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When India Invaded Pakistan

Same old process has been repeated again here. I have seen it on every damn thread on this forum.

A delusional and troll thread appears.
Pakistanis whine, Indians put facts.
Pakistanis whine even more owing to decades of brainwashing, Indians put more facts and true version of history.
Pakistanis run away.
 
India has already invaded Pakistan culturally thanks to bollywood and the various Indian channels in Pakistani homes :lol:


Big deal? Guess what? Muslims from this land (Pakistan , West of Indus) already imposed Islamic Culture on India. Your food , your dresses , your many languages , your music , your architecture , your famous monuments etc are ALL but signs of 'Islamic Influence' on India--Thanks to invasions from North-Western India (part of present day Pakistan :) ) ... Your India lost its identity of 'pre-Islamic' era...


So which so called fantasized 'invasions' you talk about? :lol:


Just because we watch your naked girls and that too..without paying any money...it doesn't mean that you have squat on us. Tell me just ONE "influence" that your media had on us as a nation? NOTHING! Actually , Pakistan plunders the f*ck outa India in every way. Your Singer cry on TV that Pakistanis are destroying Indian music industry..we cause billions to your industry due to piracy etc...your girls DIE for Pakistanis like Ali Zafar , Atif Aslam etc (Ali was ranked as hottest new-comer in India) ....

Plus : You are naive. Pakistan dramas have literally THRASHED Indian dramas now..Yes , before Indian dramas were a hit..but not anymore...

Bollywood still holds because it provides us free , cheap entertainment..whats wrong in that?
 
Big deal? Guess what? Muslims from this land (Pakistan , West of Indus) already imposed Islamic Culture on India.

:rofl:. Muslims from your land were only good at sending out invitations to their masters in Afghanistan and Iran to attack on India. Even today, that still is a part of your genes, just your masters have changed.
 
i constantly hear that Pakistan won 3 of the four wars with India . if so mind explaining how you guys never gained an inch of Indian territory in 65 yrs but lost half your country? if thats called winning . good on you mate:)

Not an inch of territory? :lol:

In 1948 , Pakistanis got THE MOST strategically important lands in Kashmir. Pakistan captured population centers of Gilgit , Skardu etc and secured access to central Asia...Cutting India off from Central Asian route..and hence containing poor indians in useless gigantic plains .... Where India would've got entire Kashmir due to Hindu treachery ...it only got some parts..and that too which are strategically of very less importance...and made even less important due to Indo-Pak water-accords ..

In 1965 , Pakistan defeated Indian attack on Lahore city and forced indians to retreat , captured strategically important Indian towns like Khem Kharan , captured strategically important Indian supply-lines like Muna Bao railway station , PAF just badly blasted the a$$ of five times larger IAF , and all this eventually forced India to face the humiliation of signing an agreement of stalemate with SEVEN TIMES smaller nation-that was badly outgunned and outnumbered during the war... Your OWN media back then called it as "giving a walkover to Pakistan."

In 1999 Kargil war , just 5000 Pakistani troops+fighters got 30,000 indian soldiers with their pants down :lol: .... We slaughtered the f*ck outa your poor troops...At the end of the war , Pakistan captured strategically important Indian heights such as point 5353 , Dalu Nag , Saddle Ridge etc etc..We STILL hold these Indian territories :azn: ... We over-look NH-1 and Indian supplies to Siachen...

So in every war against W.Pakistan (Today's Pakistan) , Indian forces have faced humiliation from SEVEN TIMES smaller nation..When indians faced their EQUALS...they were a$$-raped by Chinese :lol: But Pakistanis faced SEVEN TIMES larger nation and stood their ground pretty...

180 million Pakistanis contained 1200 million indians ...

:rofl:. Muslims from your land were only good at sending out invitations to their masters in Afghanistan and Iran to attack on India. Even today, that still is a part of your genes, just your masters have changed.

Doesn't matter what you say...fact remains that your culture was thrashed..and now you follow a culture that is heavily influence by Islamic Culture... Muslims imposed their culture on you :lol: Your food , your dresses , your many languages , your music , your architecture , your famous monuments etc are ALL but signs of 'Islamic Influence' on India--Thanks to invasions from North-Western India (part of present day Pakistan ) ... Your India lost its identity of 'pre-Islamic' era...
 
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Seems someone has been ''schooled' properly in the true facts by the Pakistan army and Zaid sirjee....................Auz , what jazba in you writing.............
 
Your India lost its identity of 'pre-Islamic' era...


Are you dreaming? In what delusional world you are living dude?? Our culture is still their, its your culture that was thrashed by afgans and arabs and which is now extinct to the extent that those who thrashed your ancestors are toady your heroes, just pathetic!
 
