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Let’s rewind to a great battle that the Indian army and armed forces won, with a bonus of a special POW

August 1971 onwards, we were living in interesting times. Talk of war was in the air and for young officers like me, in their early twenties, those were heady days. I was the Adjutant of 4 Sikh, which as 36 Sikh in 1897 had fought the epic battle of Saragarhi on the the Samana Ridge, where 21 soldiers fought to the last man while defending a post.

On November 11, 1971, my battalion commenced operations in East Pakistan on November 11, 1971. We advanced north from the Boyra salient, which is 30km west of Jessore and secured an area around Makapur village, 6 km inside East Pakistan.

We had some patrol clashes, but no worthwhile engagement took place. The main defences of Pak 107 Infantry Brigade were in a compact arc around Jessore, 30 km to the east. Since Pakistani troops were not offering battle, it was decided to advance further. On November 19, a squadron of brand new T 55 tanks of 63 Cavalry (CAV), joined us. On November 20, 4 Sikh advanced cross-country towards Chaugacha, along with the squadron of tanks of 63 CAV. One infantry company was mounted on the tanks and three other companies moved behind them on the trot. We were engaged by forward elements of Pak 107 Infantry Brigade. These were quickly scattered by tank and artillery fire. Our jawans were full of josh and were cheered by the locals who shouted “Joy Bangla”. Cries of “Jo Bole So Nihal”, the battle cry of 4 Sikh, also rent the air. Dust plumes were going high up in the air due to artillery fire and tank movement.

By evening, we had advanced 20 kilometres in a north-east direction. We hit the Kabadak River at Chaugacha. Our D Company with tanks tried to rush the bridge, but it was blown up by the enemy. One of our tanks got bogged down in the loose earth at western end of the bridge. Heavy fire was coming from entrenched enemy positions located on high ground, east of the river. We firmed in on the western bank and planning commenced for attacking across the river.

The same night 14 Punjab, along with a squadron of PT 76 tanks of 45 Cavalry, had crossed the Kabadak River to the East of Boyra Salient and taken up defences around Garibpur village. This position was 10 kilometres south west of Chaugacha. At night, artillery and mortar duels continued.

At first light on November 21, 1971, Pak 107 Infantry Brigade attacked 14 Punjab with one infantry battalion and a squadron of Chaffee tanks. A fierce battle ensued, but the Pakistani attack failed. Eight Chaffee tanks lay smouldering at loss of our three. Three tanks were abandoned by Pakistanis. Major “Chiefy” Narang, our Squadron Commander of 45 Cavalry, was martyred. Captain Teji Sidhu his second in command, had a tank shell pass through his legs as he was directing tank fire, standing in his cupola. He was badly injured, but lived. These officers along with those of 14 Punjab led from the front.

As soon as the winter fog lifted, the Pakistani Air Force came down hard on us. During the day of November 21, about 16 sorties were flown primarily against the positions of 4 Sikh. The visible target for the Pakistani Sabres was our stranded tank on the demolished bridge. We repeatedly requested for fighter aircraft cover, but no clearance was given as war had not yet been declared.

On November 22, strafing by enemy Sabres continued. Four sorties each were utilised at 0811 hours and 1028 hours. Since the Indian air force was not allowed to operate, we engaged the aircraft with light machine gun and machine gun fire. At mid-day, I had gone four kilometres to the rear, to check on our logistics base. I was coming back in a jeep at about 1500 hours when I saw three Sabres coming in for the last sortie before sunset. The Sabres homed in on our positions and were carrying out high dive attacks, climbing upto 1800 feet and coming down to 500 feet for weapon release, like the Stukas one saw in the World War II movies.

Suddenly I saw a mission of four fighter aircraft come from the east and fly over me at tree-top level. My jeep swayed. At first, I thought that the PAF had thrown its entire 14 Squadron into battle to deter our impending attack on Chaugacha. I was also hearing the clatter of our medium machine gun and light machine gun fire engaging the aircraft. Then, the four fighters peeled out of formation and headed for the Sabres, which were oblivious to their presence and were continuing with the dive attacks. I realised that our Gnats had joined the battle. I stopped the jeep and stood watching wonderstruck.

Three Gnats chose one aircraft each and closed in. The Gnats fired long bursts of 20mm cannon and I saw flames erupting from the three Sabres and they plunged towards the ground. Having done their job, the Gnats gave wing salute to us on and headed back to Kalaikunda.

