Who Are Muslims .? by -Dr Ram Puniyani.

[Maarkhoor]

 

[Maarkhoor]

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@Joe Shearer

There are few Indian including you and Dr. Ram Puniyani still sane....

 

[SecularNationalist]

Its a well known fact that all religion based hatred in our great subcontinent is a result of british.Hindu,muslim,sikh,parsi and christian is not a problem.We are the same people regardless of religion who coexisted together for centuries.The main culprit is british.Still to this day we are divided in the name of religion ,though today we are different countries but whenever we fight in the name of religion foreign elements get benefited from that.Still today it,s easy to incite religious hatred as it was in 1857.
Thats why i advocate secularism so when it comes to religion there should be no authority of one religion over another and all citizens should be equal citizens of the state.There should be no concept of majority and minority as every citizen is a nationalist.
Another big lie we read in our distorted social studies is a lie of muslim rule over india for 1000 years.How was that a muslim rule ?Were those wars fought in the name of islam or was any islamic rule was established?? They were wars for power fought by so called ayash muslim rulers who had non muslim commanders in their armies .

 

[recon scout]

Well, he's rightly calling a lot of the bigoted stereotypes against muslims but completely misses the point at the same time. What we're really concerned about here is the expansionist ideology of the Abrahamists.

The Church, who is obsessed with converting people to their religion.. honestly, more than Christ consciousness and the example of Jesus, soul harvesting is their religion.

and fundamentalist sunnis, where hate for us "idolator" pagans and our ways are hard coded into every fibre of their being.

ideally, there should be a clear distinction between individual Muslims and Christians, and their respective expansionist abrahamist ideologies but we can play by their rules too.

fact: the islamic conquest of India was brutal, and the foreign invaders, because they brought a foreign arab ideology with them, caused them to destroy our places of worship.

fact: the church, with their failing presence and empty pews in the west are predators who prey on the poorest of the poor in India (and other countries in Africa and Asia, basically all over the poor world)

we know what'll happen to them if they try converting people in Pakistan or the middle east.

what, a little bit of pushback from the dharmis and people just can't believe it... rise of the dharmic reich ?

dhimmi Ram Punyani can eat shit and die

 

[khanmubashir]

Well, he's rightly calling a lot of the bigoted stereotypes against muslims but completely misses the point at the same time. What we're really concerned about here is the expansionist ideology of the Abrahamists.

The Church, who is obsessed with converting people to their religion.. honestly, more than Christ consciousness and the example of Jesus, soul harvesting is their religion.

and fundamentalist sunnis, where hate for us "idolator" pagans and our ways are hard coded into every fibre of their being.

ideally, there should be a clear distinction between individual Muslims and Christians, and their respective expansionist abrahamist ideologies but we can play by their rules too.

fact: the islamic conquest of India was brutal, and the foreign invaders, because they brought a foreign arab ideology with them, caused them to destroy our places of worship.

fact: the church, with their failing presence and empty pews in the west are predators who prey on the poorest of the poor in India (and other countries in Africa and Asia, basically all over the poor world)

we know what'll happen to them if they try converting people in Pakistan or the middle east.

what, a little bit of pushback from the dharmis and people just can't believe it... rise of the dharmic reich ?

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dhimmi Ram Punyani can eat shit and die

An educated Hindu professor refuted hindutva fanatics propaganda by historical references but hindutva fanatic is still stuck with his bigotry
And this Hindutva fanatics propagandists s
Would only cause facture of India .multi ethnic society so Hindutva hulk would only bring down his own India

 

[recon scout]

An educated Hindu professor refuted hindutva fanatics propaganda by historical references but hindutva fanatic is still stuck with his bigotry
And this Hindutva fanatics propagandists s
Would only cause facture of India .multi ethnic society so Hindutva hulk would only bring down his own India

why do you think we're 2 (3) different countries now, genius ?

 

[khanmubashir]

why do you think we're 2 (3) different countries now, genius ?

