- including statements by your political leaders -- proving otherwise. I won't read or reply to the rest of your screed, if you won't recognize even basic facts.
Massacres and dispossession of Palestinians affected mainly non-combattants and villages not directly involved in the fighting. And even if the "war" could explain the exodus, it doesn't explain why Palestinian refugees were impeded to return to their homes, ato claim their lands and money, even after the war ended and the UN passed resolutions demanding their return. Interestingly, you take great offense at the Palestinian rejection of non-binding UNGA resolution passing the partition resolution -- a resolution which put mostly Palestinian Arab land under Jewish sovereignty -- though you seem to be pretty indifferent to Israel's own flaunting of UN resolutions.
Anyway, if Palestinians and later on Arabs hadn't started the 1948 war, then Israel would. Zionists never truly accepted the 1948 borders.They pretended they did because that was the clever thing to do: they left it for Palestinians and Arabs to contest the partition, so later on they could garner international support in a future war against their opponents by shifting all of the blame for the conflict on them.
According to "The Iron Wall", a book by Israeli historian Avi Shlaim, prior to Israel's foundation and the subsequent war Zionist officials were already scheming with King Abdullah of Jordan to sabotage a future Palestinian state. The King was interested in creating a Great Jordan by taking lands from neighboring countries, so the Zionists promised him that, after gobbling up more Arab land following the "independence" war, they'd support his annexation of what'd be left of the proposed Palestinian state. In other words, a war in 1948 was inevitable, whether or not it was the Arabs who made the first move.
Zionist leaders saw in the partition plan only the first stage of their conquest of the whole of historical Palestine. Ben Gurion said in late 30s, "After the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we shall abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine".
And even if the Zionists were the good citizens they pretended to be, even if they had accepted the UN partition with no further attempt to expand their territory at the expense of Palestinians, it'd still be right for Palestinians to fight back against Israel's creation. Terrorism, confiscation of goods and land annexation have been part of the making of the state of Israel from the beginning. Said David Ben Gurion: "We must see the situation for what it is. On the security front, we are those attacked and who are on the defensive. But in the political field we are the attackers and the Arabs are those defending themselves. They are living in the country and own the land, the village. We live in the Diaspora and want only to immigrate [to Palestine] and gain possession of [lirkosh] from them".
Quoting IDF documents opened to public access in the 1980s, Israeli Jewish historian Benny Morris has found that 55% of Palestinians left under direct attacks of the Haganah, and a further 15% left under terrorist assaults by Zionist groups Irgun and Lehi. Some other Palestinians left because of direct expulsion orders by Jews and psychological warfare intended to frighten them away from their homes. Only a small minority of Palestinians fled on their own accord.
I gave you plenty of arguments which point that Israel's withdrawals were not under a threat of use of force from the Arab side not there is or ever was any master plan of occupation. You have the right to stay ignorant, and stick to your ideas which has no support in reality.
I had the great honour to listen to Beni Moritz who two years ago published a new book on the 1948 War and the Palestinian problem called "1948". What I have told you is based on him - most of the Palestinians fled with no help nor encouragement of Israel and of course he rules out completely the nonsense of master plan to get rid of the Palestinians.
You acknowledge that the Palestinians rejected the partition plan of 1947 and Israel accepted it, and still you justify their decision which brought them where they are today - living in refugee camps, scattered and with no independent state which if and when be established will be much smaller than what they could get in 1947. And you blame the Jews for an imaginary war they never provoked.
So you justify their violence against the Jewish community and you blame the Jews for not surrendering and commit suicide. Sorry for that, we will try better next time...
And Israel did accept the 1948 borders and ask the Arab countries time and time again to make peace in this borders - but rejected over and over again, until 1967. Now it is the Arabs who wants peace in the same borders they rejected before...
Of course Israel tried to get into agreement with the King of Jordan against the Palestinian national movement, what did you expect? The head of the Palestinians was the Grand Mufit, Hussaini, a declared Nazi, convicted on war crimes in France, who was a personal friend of Hitler, and now under his leadership the Palestinians were ready to implement his plan to get rid of the Jews. So, of course Israel preferred that if the Palestinians reject the partition plan there would not be any Nazi Palestinian state on their border, it is better to deal with the regular Arab hostility.
As for the Palestinian refugees, they are no different than other war refugees who fled their homes and re-settled in their hosting countries. Only the Palestinians have permanent refugee camps because the Arab countries treat them as dirt and second class people, and their own Palestinian leadership prefer to leave them in deprivation so to use them as a political tool. As I mentioned, Israel with its 600,000 people at the end of the 1948 War absorbed 800,000 Jews from Arab countries who became refugees (and several hundred thousands who fled from Europe), so Arab countries with their vast resources, population and territory can easily house the Palestinian refugees. What happened to their solidarity with the Palestinian cause?
... Palestine issue is the issue of humanity. They were expelled from their land and Israelis snatched poor people's land and called it theirs...but since Israelis were Westerners...slave Bhartis were bound to kiss their a$$ ...and hence you are doing it. By the way , not only Pakistan but many , many other nations support Palestine..are they kissing Arab **** too? LOL! Average bharti is a mental slave of whites. Pity on you.