Now to the most interesting part of the story: two of the flaming Sabres plunged towards the ground and two parachutes opened up. The third Sabre limped back towards Jessore and made it to Dacca. One of the parachutes with the pilot drifted towards our defences. Our boys rushed out of the trenches towards the descending parachute. Sensing that in the heat of the moment, our jawans might harm the pilot, I also ran towards him as fast as I could. When I was 50 yards away, two of our jawans had knocked the pilot down and were hitting him with rifle butts. I shouted at them to stop. In the meantime, more jawans joined the fray. I had to physically move them away and shielded the pilot by standing in front of him. I calmed down the jawans and told the pilot that he was safe. A tall and fit man, shaken up, but he was putting up a brave face.

We walked to the Battalion Headquarters and the doctor dressed the cut that the pilot had sustained on his forehead. I ordered a cup of tea for him and commenced his interrogation. His name was Flight Lieutenant Parvaiz Qureshi Mehdi, aka Parvaiz Mehdi Qureshi or PQ Mehdi. He was the Squadron Commander of 14 Squadron PAF based at Dacca, and a Sword of Honour from the PAF Academy. His wife’s photo was in his pocket. I made a list of all of his items, which included his watch, 9 mm pistol, 20-30 rounds of ammunition and his survival kit. By this time, he was relaxed as he realised that he was safe. I told him that he was now a prisoner of war (POW) and would be treated as per Geneva Conventions. Surprisingly, he had not seen the Gnats and neither had our troops or other officers, as they had all ducked into trenches.

When my Commanding Officer asked him about the event, Flt Lt P Q Mehdi said that some fire hit him from below. Actually, he was climbing for the dive when the Gnat got him. Our officers and jawans claimed that our machine gun fire had brought the Sabre down. I was told to prepare an immediate citation for an award for the machine gunner. I whispered in my Commanding Officer’s ear that it was our Gnats and that I had seen the dog fight or the “Gnat Pounce”.

He was taken aback, but insisted on the citation. I packed away Flt Lt P Q Mehdi to our Brigade Headquarter. He did not say anything before going, but looked at me and his eyes said “Thank you”. His conduct, despite the shock of being shot down and taken POW, was stoic and dignified.

Eventually, our Gnat pilots and the flight controller were deservedly decorated. Our machine gunner was also decorated with a Sena Medal for his offensive spirit if not for the Sabre! Flt Lt Parvaiz Querishi Mehdi was a POW for one and a half years and had a illustrious subsequent career to become an Air Chief Martial and Chief of Pakistani Air Force (1997-2000). His cockpit seat, parachute and some parts of his Sabre are still held by 4 SIkh as war souvenirs .He was the first POW of the 1971 war and I, Captain HS Panag of 4 Sikh, had been the one to capture him

Source - News Laundry
 
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After passing the university exams, Mehdi applied for the PAF Academy in Risalpur in 1961. His physical examinations, standardise education, and military qualifications tests were taken in Karachi. During the initial years of testings, Mehdi shared a room with Pervez Musharraf of army and Abdul Aziz Mirza of navy whom he became befriended with. After giving the initial military exams and interviews to joint officers of the armed forces, PQ Mehdi, along with Musharraf and Mirza, went to see the world-claim Urdu movie, "Savera (lit. Dawn)". The next day, all three were called to reported back to their respected academies and were selected for their respected training in their arms of commission.
 
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Account of the dogfight from a more detailed and poised angle
http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-last-stand-air-war-1971.html
"In the third mission of the day, around 1530 hrs (all times EPST), three F-86s led by the Squadron Commander, Wg Cdr Afzal Choudhry, with Flg Off Khalil Ahmad as No 2 and Flt Lt Parvaiz Mehdi Qureshi as No 3, attackeda couple of tanks that had been reported in the area. Subsequent to the attack, ground control asked the leader to look for more tanks that were suspected to be concealed around. Loitering in the battlefield amounted to inviting trouble, especially when flying without radar cover. Trouble came swiftly when four ground-scrambled Gnats, of Dum Dum based No 22 Squadron, were able to sneak in and bounce the F-86 formation.

At that time, the leader, Wg Cdr Choudhry, was attacking a AAA battery that was noticed to be firing at them. Pulling out of the dive, Choudhry broke into the Gnat pair flown by Flt Lt R A Massey and Flg Off S F Suarez, and managed to ward off the attack. Choudhry then reversed to take a pot shot at one of the Gnats. During a brief scrap, both Massey and Choudhry claimed firing at the other, but their aircraft remained unscathed. Massey later stated that gun stoppage prevented further firing and he had to give up the chase.Scattered, and without visual cross cover, Khalil and Mehdi fell prey to another pair of Gnats flown by Flt Lt M A Ganapathy andFlg Off D Lazarus, who picked off the two wingmen with professional ease.

