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While We Sleep The Chinese Prepare For War

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As China gears up for war, President Obama focuses on allowing more Chinese tourists (2) into the USA (3) to stave off a recession – what is wrong with these two world views?

While China promotes the notion of her peaceful rise, one has to wonder.

China has had a contentious relationship with all 14 countries sharing her border as well as those that do not. If the communist party is to be believed, China is a State of peace and harmony.

However, if this is true, why all the advanced weaponry? And if the weapons are to be used as a ‘deterrent’, then why the saber rattling by China’s President and Leader of the Communist Party – Hu Jin Tao?

The bottom line is that as President Obama courts Chinese visitors and our universities court their children, the communists are gearing up for war. Too many people and too few resources make up the toxic mix that will force the Chinese into some sort of confrontation, it’s almost a foregone conclusion.

A Peaceful China?

Unfortunately for China, they share a border with 14 different countries, many of whom fear their rise. Disputes range from claims to the South China Sea, to the islands off the coast of Japan.

In addition to these problems, there is anger over China’s damming of water supplies to many nations. The question one has to ask is whether the Chinese are digging themselves into a hole from which there is no rational escape.

China is humiliated by their recent past. Foreign invaders, according to them, forced addiction upon the masses. They refer to the unfair treaties, which the ‘sons of heaven’ – as the Chinese like to call their leaders – can not still countenance.

The sick old men of Asia, they were called.

But now things have changed. Foreign investment and funds have provided the impetus for astronomical growth and a newfound respect.

An analogy would be that the skinny kid who was always picked on in gym class has grown up over the summer. Perhaps he’s taken some anabolic steroids for good measure, just to look good.

The boy, harboring years of resentment, shows off his new bulk as he cruises his ’74 Nova up and down the strip.

To most of the town, he is still that skinny little kid – but now more dangerous. He is dangerous not for his heft, but for what he believes he must do to prove himself.

For, as the Chinese say, “The nail that sticks up, gets pounded down”. Thus, all of the street cred all of the other bullies previously enjoyed will now come under scrutiny.

“Will they test him or will they back down?”

It’s a question as old as time. As all school yard tough guys know, if you are going to talk the talk, then one day you are going to have to ‘walk the walk’.

Just look at the US in the late 60′s. The Chinese are now setting themselves up for conflict, as an article in the communist party ‘mouthpiece’ Global Times best exemplifies:
“China, concentrating on interior development and harmony, has been ultimately merciful….We shouldn’t waste the opportunity to launch some tiny-scale battles that could deter provocateurs from going further…. could just be an ideal place to punish them…. I believe the constant military drill and infringement provide no better excuse for China to strike back…. being rational and restrained will always be our guidance on this matter. We should make good preparations for a small-scale battle while giving the other side the option of war or peace (4).”
Border Problems
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A major problem is that the Chinese are alienating a considerable amount of her neighbors. Problems with the Japanese (5), Vietnamese (6) and Philippines (7) are some of the more obvious disputes, not to mention Taiwan. And then there is India (8), a country with whom they waged a local conflict 50 years ago (9).

The range of the disputes vary, but at its heart is the fundamental issue, “Do we trust China?”. And based upon the response of those countries bordering her, the answer is a resounding “no we do not”.

The problem has gotten so grave that military assistance is being requested (10) of the USA from more (11) countries than one (12).

At issue, aside from China’s increasing hawk-like rhetoric, is her military growth. China wields a veritable hodge podge of “purloined US tech (13)”. The seas around China now are littered with submarines equipped with the latest innovations “borrowed” from other nations.

As if this were not enough, the sick old man of the orient has got himself a new “can”, or aircraft carrier. A resuscitated cold war relic that was purchased under the auspices of becoming a casino (14) has been retrofitted to be a tool of war.

The air is not safe, or so they say, as a knockoff US stealth fighter (15) has been developed, and a helicopter (16) as well. With all of this buildup, it is little wonder that her neighbors fear China’s rise.

