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An eye opening report from the proceedings in the SCP.
Please look at the behaviour of Attorney General of Pakistan and whose behest he was in the SCP, from the report it is clear he was not representing Government of PTI but some other department.

Look at the revelations in the context that opposition had 3 meetings with the Military Establishment and issued threats to them.

Why presenting the evidence of foreign involvement in this fiasco in the SCP was a problem, and for whom!!
Once you look at the whole scenario, everything would become clear, how and why this verdict is secured.
 
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The constitution was violated by a bratty stubborn moron and the s.c intervened to set things on right course .

Had s.c validated such arbitaray ruling, parliamentary democracy's fate might have been sealed in Pakistan as you'd 've already gotten a precedent of m nae khylnay do ga . I.k nay apni madari dikha k chalay jana tha or bhugtna avaam nay tha .
 
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The constitution was violated by a bratty stubborn moron and the s.c intervened to set things on right course .

Had s.c validated such arbitaray ruling, parliamentary democracy's fate might have been seized in Pakistan as you'd 've already gotten a precedent of m nae khylnay do ga . I.k nay apni madari dikha k chalay jana tha or bhugtna avaam nay tha .
what democracy? what constitution?
 
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what democracy? what constitution?

Take a class in Pakistani politics and stop being a blind follower of your child hood nostalgia. Your i k isn't that doodh ka dhula he's a madari like Bhutto but the difference is quite subtle. Visit any govt dept and you'd prolly come to know how transfer postings were done and at who's behest ?
 
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Take a class in Pakistani politics and stop being a blind follower of your child hood nostalgia. Your i k isn't that doodh ka dhula he's a madari like Bhutto but the difference is quite subtle. Visit any govt dept and you'd prolly come to know how transfer postings were done and at who's behest ?
lol, i am in a govt deptt. transfer posting have got nothing to do with constitution or democracy.

please stop acting like a holier than thou person, and stop being a blind follower yourself. there isnt any democracy in pakistan, just an understanding among the elite. and constitution violations have been carried out numerous times by everyone, first and foremost the "sadiq" and "ameen" article. a parliament made in violation of those articles has no right to rule the country, yet it does. the constitution is nothing but a worthless piece of man-made paper. you are just angry that your guy didnt get to violate it.
 
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The constitution was violated by a bratty stubborn moron and the s.c intervened to set things on right course .

Had s.c validated such arbitaray ruling, parliamentary democracy's fate might have been seized in Pakistan as you'd 've already gotten a precedent of m nae khylnay do ga . I.k nay apni madari dikha k chalay jana tha or bhugtna avaam nay tha .
Yes horse trading and a criminal becoming a PM is as per constitution
 
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This is similar to traffic light mentality here in Pakistan. On a red light, if any person (especially motorcylists / ricksha) crosses it, other people will follow. Bura nai smjha jata.

If people are such criminals who don't have safety of other motorists in mind, how do you think the upper class behaves when they get power? Right, they get intoxicated. This country deserves all the shit thrown at it.
 
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Babar Awan was in hand with PPP/Zardari in many corruptions cases and also his brother, Ghulam Farooq Awan served as the advisor to Prime Minister of Pakistan Yousaf Raza Gillani for Law, Justice and Parliamentary Affairs. He also served as the additional Attorney General of Pakistan.
 
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System is compromised deeply. Which supreme court takes a suo moto notice of parliamentary actions buts completely ignores blatant buying and selling of government sitting members with links to US. Which SC completely ignores credibility to foriegn interference stamped by Russia, China, and NSC but completely ignores it in verdict, not even a mention. Which SC throws out all laws to instruct sitting PM how to do governance.

It's a deep conspiracy. Maybe the case could have been stronger but there was enough evidence already. What did they do with Vol 10 of JiT? concrete evidence against sharifs, and what have they done except dragging it and instructing gov to let them go. On which deal is Maryam doing politics for 2 years when she should be in jail. On which deal is shehbaz not getting indicted. With such SC you can bring Biden in court and they will not accept that evidence.

Musharraf used to say constitution is no more than a paper to me. and these judges today proved it...it's just a piece of "#€# that can be twisted any time in favour of strong.
 