[3]Both F-86 pilots ejected and were captured by the insurgents, who handed them over to the Indian Army, eventually ending up as POWs. For No 14 Squadron, it was like losing the opening batsmen in the first over. Not withstanding Chaudhry’s misperception of having been outnumbered by as many as ten Gnats, the reality is that his formation was simply surprised by the nimble interceptors. It might have been instructive if Choudhry had somehow known that the two previous missions of the day had survived interception, only because they had not lingered around and, each time the Gnats had arrived in the area just a little too late
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@Joe Shearer ,@MilSpec , the names of the IAF pilots; Anglos? Suarez looks like a Goan thing
 
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Account of the dogfight from a more detailed and poised angle
http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-last-stand-air-war-1971.html
"In the third mission of the day, around 1530 hrs (all times EPST), three F-86s led by the Squadron Commander, Wg Cdr Afzal Choudhry, with Flg Off Khalil Ahmad as No 2 and Flt Lt Parvaiz Mehdi Qureshi as No 3, attackeda couple of tanks that had been reported in the area. Subsequent to the attack, ground control asked the leader to look for more tanks that were suspected to be concealed around. Loitering in the battlefield amounted to inviting trouble, especially when flying without radar cover. Trouble came swiftly when four ground-scrambled Gnats, of Dum Dum based No 22 Squadron, were able to sneak in and bounce the F-86 formation.

At that time, the leader, Wg Cdr Choudhry, was attacking a AAA battery that was noticed to be firing at them. Pulling out of the dive, Choudhry broke into the Gnat pair flown by Flt Lt R A Massey and Flg Off S F Suarez, and managed to ward off the attack. Choudhry then reversed to take a pot shot at one of the Gnats. During a brief scrap, both Massey and Choudhry claimed firing at the other, but their aircraft remained unscathed. Massey later stated that gun stoppage prevented further firing and he had to give up the chase.Scattered, and without visual cross cover, Khalil and Mehdi fell prey to another pair of Gnats flown by Flt Lt M A Ganapathy andFlg Off D Lazarus, who picked off the two wingmen with professional ease.

[3]Both F-86 pilots ejected and were captured by the insurgents, who handed them over to the Indian Army, eventually ending up as POWs. For No 14 Squadron, it was like losing the opening batsmen in the first over. Not withstanding Chaudhry’s misperception of having been outnumbered by as many as ten Gnats, the reality is that his formation was simply surprised by the nimble interceptors. It might have been instructive if Choudhry had somehow known that the two previous missions of the day had survived interception, only because they had not lingered around and, each time the Gnats had arrived in the area just a little too late
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@Joe Shearer ,@MilSpec , the names of the IAF pilots; Anglos? Suarez looks like a Goan thing

Yes, indeed, Massey was AI, and Suarez was probably Goan (I don't know about him personally). I remember Neil O'Brien telling me that Massey's Dad was a prominent AI, member of a faction opposed to Frank Anthony.
You will remember that some of our best pilots, the Keelor brothers, for instance, were AIs (ahem, both La Marts :yahoo: Lucknow ). These both got decorated; both got Vir Chakras for shooting down Sabres, and there was a third brother.

Denzil Keelor got flag rank and retired as an Air Marshal, I think. Trevor Keelor got bored and quit soon after his days of derring do. Mally Wollen went on to HAL as Chairman and died recently. There was a favourite senior called Wilson, whom several of my Air Force friends remembered with great fondness; I think he retired as Air Marshal or something. The highest ranking AI was Denis La Fontaine, who took over as Air Chief when poor Katre died suddenly. After retiring, he settled down quite close to where I am now, in a village farm in Medak, about 30 miles away.

Strictly speaking, Fernandez, Suares, Rodriguez, were Goans or Mangaloreans (they hate being mistaken for each other - be careful) but were treated like AIs. In a way, they were, although apparently they themselves didn't think much of the grouping, being very conscious of their Portuguese antecedents.

@jbgt90

PS: @Oscar Look where Arup Raha was recently, and why (I share his school, and he was at a function at the Lucknow campus of the next school I joined).

http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2015/09/indian-air-force-has-transformed-into.html
 
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Jun 8, 2016

Let’s rewind to a great battle that the Indian army and armed forces won, with a bonus of a special POW

August 1971 onwards, we were living in interesting times. Talk of war was in the air and for young officers like me, in their early twenties, those were heady days. I was the Adjutant of 4 Sikh, which as 36 Sikh in 1897 had fought the epic battle of Saragarhi on the the Samana Ridge, where 21 soldiers fought to the last man while defending a post.