Could it be that all of this hardware of destruction is necessary to support China’s “peaceful” rise, as stated by the Chinese?
“First of all, China is taking the road of peaceful development, unlike certain Western countries that evolved into world powers through military expansion. Wars are no longer the theme of the times. By contrast, China has quickly enhanced its comprehensive national strength and international status by adhering to peaceful development. (17)”
 
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China – Once a War Nation, Always a War Nation

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While it is popular and politically correct to say that the People’s Republic of China is experiencing a ‘peaceful rise’, but her history tells a different story.

Over the past 2500 years, China has warred for two millennia, while it has been at peace for merely 500 years – harmonious society indeed.

And things do not seem to be getting better. Chinese-on-Chinese violence has accounted for more deaths than both World Wars combined. And a good part of that was by the hands of the regime still ruling to this day.

For all her talk about peace and harmony, one has to wonder.

Another issue propelling China into a horrible eventuality is resources, or lack thereof.

With twenty percent of the world’s population and less than ten percent of its arable land, much of which has been turned into a toxic bog, China needs more resources. They cannot produce enough grains (18), meat, pork nor oil to meet their needs.

And just like all dictators, the Chinese communists fear revolt. The clamoring masses require access to things the Chinese alone, do not possess.

As the good times wane and bellies groan for sustenance, the Chinese are forced to look outwards. Their presence in Africa and business dealings with the world’s leading despots is a testament as to how far they can and must go to secure raw materials.

As far as the U.S. home front is concerned, the rise of China is no big deal. After all, if the truth were told, some may question companies moving our R&D to a growing empire some have likened to Nazi Germany (19).

I would not be as bold in my assertions over China, but would definitely be mindful of them. Yet, I wonder about the US and how trusting we are of communist China and her front companies (20), in light of what they have said and done.

The Chinese have proven their ability to penetrate our most secure resources and skill at heisting our secrets. As if this were not enough, we are allowing them control over our Internet and data transmissions.

Huawei, Alleged Communist Spy Front Comes to the Heartland


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An example of our ignorance and trust of communist China can be seen by the inroads of China’s Huawei, an alleged front for the communist party.

This company, which sells routers and thus controls access to the Internet, has set up shop in Texas and Michigan. Huawei has been accused of spying (21), espionage and being a Chinese tool of information destruction – should war ever break out.

From the UK (22) to India, distrust over Huawei’s true intentions abound. The most often cited reason cited are its ties to the communist party (23). As a matter of fact, even the US government has severe reservations citing:
“A U.S. intelligence report for the first time links China’s largest telecommunications company to Beijing’s KGB-like intelligence service and says the company recently received nearly a quarter-billion dollars from the Chinese government.24”

Huawei part of Chinese spy network, says R&AW (25):

“NEW DELHI: Chinese telecom major Huawei may aggressively deny any link to the China’s People’s Liberation Army, but independent assessments of Indian intelligence agencies so far clearly point out that PLA remains a customer of the company and has become more involved with it.

The security concerns of Indian intelligence agencies about Huawei’s close connection with the Chinese security establishment are shared by the US administration and had led the latter to cancel Huawei’s 2008 bid to pick up stake in 3Com (26).”


How wise is it to lighten restrictions on Chinese students, immigrants and business people when by their own admission they are preparing for war?

Do we really trust companies like Huawei, whose reclusive leader Ren Zhengfie is an ex-Chinese military officer and member of the communist party (27)?

Yes, the leader of the Chinese company we have chosen to manage our data transmissions is a proud Red Army officer and communist. Before you confuse communist party membership with other ideologies such as Democrats and Republicans, you must understand the realities of communism in China.

To China, the party is like god (28), it is everywhere. Rather than being ‘just’ a political entity, it’s more like the mafia. It’s secrecy, corruption and control have more in common with organized crime than political ideologies. Communism, like the mafia, is blood in-blood out. What could be more telling than the fact that one of the harshest punishments for a communist party member is to lose their communist party privileges for life?

With all the concerns surrounding Huawei (29), one has to wonder why Michigan has outsourced data transmissions (30) to the global pariah.