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Horse trading is not a crime anymore. Stealing PTI's mandate is not a crime in a democracy. What a shame on the so-called guardians of the constitution.
 
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What is this, can anyone shed some light? Ab pindi main b Jalsay hongay???

Yesterday COAS addressed to the officers of GHQ / Rawalpindi in which he openly accepted that we have left Imran Khan after that he faced the blow in the shape of questions from audience . To his surprise everyone supported Imran Khan . While answering all the harsh questions for 4 hours and 25 min finally in anger he said that Imran Khan is not a hero anymore and he won’t give a shit to his struggle and he also mentioned that he was not listening to Us since 2 years so finally we decided to say bye to him . he clearly said that no one is traitor in this country even Mohsin Dawar and Ali Wazir 🙃
To sum up he accepted that army was the part of this great game by saying that these kind of letters are routine stuff from ambassador and he normally even won’t see these letters and US Foreign office Rep is of the rank of “DQ” .
You can easily make out which side Army is standing moreover he ruled out Imran Khan coming into power again .
 
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An eye opening report from the proceedings in the SCP.
Please look at the behaviour of Attorney General of Pakistan and whose behest he was in the SCP, from the report it is clear he was not representing Government of PTI but some other department.

Look at the revelations in the context that opposition had 3 meetings with the Military Establishment and issued threats to them.

Why presenting the evidence of foreign involvement in this fiasco in the SCP was a problem, and for whom!!
Once you look at the whole scenario, everything would become clear, how and why this verdict is secured.
I have not listened to this podcast so please excuse me. I will make one post on the subject and will keep out of this debate as this is a subject of venting anger and not thinking properly.
A. The ruling. One must understand the stance of the Hon. SC in light of the law of the land.
1. The DEP speaker made a ruling based on a point of order that a foreign power is threatening the government of Pakistan.
a. No one could establish that he had seen the evidence for it beforehand. The minutes of the Nat. Sec committee meeting were there but he did not attend it. So in the morning he could not have reached a verdict based on reliable information.
b. More importantly, even if you accept that there is a threat, then what investigations were conducted to see how this was related to the No confidence movement tabled by the opposition?
c. Most importantly, if you were implying horse trading then could you prove implicitly that it had taken place? Where was the investigation and what money trail was being established from the source (ie the US)to the relevant actors of the NCV and the other lotas?
These 3 points needed to be established before one could say with reliable and honest intent that the Dep. Speaker's decision was sound. This could not be established by anyone.
B. THE RULINGS OF THE SPEAKER AND PARLIAENTARY PROCEEDINGS CANNOT BE CHALLANGED IN COURT.
The main defence was that the rulings of the deputy speaker could not be challanged in court. The difference between many previous rulings and this one was that if the rulings were procedural ie in relation to the day to day functioning of the parlianment, then they could not be challanged. If the ruling was against one person or some otherv matter then it would have been fine. This ruling was to overrule the rights of the majority by one man based on a premise which remains THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED BASED ON THE 3 POINTS MENTIONED ABOVE. Since the latter did not happen the rules of the functioning of the parlianment were toyed with by one man who issued a ruling contrary to the norms and ethics of the parlianment and therefore the SC held it void.
If the ruling was void then tye SC has merely turned back the clock to pre NCV and oedered that the NCV be tabled on Saturday.
I have no love lost for SS, Zardari/Billo Rani or Fazlu. To me personally they are the scum of the earth and dirty as hell. I fully believe that their NCV has been financed by the relevant force with a specific anti Pakistani agenda. However, my belief aside when you approach the SC you need to have IRREFUTABLE PROOF of this to have taken place. The lawyers could not have and therefore did not prove this to have happened. This is the crux of the matter.
Now I will leave you to continue to vent your Liver.
I also think these basrards cannot run the state in its current form with IK sat in the opposition. Their own mistrust will lead to fractioning soon. We will have elections if not in 3 months then 6-12 months. IK will be stronger and hopefully wiser than the last time having been stung badly on this account. On the street no one can counter PTI so it will come back stronger. Allah moves in mysterious ways and His machinations are unrivalled by all. Let us put our faith in HIM izzaWaJal to guide this country back to its path .
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PS:- I am not a lawyer so happy to be corrected by anyone with a better understanding of the Law.
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