When India Invaded Pakistan

Submitted by Aurangzeb on September 8, 2012 – 1:39 am

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PKKH Exclusive | By Atiq Durrani

“We are at war” Pakistani President Ayub Khan made an emergency broadcast to the nation on 6th September 1965. He said the Indian attack was proof of the evil intentions which India had always harbored against Pakistan.

Since August 1965 tensions between India and Pakistan was high because of the Kashmir issue. India alleged Pakistan had sent militants to Kashmir to fight against Indian Army. Pakistan claimed it was a local uprising against India’s atrocities.

The issue was raised in different international forums and India assured at these forums that India will not cross the international borders. But at the midnight between 05 and 06 September 1965, Indian army invaded West Pakistan, crossing the international border at three points.



Who started the war?

BBC News on 6th Sep, 1965 reported India-Pakistan war as: “Indian Army invades W.Pakistan”.

According to BBC News “Indian troops have invaded West Pakistan, crossing the border at three points in an attack which appears to be aimed mainly at the city of Lahore. Authorities in Delhi say their action was intended to prevent a direct attack by Pakistani forces against India.”

One of the reasons India’s then Defense Minister Yashwantrao Chavan gave for crossing international borders and invading Pakistan was that “It was quite apparent Pakistan’s next move was to attack Punjab across the international frontier.”

But in reality when India crossed Pakistani border in Punjab and arrived in Batapur, Pakistani army was not even prepared for war. Pakistan believed that India will not cross the border after assurance at international forums. When Indian’s didn’t find much resistance at border they thought it must be a trap, and become more careful which ultimately affected their pace of attack and the Pakistan Army got some time to prepare, defend and counter attack. This clearly shows that Pakistani Army was not having any intentions to cross the international border.

Later as a result of counterattack by Pakistan near the west bank of the BRB Canal, at the border of India and Pakistan. Major General Prasad’s entourage itself was ambushed and he was forced to flee his vehicle.

Other reason that Indian Army gave for invading Pakistan is that Pakistan was involved in the uprising in Kashmir and alleged that Pakistan had sent militants in Kashmir to fight against Indian Army. Pakistan stand on this issue was that Kashmir is a disputed territory and whatever happens in Kashmir cannot be dubbed as a war.

BBC News also stated that ceasefire line was established in 1949 after the first Indo-Pakistan war, into Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir. Since then there have been a number of clashes along the ceasefire line, there had been a few minor clashes in the Rann of Kutch too, but this is the first time Indian troops have crossed into West Pakistan in what is being seen as an act of war.

On the other side before the start of all-out war, Indian Prime Minister Lal Bhadur Shastri had said “We will open the front of our choice”. Similarly The Indian chief of army staff Joyanto Nath Chowdhuri had said: “I’ll have a bada (large) peg in the Lahore Gymkhana.” All these statements are recorded in history but what happened was completely against the wishes of Indian government and Indian Army. Pakistan Army completely destroyed their dreams.

It is obvious from the above facts that India is the one who started the war and invaded Pakistan.

When India invaded Pakistan

After the Indian invasion Pakistan Army not only defended its borders against the much mightier Indian Army but it also moved into the Indian Territory and claimed to have captured 1075 km2 of Indian territory.

Time magazine reported that “despite claims from both sides the awkward fact is that Khemkaran is under Pakistan administration.”

The London Daily Mirror reported: “There is a smell of death in the burning Pakistan sun. For it was here that India’s attacking forces came to a dead stop.”

“By all accounts the courage displayed by the Pakistan Air Force pilots is reminiscent of the bravery of the few young and dedicated pilots who saved this country from Nazi invaders in the critical Battle of Britain during the last war.” stated Patrick Seale, in The Observer, London on September 12, 1965.

In Times reporter Louis Karrar wrote: “Who can defeat a nation which knows how to play hide and seek with death”.

“Pakistan claims to have destroyed something like 1/3rd the Indian Air Force, and foreign observers, who are in a position to know say that Pakistani pilots have claimed even higher kills than this; but the Pakistani Air Force are being scrupulously honest in evaluating these claims. They are crediting Pakistan Air Force only those killings that can be checked from other sources.” said Roy Meloni on American Broadcasting Corporation (September 15, 1965).

“During the night they threw in every reinforcement they could find. But wave after wave of attacks were repulsed by the Pakistanis” “India is being soundly beaten by a nation which is outnumbered by four and a half to one in population and three to one in size of armed forces.” said the London Daily Times.

USA – Aviation Week & Space Technology – said in December 1968 issue “For the PAF, the 1965 war as climatic as the Israeli victory over the Arabs in 1967. A further similarity was that Indian air power had an approximately 5:1 numerical superiority at the start of the conflict. Unlike the Middle East conflict, the Pakistani air victory was achieved to a large degree by air-to-air combat rather than on a air-to-ground one. But it was as absolute as that attained by Israel.”

