Who will survive ultimately: Hindu India or Secular India?

[pothead]

He will be the first one to cry like a little you know what if shove came to the push. He will shove his little kids in front of him to save his sorry behind.

You mean like the "little" Owaisi who claimed the 15 min police only to snivel like a piglet when he got shot and had to be saved by "hindus".

 

[pragmatic_dude]

The bigger problem with Hindu nationalism is an encouragement of pseudo-science, pseudo-history from the very top..This besides historical revisionism of the Medieval era (Rana Pratap defeating Akbar)...I am horrified at what it will do in extinguishing the budding scientific and rational temper of the Indian populace.....(Lot of rationalist movements down south that quash the fake supernatural claims of Babas and Fakirs)



As long as the collective energy of the Indian state and Indian people can deliver 7-8% growth rate for 30 years straight, things will converge to true secularism (not state imposed one)...The kind of secularism seen in East Asia and North Western Europe..where most people have come to terms with the fact that there is no afterlife, and this life is as good or bad as things will ever get.


Because it is the natural tendency of a populace to converge to true secularism once achieving near-developed status....The exceptions being countries of the Middle East whose developed status has been brought about by resource windfall rather than the cognitive achievements of the populace


Now the question is Can the Indian populace deliver 8% growth rate for 30 years straight from now?
I will say NO...I am of the opinion that infinite economic growth is not possible on a finite planet

India along with the rest of the developing world has missed the bus when it comes to economic growth..China took the bus and occupying it all by itself

The world can at best sustain 2 billion people at developed lifestyle level, be it with renéwable energy or not.
there are already close to 1 billion people living in developed societies..the rest 1 billion will come from China



How do I see India's trajectory in the 21st century?

India will be like Latin America of 20th century while China will be like North America of 20th century

As soon as the growth peters out, there will be violence between all the religious nincompoops as well as between the religious ones and the rationalists...........After the violent conflicts have been fought over, India as well as the whole subcontinent may settle down to a life of uneasy hedonism and increased crime, as evidenced in modern day Brazil...there will still be super high tech companies in India churning out world class products, just as there is Embraer in Brazil

Wow....if i had the power to give positive rating ...i would have gladly given it to you.

 

[pothead]

How do I see India's trajectory in the 21st century?

India will be like Latin America of 20th century while China will be like North America of 20th century

If not for Hindus, India by now would have looked like Pakistan and Bangladesh.
Enough said.

 

[Stag112]

If not for Hindus, India by now would have looked like Pakistan and Bangladesh.
Enough said.

Ha ha. Are you here to destroy PDF by posting the truth?

 

[Areesh]

Many died with this dream and many more will too.

But still process is going smoothly to make that dream come true.

 

[kvpak]

India is an artificial creation of British colonial rulers. Soviet Union rose AND it fell. So will this artificial India.

Freedom of Tamil Nadu is not negotiable

 

[CHN Bamboo]

Religion will be abandoned ultimately as human development needs.
I believe all countries will be secular in the near future.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Well India claims to be a secular country.

 

[Shankranthi]

The bigger problem with Hindu nationalism is an encouragement of pseudo-science, pseudo-history from the very top..This besides historical revisionism of the Medieval era (Rana Pratap defeating Akbar)...I am horrified at what it will do in extinguishing the budding scientific and rational temper of the Indian populace.....(Lot of rationalist movements down south that quash the fake supernatural claims of Babas and Fakirs)

Does "pseudo science and pseudo history" mean keeping an open mind and not being Narrow minded ?

Thank god for that.

Rana pratap fought Man singh (fellow hindu rajput) and not akbar directly and a pyrrhic victory is not a victory. its a defeat in the form of a victory. That is what Akbar got and Rana Pratap continued to rule Mewar and chitor till his death.

It takes a special kind of fool to think that an open mind will lead to the extinguishing of scientific and rational temperament Such temperament are smothered by narrow minded "intellectuals" who assume to "know it all". A desperate substitute for their real ignorance.

As long as the collective energy of the Indian state and Indian people can deliver 7-8% growth rate for 30 years straight, things will converge to true secularism (not state imposed one)...The kind of secularism seen in East Asia and North Western Europe..where most people have come to terms with the fact that there is no afterlife, and this life is as good or bad as things will ever get.

Rubbish since secularism has NOTHING to do with economic growth Another example of an Ignorant Narrow mind.

India was secular when we had no growth, India will remain secular when we have growth. Because we REJECT narrow minded thinking and keep an open mind about everything.

