Which dictator killed the most people (own)?

[jamahir]

When you have a weapon you have to use it sometimes. If you don't people don't respect you or it anymore.

That is quite a ruthless, dismissive, war-mongering and imperialist statement.

British Raj was beneficial: PM

Dr. Singh said India's struggle for independence was more an assertion by Indians of their 'natural right to self-governance' than an outright rejection of the 'British claim to good governance.'

m.rediff.com

We have to see this in context.

Even I an anti-imperialist, Communist agree that the British did bring a few good things to India, not only those that Manmohan Singh mentioned but also those like the banning of the Upper Caste Hindu ordained practice of Sati where a Hindu widow would be burned alive on her dead husband's pyre. And the British system allowed for Dalits like Ambedkar to become better educated and organized. Ambedkar later became the co-writer of modern India's Constitution and this work was an advancement over much of India's previous socio-economic structure and Ambedkar was in a good position to understand it having suffered by it through being a Lower Caste Hindu, a Dalit, an "Untouchable".

However, Manmohan Singh, when PM, wrongly said that the biggest internal threat to India was not the right-wing Hindutvadi thought but the long-standing left-wing Naxalite guerrilla movement who are fighting the state in the jungles and mountains of India. The Naxals are also called Maoists because of their inspiration from Mao's revolution. And tragically for India it is currently the Hindutvadi thought governing India which has maintained India's socio-economic injustices like Mukesh Ambani's 27-storey "house" in Bombay, which has an internal Hindu temple, while in rest of India people are thrust upon with things like hunger, homelessness, curable blindness and other such things.

Indians will never understand the ground-shaking, nerve-racking, and history-changing effects of a revolution. They just lack the vigor and rigor.

They are soft, passive, submissive and darwish-like in their domestic political attitude. Hence, Gandhi. That's the best they can have.

Sorry you are incorrect. India has had socialist / communist activism almost as old as the revolution in Russia, and one manifestation of which is the Naxalite movement I wrote of above. I will give the example of Bhagat Singh who was hanged by the British in 1931 at the age of 23. He was much inspired by Marx and Lenin and had individual thought as well. I will quote from a recent thread of mine on him :

I will conclude with the last moments of Bhagat Singh’s life, as reported by his close associate Manmathnath Gupta, he writes:

“When called upon to mount the scaffold, Bhagat Singh was reading a book by Lenin or on Lenin. He continued his reading and said, ‘Wait a while. A revolutionary is talking to another revolutionary’. Bhagat Singh continued to read. After a few moments, he flung the book towards the ceiling and said, ‘Let us go’.” [Emphasis added]

Please read the rest of the OP and the thread.

And this is also a thread of mine about British-time pre-1947 socialist / communist activism among the Muslims in India.

At present since the 2016 events in left-dominated JNU university in Delhi, socialism / communism has seen a resurgence in India, especially among the youth. This has also been driven by the tragic suicide of a Dalit student Rohith Vemula in Hyderabad University campus. And the leftists have been joined by other progressives.

And on PDF I do my best to speak about Socialism and Communism, Indian and global, which you too know. I have recently proposed a new economic system whose basis is Communism and which you can read in this thread.

 

[Nadeem Ganjum]

Why is Imran Khan is missing from the list. He tried to killed 200 milling Pakistanis by importing COVID from Iran on purpose.
He kept pushing zairin to Iran for months, when Iran was boiling with COVID.

The post is about the actual number of ppl killed, what is IK doing here?

 

[charene514]

Every one likes to bang chinese whenever they are available !

First japanese did then to top it off, Mao finished the rest No wonder they retreated to jungles and ate dogs !

 

[Marker]

It took American 25000 marines lives just to take a few island from Imperial Japan.

Japan high level command order full defending of Japan against allies. Basically asking all civilian to be sandbag or kamikaze live bomb to deter US.

Imagine US want to take tokyo, how long and how many lives need to be sacrifice? The Japanese civilian casualty will be very high for defending of Tokyo. Definitely more than the 2 atomic bomb combined.

Atomic bomb dropped by US in fact saves live , not killing more.

There is no justification to drop nukes on two cities killing millions of innocent humans.

Japan could have been forced to surrender by dropping the nuke bomb closer to sea shore and displaying its lethality.

 

[Beast]

There is no justification to drop nukes on two cities killing millions of innocent humans.