On November 11, 1971, my battalion commenced operations in East Pakistan on November 11, 1971. We advanced north from the Boyra salient, which is 30km west of Jessore and secured an area around Makapur village, 6 km inside East Pakistan.

We had some patrol clashes, but no worthwhile engagement took place. The main defences of Pak 107 Infantry Brigade were in a compact arc around Jessore, 30 km to the east. Since Pakistani troops were not offering battle, it was decided to advance further. On November 19, a squadron of brand new T 55 tanks of 63 Cavalry (CAV), joined us. On November 20, 4 Sikh advanced cross-country towards Chaugacha, along with the squadron of tanks of 63 CAV. One infantry company was mounted on the tanks and three other companies moved behind them on the trot. We were engaged by forward elements of Pak 107 Infantry Brigade. These were quickly scattered by tank and artillery fire. Our jawans were full of josh and were cheered by the locals who shouted “Joy Bangla”. Cries of “Jo Bole So Nihal”, the battle cry of 4 Sikh, also rent the air. Dust plumes were going high up in the air due to artillery fire and tank movement.

By evening, we had advanced 20 kilometres in a north-east direction. We hit the Kabadak River at Chaugacha. Our D Company with tanks tried to rush the bridge, but it was blown up by the enemy. One of our tanks got bogged down in the loose earth at western end of the bridge. Heavy fire was coming from entrenched enemy positions located on high ground, east of the river. We firmed in on the western bank and planning commenced for attacking across the river.

The same night 14 Punjab, along with a squadron of PT 76 tanks of 45 Cavalry, had crossed the Kabadak River to the East of Boyra Salient and taken up defences around Garibpur village. This position was 10 kilometres south west of Chaugacha. At night, artillery and mortar duels continued.

At first light on November 21, 1971, Pak 107 Infantry Brigade attacked 14 Punjab with one infantry battalion and a squadron of Chaffee tanks. A fierce battle ensued, but the Pakistani attack failed. Eight Chaffee tanks lay smouldering at loss of our three. Three tanks were abandoned by Pakistanis. Major “Chiefy” Narang, our Squadron Commander of 45 Cavalry, was martyred. Captain Teji Sidhu his second in command, had a tank shell pass through his legs as he was directing tank fire, standing in his cupola. He was badly injured, but lived. These officers along with those of 14 Punjab led from the front.

As soon as the winter fog lifted, the Pakistani Air Force came down hard on us. During the day of November 21, about 16 sorties were flown primarily against the positions of 4 Sikh. The visible target for the Pakistani Sabres was our stranded tank on the demolished bridge. We repeatedly requested for fighter aircraft cover, but no clearance was given as war had not yet been declared.

On November 22, strafing by enemy Sabres continued. Four sorties each were utilised at 0811 hours and 1028 hours. Since the Indian air force was not allowed to operate, we engaged the aircraft with light machine gun and machine gun fire. At mid-day, I had gone four kilometres to the rear, to check on our logistics base. I was coming back in a jeep at about 1500 hours when I saw three Sabres coming in for the last sortie before sunset. The Sabres homed in on our positions and were carrying out high dive attacks, climbing upto 1800 feet and coming down to 500 feet for weapon release, like the Stukas one saw in the World War II movies.

Suddenly I saw a mission of four fighter aircraft come from the east and fly over me at tree-top level. My jeep swayed. At first, I thought that the PAF had thrown its entire 14 Squadron into battle to deter our impending attack on Chaugacha. I was also hearing the clatter of our medium machine gun and light machine gun fire engaging the aircraft. Then, the four fighters peeled out of formation and headed for the Sabres, which were oblivious to their presence and were continuing with the dive attacks. I realised that our Gnats had joined the battle. I stopped the jeep and stood watching wonderstruck.

Three Gnats chose one aircraft each and closed in. The Gnats fired long bursts of 20mm cannon and I saw flames erupting from the three Sabres and they plunged towards the ground. Having done their job, the Gnats gave wing salute to us on and headed back to Kalaikunda.

Now to the most interesting part of the story: two of the flaming Sabres plunged towards the ground and two parachutes opened up. The third Sabre limped back towards Jessore and made it to Dacca. One of the parachutes with the pilot drifted towards our defences. Our boys rushed out of the trenches towards the descending parachute. Sensing that in the heat of the moment, our jawans might harm the pilot, I also ran towards him as fast as I could. When I was 50 yards away, two of our jawans had knocked the pilot down and were hitting him with rifle butts. I shouted at them to stop. In the meantime, more jawans joined the fray. I had to physically move them away and shielded the pilot by standing in front of him. I calmed down the jawans and told the pilot that he was safe. A tall and fit man, shaken up, but he was putting up a brave face.

