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LOOKING BACK: Jeddah's Gabil Street in 1920 and Bab Makkah, below, in 1918.

JEDDAH: MOHANNAD SHARAWI

Published — Thursday 28 November 2013

Last update 28 November 2013 1:01 am

Women drove cars in the 1950s in Jeddah, according to an expert on the history of the city and longtime resident.
Wasef Kabli said he used to drive with his father often from Makkah to Jeddah in a 1954 Chevrolet Caprice. It was during these road trips that he saw women driving vehicles in the city with their families.
Kabli also recalled that there were many cinema theaters for families in the 1970s that screened documentary and popular films.
Kabli was reminiscing about the old city at a weekly cultural meeting held recently at the residence of Abdul Mohsen Al-Qahtani, where Adnan Al-Yafi, a social activist and expert, introduced a lecture on Jeddah’s history.
Among those present were several well-known Jeddah residents, social activists, historians, diplomats and journalists.
Al-Yafi spoke about several of the city's ancient sites, its pre-Islamic history and the association of its name with the purported grave of “Ummana Hawa” (Our Mother Eve).
Al-Yafi quoted several historians and writers, including Yaqoot Al-Hamawi, who argued that Jeddah was one of the world's oldest cities
; and that the Quraish used the wood from an old shipwreck to build the Kaaba, long before the advent of Islam.
Al-Yafi said many critical events had taken place in the city, making it an important part of the history of the Arabian Peninsula. Al-Yafi said Al-Hareth bin Noufal was the first Muslim governor during the reign of the Islamic caliphate. He said the oldest urban monument in Jeddah was the 800-year-old minaret of Al-Shafe’i Mosque in the Balad area.
“A number of Western and Arab travelers passed through or stopped in Jeddah, and wrote a lot about the city. This includes Ibn Battuta, Ibn Jubair, the Indian traveler Maulana Rafiuddin Muradabadi, the French national Mursi Tamizeh in 1834 and the Englishman Richard Burton in 1853,” said Al-Yafi.
Al-Yafi displayed some pictures of an old building in Al-Baghdadiyah district, which some people claimed, was an old church. Al-Yafi said the building was initially built by Sheikh Mohammad Abdu Al-Jihani and was a kind of rest house, but never a church. He said it was true that there was a cemetery for Christians in southern Jeddah near the electricity market, known only by old residents of the city.
There was an open discussion and question-and-answer session after the lecture. Hamid Al-Rabea’e, head of the Makkah Literary Club, said many books written by Westerners about Jeddah focused on the places and sites, more so than its residents. He urged modern historians and writers to tackle the social, humanitarian and community life of the old city. Misha’al Al-Harthi echoed this view.
Jamal Burhan, a social activist, said the history of the city should be included in the curricula of schools. He said the Saudi government has done a great deal to document the country's history through various projects supported by Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah.
Al-Yafi said the city was more accommodating in the past. He said a Greek expatriate named Hristo Dolo, also known as Khawajah Yanni, who owned a grocery shop in Jeddah more than 60 years ago, did not sell alcohol and closed for prayers long before there were any laws requiring people to do so, said Al-Yafi.
“Many people don’t know that Yanni had a great deal of respect for Islam and also fasted in Ramadan. These bright aspects of Jeddah's history show how old Jeddawis were open to other cultures and were able to coexist with different nationalities, cultures, races and religions.” he said.

When Jeddah was much more open | Arab News — Saudi Arabia News, Middle East News, Opinion, Economy and more.
 
Well whats gone is gone. I am living in Jeddah for the last 4 years. Leave women driving and cinema beside. Can you tell if there is a public park in this metropolitan city?
 
Jeddah is a metropole and old city, but it has a Cornish.

BATMAN it is an excellent city no doubt. A corniche, lot of job opportunities, good salaries and even lower living costs. It just lacks on the variety in recreation ssector. May be it won't be too tough if we don't compare it with other metropolitan cities.
 
BATMAN it is an excellent city no doubt. A corniche, lot of job opportunities, good salaries and even lower living costs. It just lacks on the variety in recreation ssector. May be it won't be too tough if we don't compare it with other metropolitan cities.

I know what you mean, I have been in Jeddah for short visits, driving around in traffic.
In general, the culture in port cities is different, they tend to build city along the beach and develop beaches as recreation/parks.
I agree that country like Saudi Arabia should have a theme park like Disney land in every city, but you know they have more priority to build football stadium, which may be boring for us.

I think you mean " Jeddah Corniche ".
You got it right!
 
BATMAN it is an excellent city no doubt. A corniche, lot of job opportunities, good salaries and even lower living costs. It just lacks on the variety in recreation ssector. May be it won't be too tough if we don't compare it with other metropolitan cities.

My friend KSA is not Las Vegas.
What kind of recreation are you interested in? You can do almost everything. Go visit the beautiful and tropical Red Sea, one of the 1150 tropical Saudi Arabian islands in the Red Sea, go fishing, go diving in the Red Sea that has the second biggest coral reef in the world after the Great Barrier Reef in Australia, go visit the beautiful mountain ranges of Hijaz, travel a bit around the region, go make a desert camp, visit the ancient villages or small coastal cities. Play some sport, beach volley etc. Go explore the city, region, visit all the diverse restaurants, traditional shops etc. Go race a bit, LOL. Or watch a football match with the local team Ittihad FC. Many, many opportunities. Not sure what you like?

By no means sit at home and isolate yourself/stay with you own kin - like many expatriates do.

You need to have a network that can show you the interesting places. I know what I am talking about since I am living abroad and without a network I would just sit back home not even knowing half the things I know right now thanks to the locals! Interact with the locals and try to learn Arabic. It surprises me that you do not know where to park after living in Jeddah for 4 years. You should ask such questions in real life and not on forums my friend. Not after 4 years but within the first month! This tells me that you are not interacting enough with the locals. Correct me if I am wrong.
 