Partition of India pak was main due to unaccommodating behavior of Hindu leader otherwise jinah first priority was united India with secured muslim rights and if hindutva fanatics would again squeeze Indian miniorites even if doesn't lead to partition it would create civil unrest and and would affect Indian economy and global stature
As Abraham Lincoln said a house divided can't stay strong and muslim r part of Indian house which that professor wanna expalin to uu but u can't get rid of your bigotry

 

[recon scout]

Partition of India pak was main due to unaccommodating behavior of Hindu leader otherwise jinah first priority was united India with secured muslim rights and if hindutva fanatics would again squeeze Indian miniorites even if doesn't lead to partition it would create civil unrest and and would affect Indian economy and global stature
As Abraham Lincoln said a house divided can't stay strong and muslim r part of Indian house which that professor wanna expalin to uu but u can't get rid of your bigotry

Partition of India was a good thing, or eventually we'd have a civil war where casualties would be worse than during partition, you know it too. You can blame unaccommodating "hindu" leaders all you want but the root of it was an invasive foreign ideology that divided the people in the first place.

It is not bigotry to be wary of a foreign IDEOLOGY, one that was destructive when the foreign invaders originally bought it over with them, one that was ultimately responsible for the fracturing of the land from which the modern nation state emerged, and one, that sadly, continues to chip away at both the territorial and cultural integrity of this great old civilization.

This is not about muslims as a people, unlike on your side of the fence, everyone is equal under our constitution here and nobody has a desire to change that, in fact we guard it with out lives... and that is because, not despite India being a majority dharmic peoples' state.

In a way it is quite admirable how the Pakistani people and state hang onto their adopted (but historically speaking, imposed) culture. The soul harvester missionaries don't dare venture into there...

To conclude, yes, there are societal problems and bigotry and sometimes worse directed at the muslims here, don't like it, don't support it, it should not be there but the state is fair in its dealings with the citizenry.

We do need to keep these expansionist desert ideologies in check though.. you guys across the fence can go full saudi, no objections, we have no broblem how you manage your own chunk of land.

namaste !

 

[Joe Shearer]

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@Joe Shearer

There are few Indian including you and Dr. Ram Puniyani still sane....

I am a great fan of this man. He tells the truth, and has exposed bigots for what they are time and again.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

divided the people

Which people?

for the fracturing of the land from which the modern nation state emerged

Like Nepal? Are they closet Hindus? Or Sri Lanka? Or Myanmar?

 

[Hamza913]

why do you think we're 2 (3) different countries now, genius ?

We are not Hindustanis, never have been, never will be. Just because the British decided to lump us all together doesn't mean we identify ourselves with you.

 

[recon scout]

Which people?

from Taxilla to tamil naad, everyone, there are pockets of Abrahamist hives everywhere. The foreign arab ideology divided the people of this land.

Like Nepal? Are they closet Hindus? Or Sri Lanka? Or Myanmar?

Expansionist Abrahamist ideologies, the arab one in particular, can not be compared with the native cultures of the countries you mention.

We are not Hindustanis, never have been, never will be. Just because the British decided to lump us all together doesn't mean we identify ourselves with you.

of course not, in fact you are commanded by your arab desert ideology to "kill us wherever you find us"

 

[Indus Pakistan]

from Taxilla to tamil naad, everyone, there are pockets of Abrahamist hives everywhere. The foreign arab ideology divided the people of this land.

Which is "this land" and "people"? Can you please give me exactly what you are on about? What is it that you are trying to reify?

 

[Hamza913]

course not, in fact you are commanded by your arab desert ideology to "kill us wherever you find us"

This is the main problem. You close minded buffoons can't comprehend following ideals from a different set of people. It's one of the reasons you so vehemently deny the Indo-Aryan migrations, because otherwise that would make Hinduism just as foreign as Islam.

Anyway, just like all Hindustanis, your understanding of Islam appears to be quite shallow, most probably due to your PTSD after 1000 years of Muslims constantly attacking and expanding throughout the region.

 

[SecularNationalist]

We are not Hindustanis, never have been, never will be. Just because the British decided to lump us all together doesn't mean we identify ourselves with you.

You must have been scored higher in pakistan social studies in your class