Huawei’s entry into the US market is symbolic of either our naivete or ignorance. As the Chinese gear up for 21st century war, we idly poke through ‘made in China’ goods and disregard their actions while stomaching their rhetoric.

War, like ignorance, should be avoided at all costs.

As for the Chinese and harmony, we can only hope that by some miracle they come to their senses and realize that aggressive behavior will do little more than upset the economic apple cart and good thing they have going. But until we are sure of their true intentions, we must remain alert.

“…virtually everyone in the cybersecurity world is quick to state and that Huawei itself concedes. In a world in which hacking is proliferating, no company or government agency wants to risk giving potential enemies the means to access its network by buying vulnerable equipment. (31)”

While We Sleep The Chinese Prepare For War | Top Secret Writers
 
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LOL, It would probably take one attack by China against any of its 14 neighbor enemies for all the rest to band up and defend. But the fear will remain is China will use its nuclear arsenal thinking that if I am going down I'll take a whole bunch with me. China is starting to become a rogue state and as the article indicates a street bully who was a traumatized kid in the past.
 
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Wow, some real antiques in those images :rolleyes:

Sure the author knows what year this is?
 
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Hu Jintao and the Varyag are antiques, are they now? :azn:
LOL, the Hu Jintao image is from ~2002. You can see from his hair and face how much he's aged in the past 10 years. The bicycle images are from the 80's. You can ask any Chinese PDF member about those bicycles and they will laugh and think about how good the air quality was back then before when there were few private cars. As for the Varyag, if the author thinks that image shows "decrepit weak China" then that just shows ignorance of military affairs. All ships look disgusting when they are built. But when they are fully done they look like this:

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Yes, we are going to war! We are going to war not because we are particularly aggressive, but because we are a superpower, and superpower have a right to "influence" their neighbors, and a right to punish them when influence doesn't work.

We are simply going to war against our hostile neighbors such as india and Vietnam, put them in their place, because we have the power to blow them away now with our industrialized economy and high technology -- just like the Anglos did back when they expanded like crazy.

Classic 19th century, baby, classic 19th century...... China rules the waves :)
 
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You do know what vietnam did in combodia and laos dont you. That was much cruel what japan did in Nanjing
 
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You do know what imperial vietnam did in combodia and laos dont you. That was much cruel what japan did in Nanjing
Yes, Vietnam is a cruel country. So that's why East Asia needs a strong China to protect the weak against the strong, and fend off Western imperial influence.

:china:
 
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LOL, It would probably take one attack by China against any of its 14 neighbor enemies for all the rest to band up and defend. But the fear will remain is China will use its nuclear arsenal thinking that if I am going down I'll take a whole bunch with me. China is starting to become a rogue state and as the article indicates a street bully who was a traumatized kid in the past.

Okay, I'll bite. Who's coming to help India if China attacks tomorrow?
 
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You do know what imperial vietnam did in combodia and laos dont you. That was much cruel what japan did in Nanjing
Dude, lots of VNese living in Laos-Cambodia for very long time already, and Laos Prime Minister Kaysone Phomvihane was VNese too , so no reason for us to we massacre our brothers.
 
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when the economy of any nation grows,more capital comes in and its much likely that nation invest that capital in waging war with neighbors.
so we will see same with china like we saw with usa and ussr
 
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Yes, Vietnam is a cruel country. So that's why East Asia needs a strong China to protect the weak against the strong, and fend off Western imperial influence.

:china:

All the so called ' weak ' countries dont want China to bully them. Dont tell me china must be strong to protect Russia..:lol:
 
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when the economy of any nation grows,more capital comes in and its much likely that nation invest that capital in waging war with neighbors.
so we will see same with china like we saw with usa and ussr

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By Keith B. Richburg, Published: December 15

BEIJING — As the U.S. military on Thursday formally ended its intervention in Iraq and prepared to withdraw the last of its combat troops, China was watching warily and with deep concern about where those troops might go next.

