Who Really Killed Osama Bin Laden?

[Desertfalcon]

Pakistan would have been attacked for harbouring the one who allegedly masterminded the (false flag) 9/11 attacks if it were not for China's uncharacteristic statement.

Except Pakistan didn't know OBL was there. Heck, we weren’t completely sure he was there. As for China, they only made their pledge to defend Pakistan after the raid, not before it, so it could not have deterred the US from anything.

 

[cocomo]

Please dont dig up this topic again, its been discussed to death. I am having a DejaVu, a thread with 100s of pages filled with conspiracy theories, trolls, and absolutely no conclusion.

Did someone force you to take part in this thread or you can't help your nosy Hindu nature?

 

[TMA]

Except Pakistan didn't know OBL was there. Heck, we weren’t completely sure he was there. As for China, they only made their pledge to defend Pakistan after the raid, not before it, so it could not have deterred the US from anything.

The US was hoping that China would "disown" Pakistan after this raid; she certainly was not ready for war against China.

What I mean to say is that this OBL affair was about generating casual belli against Pakistan and isolating her... to make it easier for the guard dogs of Zionism to finish Pakistan...but China said you mess with Pakistan you mess with China.

 

[dexter]

The country that has habit of bragging about their success and victories doesn't even show or photographed thier number one enemy.
Full time topi drama like 9/11.

 

[ISI-1]

He passed away peacefully like Mullah Omar many years back. Abbtobad operation was just to vipe his name out.

Just think, they hanged Saddan on eid day and telecased live. Murdered Gaddafi and laid his body for 10 days in cold storage for the world to see.

By this scale of brutality they should have preserved his body for eternal display! Insted they disposed it off in sea. Wtf............!

He died a normal death, albeit, through ill health, back in 2006, and he was buried lalong the PAK-Afghan border.

 

[Morse_Code]

He definitely existed, and was definitely in Pakistan during the 2000's.

I dont know if the Americans actually killed him though, it seems bizarre that they would capture the most wanted terrorist and not release even a single photo. It's more likely that it was stunt to get Obama elected.

Although he was in Pakistan, I think he died of natural causes, but the Americans cant exactly tell people that can they? given the massive sacrifice and cost in the war on terror and the entire invasion of Afghanistan was because of him.

apparently he died like 3 times... no em just saying Osama they guy who was responsible for 9/11 was a fictional character to which they have to give a face...

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Except Pakistan didn't know OBL was there. Heck, we weren’t completely sure he was there. As for China, they only made their pledge to defend Pakistan after the raid, not before it, so it could not have deterred the US from anything.

We will never know the exact truth until the files are declassified, however my feeling is Pakistan was told at last hour. The pretence of 'not knowing' was kept up so that the Pak leadership would not face the inevitable backlash from the extemists and their sympathizers who sadly do hold significant sway in the country. Better the anger get deflected onto USA.

We may use the same animated pretence with regards to the drones attacks when their base was inside Pakistan at Shamsi.

 

[RealNapster]

As to conflicting evidence, I would think that as al Qaeda itself, released a statement confirming that OBL had indeed been killed in the raid, and their subordinate organizations around the world released statements as well,

it is also confirmed that Mullah Umar died in 2013. 2 years before when NDS released the news of his death. and only then Afghan taliban released the news of his death.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...d546bc-3606-11e5-9d0f-7865a67390ee_story.html

Now tell me you still carry this excuse of Al-qaeda not declaring his death earlier ??

 

[Flash_Ninja]

apparently he died like 3 times... no em just saying Osama they guy who was responsible for 9/11 was a fictional character to which they have to give a face...

Nah dude, he was the leader of Al Quieda and was therefore responsible.

My guess is this sequence of events

• US tracks him down, and finds he's running around in Pakistan.
• The US govt. and pentagon is pissed off at Pakistan, but finds out that Osama died of some other causes.
• While still angry with Pakistan, they plan to 'punish' by conducting an operation to possibly capture senior Al-Quieda commanders hiding in Abbotabad, under the guise of killing Bin Laden.
• Pakistani establishment agrees to plan in exchange for ???
• US conducts raid, crashes a helicopter, claims that Bin Laden was shot, they 'buried his body at sea', etc.

This would explain a lot, like why Pakistani military and government was silent on what 'Bin Laden' was doing in Abbotabad, and also why the US didn't do anything to punish Pakistan in the aftermath. They invaded Afghanistan because the Taliban was 'protecting him' for goodness sake, so an actual sovereign state hiding him should in reality have face much more fury, even if it was just sanctions.

Of course, since Bin Laden wasn't really killed in that operation then the US wouldn't really need a reason to punish Pakistan especially with the compliance of Pakistani authorities in staging the operation, and would instead choose to support Pakistan in finishing the WoT.

 

[Desertfalcon]

The US was hoping that China would "disown" Pakistan after this raid; she certainly was not ready for war against China.

I'm sure the US didn’t think anything at all about China in relation to the raid. Indeed, China's reaction was to issue this statement...

"The People's Republic of China (PRC) said on Monday evening that the death of Osama bin Laden was "a milestone and a positive development for the international anti-terrorism efforts".

What I mean to say is that this OBL affair was about generating casual belli against Pakistan and isolating her...

Um, no, it was about killing the guy who was responsible for murdering 3,000 of my countrymen in front of my eyes. If it were about, "generating casual belli against Pakistan and isolating her", then we probably wouldn't have, post 9/11/2001, provided Pakistan with...

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/pakarms.pdf

it is also confirmed that Mullah Umar died in 2013. 2 years before when NDS released the news of his death. and only then Afghan taliban released the news of his death.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...d546bc-3606-11e5-9d0f-7865a67390ee_story.html

Now tell me you still carry this excuse of Al-qaeda not declaring his death earlier ??