Indian failure can also be assessed by the Official History of the 1965 War drafted by the Ministry of Defense of India in 1992. According to this document, on September 22 when the Security Council was pressurizing both the countries for the ceasefire, Indian Prime Minister asked commanding Gen. Chaudhuri if India could possible win the war. The general urged negotiations for ceasefire and replied that most of India’s frontline ammunition had been used up and the Indian Army had suffered considerable tank losses. But later it was determined that till that time India had used only 14% of its frontline ammunition.

On the other side our then foreign minister Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto declared in a very emotional speech at the UN Security Council that “If needed, for Kashmir we would fight a war for a thousand years” although Pakistan had used 80% of its frontline ammunition till that time. But the nation was still determined to fight. That was the main difference between the morale of Indian and Pakistani people which was sky-high at our end.

The war lasted till September 22, 1965, when a ceasefire was declared due to the intervention of the United Nations and it was decided that on the International border pre-war positions should be held by the both countries.

It can be concluded that Pakistan was invaded by India and Pakistan successfully defended its borders. Many Pakistanis and international analysts considered the performance of Pakistani military to be positive. September 6 is celebrated as Defense Day in Pakistan, in commemoration of the successful defense of Lahore against the Indian army. The performance of the Pakistani Air Force, in particular, was praised. Kashmir issue was once again highlighted in the international forums and United Nations passed four resolutions (210,211,214 and 215) on this issue.

Maj. Raja Aziz Bhatti was awarded with Nishan-e-Haider and became the hero of Pakistan who died defending the lines near Lahore. Many stories of bravery and patriotism emerged from the battle field. It was first time that Pakistan was invaded and the people of Pakistan were standing united with the soldiers of Pakistan Army to defend their country. Today again we are under attack by the enemies of Pakistan from Inside as well as outside Pakistan. Our spirits should be the same as it was in 1965 so that we can again defend our homeland and tell our enemies that we were united and we are united to defend our Pakistan.

When India Invaded Pakistan | PKKH.tv


I don’t understand why this topic is discussed again and again."Tank nikal gaye 1965 me, aap abhi tak dhool jhaad rahe hai ?"
Do posters don’t have any worth full work or discussion to pass their time ? This is 2012 man; we are not at war anymore. Talk about some creative thing, talk about love. There are sooooo many things in this world to do and to talk about. Get a life man.
 
India has never ever invaded any country....

We might have accidentally in 62 , when we assumed the hills on the borders were in our side of the line........thanks to British and to the mess they made of our border demarcation
 
Same old process has been repeated again here. I have seen it on every damn thread on this forum.

A delusional and troll thread appears.
Pakistanis whine, Indians put facts.
Pakistanis whine even more owing to decades of brainwashing, Indians put more facts and true version of history.
Pakistanis run away.

damn, the height of infeority complex.
 
damn, the height of infeority complex.

What is "infeority"? :lol:

Oh, You are the same guy who got owned after posting a BBC article which said Pakistan started the war, in process of trying to prove otherwise. Damn, height of getting owned. lol
 
What is "infeority"? :lol:

Oh, You are the same guy who got owned after posting a BBC article which said Pakistan started the war, in process of trying to prove otherwise. Damn, height of getting owned. lol

my point precisely proven
 
Exactly.

Indian started the war , not Pakistan. So please tell this to your poor brainwashed masses.... Pakistan was just creating a low-level insurgency in Kashmir (Not even mainland India) ... We also think that India is creating insurgency in Balochistan...but we don't invade Indian international borders...

Indian invasion of Lahore is what formally started 1965 war ... which ended in Pakistan's military victory as Pakistan defeated Indian attack on Lahore city and forced indians to retreat , captured strategically important Indian towns like Khem Kharan , captured strategically important Indian supply-lines like Muna Bao railway station , PAF just badly battered five times larger IAF , and all this eventually forced India to face the humiliation of signing an agreement of stalemate with SEVEN TIMES smaller nation-that was badly outgunned and outnumbered during the war... Your OWN media back then called it as "giving a walkover to Pakistan." :agree:

So we have no problem with your 'reply' ...but just don't brainwashed your masses that Pakistan started the war. It was aggressor India who invaded the West Pakistan.:)

Operation Gibralatar had 9 frikking thousand troops. That's not an insurgency. And the war officially started on September 6? Yeah sure, that's in Pakistan. For India and the rest of the world, the war started with Operation Grand Slam on September 1, a plan to take Akhnoor. Pakistan had a 6:1 advantage in tanks numbers in the sectors, and guess what? They still lost. XP

It's funny you guys call India SEVEN TIMES LARGER. India had 700,000 troops, of which only 300,000 were on Indo-Pak border. Pakistan had 200,000 troops, all of which were on Indo-Pak border. Pakistan actually had a huge advantage in armour, and artillery. Now, you needn't be a genius to do the multiplication. 300,000 is 1.5 times 200,000, which isn't a huge advantage.
 

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