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Jeddah is a great city. Fabulous Shopping malls and Great Restaurants Cuisine. All that fun with very little Crime gives you peace of mind and enjoyment. To top it all, Jeddah people are so friendly and hospitable. Great place to live.
 
My friend KSA is not Las Vegas.
What kind of recreation are you interested in? You can do almost everything. Go visit the beautiful and tropical Red Sea, one of the 1150 tropical Saudi Arabian islands in the Red Sea, go fishing, go diving in the Red Sea that has the second biggest coral reef in the world after the Great Barrier Reef in Australia, go visit the beautiful mountain ranges of Hijaz, travel a bit around the region, go make a desert camp, visit the ancient villages or small coastal cities. Play some sport, beach volley etc. Go explore the city, region, visit all the diverse restaurants, traditional shops etc. Go race a bit, LOL. Or watch a football match with the local team Ittihad FC. Many, many opportunities. Not sure what you like?

By no means sit at home and isolate yourself/stay with you own kin - like many expatriates do.

Well thats a huge list. Most of it has been repeatedly done. I was looking for a purpose built jogging track and couldn't find any except one (behind hilton). Thats why i was specifically talking about public parks. Las Vegas comparison was a bit too optimistic i believe. Never mind.
 
Well thats a huge list. Most of it has been repeatedly done. I was looking for a purpose built jogging track and couldn't find any except one (behind hilton). Thats why i was specifically talking about public parks. Las Vegas comparison was a bit too optimistic i believe. Never mind.

Have you dived in the Red Sea? Visited just one of the 1150 Saudi Arabian tropical island in the Red Sea? I can recommend the Farasan Islands as a start. Consult the locals and they will help you with the rest. Have you visited a nearby city such as Ta'if? Located at nearly 2000 meters altitude with a pleasant climate all year round? Been on a tour visiting one old and small mountain village after the other in Hijaz? Go approach people and they will love nothing more than host you. If you can speak a bit Arabic they would be even more eager to welcome you. How far outside the immediate Jeddah region have you been in KSA? Visited Al-Baha, Jazan, Najran and the beautiful Southern provinces? Been to Rub' al-Khali? How about the Eastern part of the country? Riyadh?

Well you can run around the cornish or along the beach.
There are running clubs in Jeddah. Just ask and be curious. Ask and ask more.

I found a link to a Facebook page if it has any interest. Probably many expatriates among them too.

Jeddah Running Club | Facebook

It all depends on your curiosity and interaction with the locals and what you want to do.
Me mentioning Las Vegas was just a little joke and a sign of you not to expect casinos, bars, nightclubs etc. which among most people in the West are the main recreations.

BTW: Running is not the most popular of things or sports in KSA or Jeddah. If you run then do it only in the morning or night when it is hot outside.
 
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Have you dived in the Red Sea? Visited just one of the 1150 Saudi Arabian tropical island in the Red Sea? I can recommend the Farasan Islands as a start. Consult the locals and they will help you with the rest. Have you visited a nearby city such as Ta'if? Located at nearly 2000 meters altitude with a pleasant climate all year round? Been on a tour visiting one old and small mountain village after the other in Hijaz? Go approach people and they will love nothing more than host you. If you can speak a bit Arabic they would be even more eager to welcome you. How far outside the immediate Jeddah region have you been in KSA? Visited Al-Baha, Jazan, Najran and the beautiful Southern provinces? Been to Rub' al-Khali? How about the Eastern part of the country? Riyadh?

Well you can run around the cornish or along the beach.
There are running clubs in Jeddah. Just ask and be curious. Ask and ask more.

I found a link to a Facebook page if it has any interest. Probably many expatriates among them too.

Jeddah Running Club | Facebook

It all depends on your curiosity and interaction with the locals and what you want to do.

You left a few places including Mt. Sinai and Al Ula (madain Saleh). Southern region all seen upto Sharoura. North all covered upto Hafr Al Batin. Been a shuttle between eastern and western province. Lovely places no doubt. Even farasan island is good. I work in sales so i am travelling all the time but please admit there is no public park in Jeddah. Please please please do.

And we definitely need one.
 
You left a few places including Mt. Sinai and Al Ula (madain Saleh). Southern region all seen upto Sharoura. North all covered upto Hafr Al Batin. Been a shuttle between eastern and western province. Lovely places no doubt. Even farasan island is good. I work in sales so i am travelling all the time but please admit there is no public park in Jeddah. Please please please do.

And we definitely need one.

That sounds good. Still much, much more left to see just in Hijaz alone.

Yes, I agree with that but as you might know then KSA is one huge building project right now on many fronts all aimed at making the country better, including the infrastructure obviously.
 
It is a huge country Al-Hasani. Will surely take some time to see more. Rub Al Khali only is almost the size of Pakistan but I am on the road.

It is good to know you. Cheers
 
It is a huge country Al-Hasani. Will surely take some time to see more. Rub Al Khali only is almost the size of Pakistan but I am on the road.

It is good to know you. Cheers

You are very welcome.

Yes, you are right. To be honest I have far from been anywhere or even visited every single province. The country is just too big to visit everything. It would take literary a few years to cover most of it.

In the meantime I can invite you to visit the thread "Saudi Arabia in pictures" below:

Saudi Arabia in Pictures | Page 41

You might very well recognize some areas that you maybe have visited.

Feel free to ask any questions in the future and I will try to help you. Or any of the other Saudi Arabian members. We have a quite diverse bunch from different corners of KSA. They don't bite.;)
 

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