The worry here is that an American military free of the nearly nine-year-long commitment to Iraq might now be freer to focus attention on the Asia-Pacific region, which China considers its back yard. In the past month, China has seen the Obama administration promise a pivot to Asia, with the establishment of a new U.S. military base in Darwin, on Australia’s northern coast, and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s visit to Burma, also known as Myanmar, which China considers an ally.


The U.S. military has formally shut down the war in Iraq, officially retiring the flag of U.S. Forces-Iraq. Troops lowered the flag and wrapped it in camouflage, formally "casing" it, according to Army tradition. (Dec. 15)

The U.S. military has formally shut down the war in Iraq, officially retiring the flag of U.S. Forces-Iraq. Troops lowered the flag and wrapped it in camouflage, formally "casing" it, according to Army tradition. (Dec. 15)


The eight-year U.S. military operation in Iraq, now winding down with the withdrawal of the last U.S. forces, produced these enduring images.


“In the past three or four weeks, the United States has launched so many initiatives so quickly,” said Shi Yinhong, a professor and director at the Center for American Studies at Renmin University in Beijing. “The motivation is to deal with China. This is a really significant new phase in America’s policy toward China.”

For the past decade, China has been free to focus on its economic development without concern about any major confrontation with the United States, as the foreign policy under the George W. Bush and Obama administrations focused almost exclusively on Iraq and the larger fight against terrorism.

Now, with the U.S. withdrawal from Iraq and the planned 2014 drawdown of troops from Afghanistan, Chinese officials are bracing to see whether President Obama’s announced refocusing on Asia presages an era of tense relations between China and the United States.

“America is now shifting its focus from the Middle East and South Asia to East Asia, from counterterrorism to dealing with emerging powers,” said Yuan Peng, director of the Institute of American Studies, part of the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations, which is affiliated with the Foreign Ministry. “Maybe China will be the new focus. This is a very typical Chinese way of thinking.”

Yuan said the Iraq withdrawal “signals that counterterrorism as the only focus of your security strategy in the last 10 years has changed.” Now, he said, “the focus of strategic thinking, the center of gravity, is shifting from West to East.”

“It’s already become a reality that you’re here — you’re back,” he said. “The following question is: What’s that for? Is it for encircling or containing China?”

China also benefited materially from the war in Iraq. In 2008, two Chinese oil companies signed contracts worth $3 billion with the Iraqi government for oil exploration rights. PetroChina, China’s biggest oil company and an arm of the state-owned China National Petroleum Corp., is developing the Halfaya and Rumaila oil fields in southern Iraq.

The Iraq war helped deepen lingering anti-Americanism here among some Chinese, who view the United States as a “hegemonist” power bent on using its military for global domination. Experts said the sentiment was different during the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, because that came after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks by al-Qaeda plotters based in Afghanistan — and people in China believed the United States had a right to respond.

Some here said the 2003 Iraq invasion, based on the false premise that dictator Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction, has made it more difficult for the United States to press its case against Iran developing a nuclear weapon.

But what was most unnerving may have been the prospect of seeing the United States send combat troops halfway around the world to overthrow a government and impose a fledgling democracy in the heart of the Middle East.

“Through the Iraq war, you’ve planted the seeds of democracy,” Yuan said. “Then you can see the Jasmine Revolution, the Arab Spring. . . . It changed the mind-set of the young generation.”

“In the long run, it’s in your interest because there’s a trend of democracy,” he said. “No one in China thinks it’s a big failure.”

Something to know about
 
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Okay, I'll bite. Who's coming to help India if China attacks tomorrow?

Have a look:

Nehru pleaded for US help against China in 1962 - Times Of India

India begged both the USSR and the USA to save them during the 1962 war.

But neither one came. Even though at that time (1960's) China was an enemy of BOTH the USSR and the USA, having recently fought the Korean war with America and the Sino-Soviet split with the USSR. Also, China at that time was just coming out of the worst famine in Chinese history (which only ended in 1961).

So despite them both being our enemies, and China being at its weakest point in history, neither the USA or the USSR came to save India.

Today, the USA is our largest trading partner, with their top officials calling for a "G-2" with China. And Russia is now our ally, and also a co-founder of the SCO along with China.
 
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