1. I don't know what you are really asking me.

2. What does this have to do with al-Qaeda's admission of OBL being killed by the US raid in Abbattobad?

 

[Morse_Code]

Nah dude, he was the leader of Al Quieda and was therefore responsible.

My guess is this sequence of events

• US tracks him down, and finds he's running around in Pakistan.
• The US govt. and pentagon is pissed off at Pakistan, but finds out that Osama died of some other causes.
• While still angry with Pakistan, they plan to 'punish' by conducting an operation to possibly capture senior Al-Quieda commanders hiding in Abbotabad, under the guise of killing Bin Laden.
• Pakistani establishment agrees to plan in exchange for ???
• US conducts raid, crashes a helicopter, claims that Bin Laden was shot, they 'buried his body at sea', etc.

This would explain a lot, like why Pakistani military and government was silent on what 'Bin Laden' was doing in Abbotabad, and also why the US didn't do anything to punish Pakistan in the aftermath. They invaded Afghanistan because the Taliban was 'protecting him' for goodness sake, so an actual sovereign state hiding him should in reality have face much more fury, even if it was just sanctions.

Of course, since Bin Laden wasn't really killed in that operation then the US wouldn't really need a reason to punish Pakistan especially with the compliance of Pakistani authorities in staging the operation, and would instead choose to support Pakistan in finishing the WoT.

Digestible though!

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Here, me. I am the evidence. I was his nephrologist. I treated him thrice a weak. His death? Not my fault. Blame it on the local electricity company. There was a blackout because of load shedding and the machine caught fire because of a surge, poor Osama was on it and got a shock which killed him.

I then thought he is dead anyway so why not claim the money. The sheikh had asked me what was dream? I had answered "I want to retire to a beach on the Malibu". He had replied "your dream will come true one day". Seeing the opportunity I rang CIA. They offered me $10 million as reward on the condition I don't tell anybody for at least 5 years. They then arranged the whole Hollywood spectacle to get the credit. I went to Malibu from where I now am writing this sat on the balmy beach with two rather shapely young ladies on my sides and another very endowed lady massaging my feat giving me spectacular frontal view.

This is the truth.

You are a damned liar.
Your flags proves you are spending Your $10M reward in Brighton.
We are not easily fooled!

 

[RealNapster]

1. I don't know what you are really asking me.

2. What does this have to do with al-Qaeda's admission of OBL being killed by the US raid in Abbattobad?

Nothing. carry on

 

[TMA]

I'm sure the US didn’t think anything at all about China in relation to the raid. Indeed, China's reaction was to issue this statement...

"The People's Republic of China (PRC) said on Monday evening that the death of Osama bin Laden was "a milestone and a positive development for the international anti-terrorism efforts".



Um, no, it was about killing the guy who was responsible for murdering 3,000 of my countrymen in front of my eyes. If it were about, "generating casual belli against Pakistan and isolating her", then we probably wouldn't have, post 9/11/2001, provided Pakistan with...

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/pakarms.pdf


1. I don't know what you are really asking me.

2. What does this have to do with al-Qaeda's admission of OBL being killed by the US raid in Abbattobad?

' "Any attack on Pakistan would be construed as an attack on China," Beijing recently warned the US. After the Abbottabad operation, in which Osama bin Laden was killed, Pakistani Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani's visited China from May 17 – 21, 2011...'

I am sure the US took note of this.

After the false flags of 9/11 the US threatened to bomb Pakistan back to the stone age and therefore Musharraf had no choice but to make Pakistan an "ally". Now initially I thought that that this was just Musharraf trying to justify his servitude in front of the Pakistani public until some senior members on this very forum explained in no uncertain terms to me that this threat was true and Pakistan could not but submit.

 

[Desertfalcon]

I am sure the US took note of this.

But you have yet to explain how the US took note of it in regards to the bin-Laden raid, before China ever made such a pledge to Pakistan.

Now initially I thought that that this was just Musharraf trying to justify his servitude in front of the Pakistani public until some senior members on this very forum explained in no uncertain terms to me that this threat was true and Pakistan could not but submit.

So I'm to believe that some vague, unnamed, "members on the forum" are the definitive authorities on this issue?

How about we look at what we actually do know about it. President Musharraff only made this claim for the first time, in a single interview on the American TV show '60 Minutes' years after the fact. And even he admitted in the interview, that he was only repeating what he had been told happened, in a conversation immediately after 9/11/2001 between a Pakistani ISI officer, and Deputy Sec. of State, Richard Armitage. When Musharraff was later pressed for details by other reporters, he repeatedly dodged the questions until he then claimed he was, "unable to provide details due to restrictions by the publisher" of his upcoming book, 'In the Line of Fire'. Riiiiight. Richard Armitage, when he was questioned about the alleged incident, was utterly baffled and stated that while he did have numerous conversations with Pakistani officials right after 9/11, and did repeat President Bush's, "those that aren't with us, are against us." line, that his call to Pakistani officials were cordial, cooperative, and no threat at all, was ever made. President Bush, was likewise baffled, stating that he first heard of such a story, only when he read it in the newspapers, many years after 9/11. Colin Powell said that such a threat would not have been made in any event, as his calls, and others, reported that Musharraff's government immediately agreed to all seven items requested by the US government, of Pakistan, without conditions.

And btw, when Gen. Musharraff's book was published, it was most harshly trashed by the reviewers in Pakistan for it's multitude of self-serving lies, excuses, and inconsistencies.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Armitage_(politician)#Pakistan_and_the_fight_against_terrorism

https://www.pressreader.com/