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Where is democracy...??

I dearly hope & pray PA takes over for Pakistan. There is no DEMOCRACY in Pakistan there is only DEMOCRAZY.
This term proudly introduced by batmannow , who isthe deadliest enemy of it?
nice to see you around sir!
 
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not for personal gains? it is only a military guy who even after getting retired gets lucrative posts

This is reward of service like other fields ... And this is need to live ... But you couldn't find a guy who will sacrifice his life just for a job :azn:

Even the average common man can get perks and social benefits only if the civilian governments, institutions, policy makers and parliamentarians were working at atleast 85% efficiency for 10 years at least.
 
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Even the average common man can get perks and social benefits only if the civilian governments, institutions, policy makers and parliamentarians were working at atleast 85% efficiency for 10 years at least.
10 years of what sir?
this croupted system called DAMOCRAZY?
 
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10 years of what sir?
this croupted system called DAMOCRAZY?

I am just giving an example. If the civilian governments were working like i said above even for 5 years, things would have been different on the ground now for the average common man on the street.

But why should they work with 85% efficiency? For who?
 
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It seems that soft coup has begun and democracy will be botched up :lol:
Nice to see you patriot!

I am just giving an example. If the civilian governments were working like i said above even for 5 years, things would have been different on the ground now for the average common man on the street.
Sir,
thats avery common factor but, we should be thinking what we can do to make it working, cause going through the same rattled system wont bring the magic we are looking for?
 
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It seems that soft coup has begun and democracy will be botched up :lol:

Wrong, i think Democracy is being strengthen by this 21st Amendment.

Politicians acknowledging their limitations and Army agrees to work within constitutional boundaries for the first time....does it ever happens in Past:disagree:


All Moderate political forces(PPP, ANP, PMLN, MQM & other nationalist parties) are being seen by Army as Real deep state cloumns and thier true partners for future instead of religious parties.....does it ever happens in past.:disagree:

Democratic forces sees Army as their real bulwark force against militancy instead of a mere power hungry institution need to be oppose at every level....does it ever happens in past.:disagree:


So, All in all Due to this change mindset at both politicians and at Army, Pakistan is somehow moving forward towards real democracy and leaving behind religious anarchism only, that's a very very good sign for Pakistan's Future.:agree:
 
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Prove the crouption of fauj?
& it was the same croupt fauj that put MQM in power to do the crouption in karachi in thier days?
ishrat ul ibad & mustafa kamal were the wrost examples of crouption along side with thier master fauj?
I guss, you need some speciall medecine from altaf bhai , s kohlapuri chappal?

fauj didn't put MQM, MQM won the highest number of seats in Sindh, and ishrat ul ibad was made governor because MQM was not allowed to have CM (PMLQ) so under compromise karachi and hyderabad's administration was given to ishrat ul ibad as governor

Even the average common man can get perks and social benefits only if the civilian governments, institutions, policy makers and parliamentarians were working at atleast 85% efficiency for 10 years at least.

perks like working for ever like never getting retired?
 
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fauj didn't put MQM, MQM won the highest number of seats in Sindh, and ishrat ul ibad was made governor because MQM was not allowed to have CM (PMLQ) so under compromise karachi and hyderabad's administration was given to ishrat ul ibad as governor



perks like working for ever like never getting retired?
If the civis cant work what shall we do ?
close the dam country?
 
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If the civis cant work what shall we do ?
close the dam country?

lets not experiment with this country at regular intervals

in my opinion 4 times dictatorship came and eventually proved fatal for this country

so as i said no more experiments, leave the country as it is, its better than making fatal experiments again and again
 
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not for personal gains? it is only a military guy who even after getting retired gets lucrative posts
Hi,
I would have loved to have a healthy debate with you about your clouded judgement on army, but when I say 52 Negative ratings I held myself back.

Realized you aint worth it
 
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Hi,
I would have loved to have a healthy debate with you about your clouded judgement on army, but when I say 52 Negative ratings I held myself back.

Realized you aint worth it

lets not get whiny, as if im dying to have a debate with you?
 
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lets not experiment with this country at regular intervals

in my opinion 4 times dictatorship came and eventually proved fatal for this country

so as i said no more experiments, leave the country as it is, its better than making fatal experiments again and again
Lets make that other way around so many times of damocrazy & result big zero? Lolzz
 
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Lets make that other way around so many times of damocrazy & result big zero? Lolzz

atleast in democracy pakistan didn't lose wars, and in democracy pakistan didn't get broken? losing east pakistan, losing siachen, and now in musharraf's time balochistan started thinking about separation

so please, we don't want our country to be reduced to Punjab

dictatorship comes and people think that pakistani dictator will bring a revolution and clean up the mess but we always had dictators who protected corrupt politicians and feudal system, will do something about poor people of pakistan, how many dictators did that?

the reason being the top military men also have their roots in the age old feudal system just like any other big politician

no dictator finished feudal system for instance,

so it is useless to talk about democracy vs dictatorship, both have been a failure
 
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