Because it is the natural tendency of a populace to converge to true secularism once achieving near-developed status....The exceptions being countries of the Middle East whose developed status has been brought about by resource windfall rather than the cognitive achievements of the populace

More Rubbish. Your exception has already demonstrated that "true secularism" (whatever that means ) has nothing to do with "development". China regularly persecutes Buddhists, muslims and falong gong members in the name of "true secularism" and they are near developed.

Another example of your narrow mind.

Now the question is Can the Indian populace deliver 8% growth rate for 30 years straight from now?
I will say NO...I am of the opinion that infinite economic growth is not possible on a finite planet

India along with the rest of the developing world has missed the bus when it comes to economic growth..China took the bus and occupying it all by itself

The world can at best sustain 2 billion people at developed lifestyle level, be it with renéwable energy or not.
there are already close to 1 billion people living in developed societies..the rest 1 billion will come from China

That is your OPINION ........ it means nothing more, nothing less.

Opinions are like @ssholes, everybody's got them. But only fools flash them and they Stink.

How do I see India's trajectory in the 21st century?

India will be like Latin America of 20th century while China will be like North America of 20th century

More Opinion.

As soon as the growth peters out, there will be violence between all the religious nincompoops as well as between the religious ones and the rationalists...........After the violent conflicts have been fought over, India as well as the whole subcontinent may settle down to a life of uneasy hedonism and increased crime, as evidenced in modern day Brazil...there will still be super high tech companies in India churning out world class products, just as there is Embraer in Brazil

.... errrr .... and More Opinions.

He will be the first one to cry like a little you know what if shove came to the push. He will shove his little kids in front of him to save his sorry behind.

Barking dogs seldom bite, but its interesting to hear a rabid dog bark.

 

[SMASTER]

The world can at best sustain 2 billion people at developed lifestyle level

Any statistics to back up your claim ? You have painted very horrible picture of future.According to your analysis we are doomed forever.Our people will never have lifestyle of developed nations.This sucks,bro

 

[Loafer]

@Joe Shearer

With blessings of Allah, please enlighten why should secular India prevail and why Hindu India shouldn't?

What steps are being taken by seculars to fight and defend secular India which is dying fast?

 

[SMASTER]

Where government ministers assault women if they are in relationships with muslims out of free choice

Which minister assaulted ???

 

[Shankranthi]

Any statistics to back up your claim ? You have painted very horrible picture of future.According to your analysis we are doomed forever.Our people will never have lifestyle of developed nations.This sucks,bro

Nope, its conjuncture based on opinions. Not facts.

Nothing he has said is remotely factual. Its just a picture of his own mind and its is a pretty dark place.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Any statistics to back up your claim ? You have painted very horrible picture of future.According to your analysis we are doomed forever.Our people will never have lifestyle of developed nations.This sucks,bro

There are much more sources but for the time being I am giving you the Google Featured answer for Sustainable Population ...you can dig around through UN websites and giving the relevant search terms :

"Taking these non-renewable resources into account suggests 2 billion people living at a European standard of living may be the upper limit of a sustainable global population. Climate change will only add to the strain on the planet's ability to support all 7+ billion of us."


http://www.worldpopulationbalance.org/3_times_sustainable

Does "pseudo science and pseudo history" mean keeping an open mind and not being Narrow minded ?

Thank god for that.

Rana pratap fought Man singh (fellow hindu rajput) and not akbar directly and a pyrrhic victory is not a victory. its a defeat in the form of a victory. That is what Akbar got and Rana Pratap continued to rule Mewar and chitor till his death.

It takes a special kind of fool to think that an open mind will lead to the extinguishing of scientific and rational temperament Such temperament are smothered by narrow minded "intellectuals" who assume to "know it all". A desperate substitute for their real ignorance.



Rubbish since secularism has NOTHING to do with economic growth Another example of an Ignorant Narrow mind.

India was secular when we had no growth, India will remain secular when we have growth. Because we REJECT narrow minded thinking and keep an open mind about everything.



More Rubbish. Your exception has already demonstrated that "true secularism" (whatever that means ) has nothing to do with "development". China regularly persecutes Buddhists, muslims and falong gong members in the name of "true secularism" and they are near developed.

Another example of your narrow mind.



That is your OPINION ........ it means nothing more, nothing less.

Opinions are like @ssholes, everybody's got them. But only fools flash them and they Stink.



More Opinion.



.... errrr .... and More Opinions.



Barking dogs seldom bite, but its interesting to hear a rabid dog bark.

People donot post on PDF if they donot have an opinion

 

[Shankranthi]

People donot post on PDF if they donot have an opinion

You post any opinion that try to put India down, expect to be named and shamed.

Learn to deal with your own depression and dark thoughts without project it on the whole of India.