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Where are friends of Libya now?

Aryan.

The 'friends of Libya' got Qaddafi down and their oil supplies neutralized. Their industries are safe now and oil supply is normal.
Their agenda and demands are met, why else should they bother? I see no reason.
 
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you didn't understand at all what was happening so i suggest you to read some facts before:
- there was some resolution by UNO , so why Western armies would go beyond , such beyond this resolution and come on the land of Libya to do whatever they want without invitation of Libyan people? non sense
- the people of Libya asked for humanitarian help to save them from a massacre from a crazy dictator, like Asad in Syria, who get such blood on his hands but some people in this forum are still proud of him (lol )


That's precisely the problem with the US/NATO alliance taking sides within the demographic make up of a country and unilateral decide who is the good leader and who is not for their people. They are not qualified to be that judge because they are so immense with their cultural and political superiority and discount others of have one. If they do realize people live differently from them, Saddam Husein would be still here with a stable Iraq.
 
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That's how they are. Those self righteous hypocrites always mess up one country after another thinking they're doing god's works and disappear just as fast. Now they just go home and wash off all their blood in their hands and change clothes and become friends of Syria.


it seems to be never ending. what next Iran then Pakistan then where??

When a nation or a group of nations assist to rid of a leader of another nation, she/they have the sole responsibility to stabilize that country until she gets back on her feet. It's the same when a man impregnates a girl he has to take the responsibilities.


lol that is one way of looking at it

I have put the post below on a number of threads and on no occasion has anyone rebutted anything I have stated and as far as I am concerned it stands:

I have heard the argument about human rights and killings going on in Syria but quite frankly it is very difficult in the fog of civil war or any war to actually get to the truth of the matter.

Let me tell you why I would be more than reluctant to support anyone in Syria

If it is a true revolution and even a significant minority wish to come out on the streets a country is ungovernable. Lets take the example of Pakistan. Our population is reputed to be 180 million people. If just 20% of the people decide that they want to come out on the streets that would be be 36 million. We have one of the largest standing armies in the world, we have our blessed ISI we have nukes. Even with these forces and nukes what could our army do??? Use nukes on our own people?? That would be the end. You will note it does not even require a majority to come on the streets. In practical terms the overwhelming number of people want to have security, a roof on their head and food on the table and could not give a monkey's who runs the country.

Now lets take the example of Libya-The rebels or whatever you want to call them could barely get out of Benghazi even though they were being funded and armed by third parties from outside the country. I am off the firm opinion in hindsight that Gaddaffi was less than wise because I think it is likely he would have done relatively well in any election and he should have attempted to legitamise his rule.

Had it not been for Nato's role in my opinion it is doubtful that the rebels could have succeeded.

Even after intervention we have a very unstable Libya wwith west stealing oil

Now lets look at UK and US in recent months we have had riots and civil disobedience. These disturbances have been dismissed as the actions of criminals and undesirables. If a foreign power was to lets say start supplying weapons and moral support these so called criminals and undesirables what could or would happen??

One mans rebel is another man's criminal and undesirable.

Who decides what the majority in a country wants in Syria?? Who decides that Assad is a dictator and must be removed whilst at the same time ignoring what is happening in Bahrain?? Who decides when to support dissident voices in a country. I mean every country has voices that don't agree with their government.

I could go on but you might get bored but you get the picture I hope.

The best we can do is pray for and hope is that the Syrian people themselves decide with as little bloodshed as possible a conclusion to the unrest.

Under these circumstances Syria does not need these "friends"
 
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How is it friends' fault if they (the Libyans) can't agree with each other on anything?

They got the means to talk, not my problem if they dont know how.

Friends should not support another party give them weapons to destroy their adversaries

Then whoever is left fighting, pick on more side and keep destroying.

This is how western support works. Destroy you to the atomic form, then see if you can further be split into electrons, protons, neutrons.
 
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HAHAHAHAHAHA LOL?
They had no friends, Nato killed gadaffi because who knew things they did not want him to share.
they bombed the countries infrastructure on purpose, so Libya will pay the west to come rebuild it for them while they get their hands on the countries oil.
 
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Friends should not support another party give them weapons to destroy their adversaries

Then whoever is left fighting, pick on more side and keep destroying.

This is how western support works. Destroy you to the atomic form, then see if you can further be split into electrons, protons, neutrons.

and then they split you into quarks...and they claim to be doing it for humanitarian purposes.
 
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Aryan.

The 'friends of Libya' got Qaddafi down and their oil supplies neutralized. Their industries are safe now and oil supply is normal.
Their agenda and demands are met, why else should they bother? I see no reason.


We should call them friends of oil or ulterior motives lol
 
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Libya resolution: UN security council air strikes vote - as it happened
• UN security council approves Libya military action
• US and Britain support air strikes to protect civilians
• Gaddafi declares: 'There will be no mercy' in Benghazi
• Qatar and UAE governments may add forces

These were the headlines back then. So, yeah very unilateral and unjustified right? :cheesy: lolz
 
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These were the headlines back then. So, yeah very unilateral and unjustified right? :cheesy: lolz

Your posts have little merit if any. They serve no useful purpose other than bump up a thread which should be discussed. And your caricatures are not funny and also superfluous to the discussion
 
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Your posts have little merit if any. They serve no useful purpose other than bump up a thread which should be discussed. And your caricatures are not funny and also superfluous to the discussion

Yeah, nevermind the fact that your vision of events cant stand up to unbiased scrutiny.

Refute with sources what i posted or stop being a biased uneducated troll.
 
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you didn't understand at all what was happening so i suggest you to read some facts before:
- there was some resolution by UNO , so why Western armies would go beyond , such beyond this resolution and come on the land of Libya to do whatever they want without invitation of Libyan people? non sense
- the people of Libya asked for humanitarian help to save them from a massacre from a crazy dictator, like Asad in Syria, who get such blood on his hands but some people in this forum are still proud of him (lol )


Why don't you go to Libya and helped them to sort it out. They need your help. Give them lessons of Democracy, representative form of Govt.
 
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How have 100's been saved? I just do not accept that. But hey what does it matter Libya's oil is being stolen now so west is happy
Each coin has 2 sides...there are 2 things one good and one bad...Gadaffi killed massacring stopped....Gadaffi gone..domestic problems come.
If Gadaffi hadn't been killed the mass murders would have gone on..you support that?
 
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Interesting article on how people are still being killed in Libya. Syrians should take note and be careful of countries pretending to be friends with ulterior motives

Renewed clashes between Libyan militias, 26 dead

Published: 04 April, 2012, 18:00
Edited: 05 April, 2012, 02:07

At least 26 people have been killed as violence flares up once again in the western Libyan town of Zwara.

*This comes after tensions sparked over the weekend between the Arab-majority town of Ragdalein and the Berber-dominated town of Zwara, about 110 kilometers west of the capital Tripoli.

The violence is fuelled by deep-rooted animosity between the neighbors, who took different sides in Libya's civil war that toppled Muammar Gaddafi last year.

The clashes had escalated by Tuesday, with militia groups opening tank and artillery fire on each other. At least 22 people died in the fighting.

The National Transitional Council (NTC), which took power after Gaddafi's capture and killing in October, has struggled to stamp its authority on the country and rein in the myriad armed groups that helped defeat the Colonel's forces but have refused to disarm.

These local rivalries threaten to divide Libya along tribal and regional lines.


sitting on oil deposits, rest was never their problem !!
 
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