Japan could have been forced to surrender by dropping the nuke bomb closer to sea shore and displaying its lethality.

Lol. U think Japanese will be scared by dropping by seaside?

US could have dropped at heavy crowd city of Tokyo or Nagoya but they didn't.

 

[Marker]

Every one likes to bang chinese whenever they are available !

First japanese did then to top it off, Mao finished the rest No wonder they retreated to jungles and ate dogs !

What about "MahaBharat"?
Alexander invaded India and captured northern part of subcontinent from Hindu rulers.
Muhammad bin Qasim advent Sindh and defeated Raja Dahir.
Mehmood Ghaznavi attacked and looted the Hindus 17 times.
Many Muslim rulers came and rule the northern part of subcontinent.
Mughal rulers rule India for centuries.
Then came the British raj.
Dismemberment of "MahaBharat", Pakistan, India and many other small states become independent states.

Rise and fall is a cyclic process. At one time, China was considered root of power and wealth. Famous Silk road was consequence of trade between rich China and west.

Now again China is rising in every field and strangely at very fast rate which not only disturbing Indian regime but also US and its western allies.

 

[beijingwalker]

India under British rule
Famine had been a recurrent feature of life the Indian sub-continental countries of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, most notoriously during British rule. Famines in India resulted in more than 60 million deaths over the course of the 18th, 19th, and early 20th centuries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine_in_India





Britain is responsible for deaths of 35 million Indians, says acclaimed author Shashi Tharoor

Britain responsible the deaths of 35 million Indians, politician who says we need to face up to colonial past points out

The Congress MP also calls for the Victoria Memorial in Kolkata to be turned into a museum about colonial rule

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Marker]

Lol. U think Japanese will be scared by dropping by seaside?

US could have dropped at heavy crowd city of Tokyo or Nagoya but they didn't.

You may hold your own opinion, but for me use of nukes on two cities was totally unnecessary to attain the required outcome.

Japan was in no position to face the nuke threat. Display of nuke explosion near the shore of Japan would have been more than enough to convince the Japanese regime to surrender without any resistance.

 

[nahtanbob]

100 million Native Americans killed by white people
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Can anyone provide some evidence that so many Chinese were killed?
Does anyone know what happens when 500 million people starve and 70 million die?
One in seven people is starved to death？

the number of native americans was at most 50 million. most of them survived

 

[beijingwalker]

the number of native americans was at most 50 million. most of them survived

Denevan writes that, "The discovery of America was followed by possibly the greatest demographic disaster in the history of the world." Research by some scholars provides population estimates of the pre-contact Americas to be as high as 112 million in 1492.

 

[nahtanbob]

There is no justification to drop nukes on two cities killing millions of innocent humans.

Japan could have been forced to surrender by dropping the nuke bomb closer to sea shore and displaying its lethality.

get your facts straight. both the nukes on Japan killed a maximum of 225,000 people including several thousand soldiers

Denevan writes that, "The discovery of America was followed by possibly the greatest demographic disaster in the history of the world." Research by some scholars provides population estimates of the pre-contact Americas to be as high as 112 million in 1492.

You can selectively quote anyone you want. Most Indian tribes in North America did not cultivate crops the way Indian and Chinese civilizations.

China's population was around 100 million in 1600

It must suck Mao can send 30 million Chinese to death and you have to lick his boots

 

[fitpOsitive]

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So if a person kills many people, its only a crime if he is so called dictator?
Churchill should also be the part of this list. Will top this list.

 

[gulli]

Donald Trump is killing 2% of the US population (10% left with permanent respiratory, heart and brain damage) by advising people to inject themselves with chlorine

Only Chinese can make such comment, people are dying all over the world and in China too.. Have some shame.

 

[beijingwalker]

You can selectively quote anyone you want. Most Indian tribes in North America did not cultivate crops the way Indian and Chinese civilizations.

China's population was around 100 million in 1600

It must suck Mao can send 30 million Chinese to death and you have to lick his boots

Haha, calling me selecting quotes, didn't you do this all the time about China?

 

[sjalal19]

And no mention of 100 million Native Americans killed by white people, besides how many millions human killed in Heroshima& Nagasaki atom bombing and illegal wars in Iraq & Afghanistan by America.
White lives & Jews matter