We walked to the Battalion Headquarters and the doctor dressed the cut that the pilot had sustained on his forehead. I ordered a cup of tea for him and commenced his interrogation. His name was Flight Lieutenant Parvaiz Qureshi Mehdi, aka Parvaiz Mehdi Qureshi or PQ Mehdi. He was the Squadron Commander of 14 Squadron PAF based at Dacca, and a Sword of Honour from the PAF Academy. His wife’s photo was in his pocket. I made a list of all of his items, which included his watch, 9 mm pistol, 20-30 rounds of ammunition and his survival kit. By this time, he was relaxed as he realised that he was safe. I told him that he was now a prisoner of war (POW) and would be treated as per Geneva Conventions. Surprisingly, he had not seen the Gnats and neither had our troops or other officers, as they had all ducked into trenches.

When my Commanding Officer asked him about the event, Flt Lt P Q Mehdi said that some fire hit him from below. Actually, he was climbing for the dive when the Gnat got him. Our officers and jawans claimed that our machine gun fire had brought the Sabre down. I was told to prepare an immediate citation for an award for the machine gunner. I whispered in my Commanding Officer’s ear that it was our Gnats and that I had seen the dog fight or the “Gnat Pounce”.

He was taken aback, but insisted on the citation. I packed away Flt Lt P Q Mehdi to our Brigade Headquarter. He did not say anything before going, but looked at me and his eyes said “Thank you”. His conduct, despite the shock of being shot down and taken POW, was stoic and dignified.

Eventually, our Gnat pilots and the flight controller were deservedly decorated. Our machine gunner was also decorated with a Sena Medal for his offensive spirit if not for the Sabre! Flt Lt Parvaiz Querishi Mehdi was a POW for one and a half years and had a illustrious subsequent career to become an Air Chief Martial and Chief of Pakistani Air Force (1997-2000). His cockpit seat, parachute and some parts of his Sabre are still held by 4 SIkh as war souvenirs .He was the first POW of the 1971 war and I, Captain HS Panag of 4 Sikh, had been the one to capture him

Source - News Laundry
A very interesting and well written story of 1971 war. While Flt Lt Pervaiz Mehdi became our Air Chief what happened to Captain HS Panag. Just out of curiosity at which rank did he retire ?
 
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A very interesting and well written story of 1971 war. While Flt Lt Pervaiz Mehdi became our Air Chief what happened to Captain HS Panag. Just out of curiosity at which rank did he retire ?

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Yes, indeed, Massey was AI, and Suarez was probably Goan (I don't know about him personally). I remember Neil O'Brien telling me that Massey's Dad was a prominent AI, member of a faction opposed to Frank Anthony.
You will remember that some of our best pilots, the Keelor brothers, for instance, were AIs (ahem, both La Marts :yahoo: Lucknow ). These both got decorated; both got Vir Chakras for shooting down Sabres, and there was a third brother.

Denzil Keelor got flag rank and retired as an Air Marshal, I think. Trevor Keelor got bored and quit soon after his days of derring do. Mally Wollen went on to HAL as Chairman and died recently. There was a favourite senior called Wilson, whom several of my Air Force friends remembered with great fondness; I think he retired as Air Marshal or something. The highest ranking AI was Denis La Fontaine, who took over as Air Chief when poor Katre died suddenly. After retiring, he settled down quite close to where I am now, in a village farm in Medak, about 30 miles away.

Strictly speaking, Fernandez, Suares, Rodriguez, were Goans or Mangaloreans (they hate being mistaken for each other - be careful) but were treated like AIs. In a way, they were, although apparently they themselves didn't think much of the grouping, being very conscious of their Portuguese antecedents.

@jbgt90

PS: @Oscar Look where Arup Raha was recently, and why (I share his school, and he was at a function at the Lucknow campus of the next school I joined).

http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2015/09/indian-air-force-has-transformed-into.html
There is this book called "Diary of an Infantryman " By Brig Ian da Costa. its good read Joe. will try to get you a copy or give you mine to read. .
And yeah do not try to even club us with AI :)
 
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There is this book called "Diary of an Infantryman " By Brig Ian da Costa. i good read Joe. will try to get you a copy or give you mine to read. .
And yeah do not try to even club us with AI :)

Oh yes!

Incidentally when I get my Dera Bassi books down, you have to read Gul Hassan's book. A good read, although there isn't much of gunpowder and bullets flying, it's a political book, and talks about the various conspiracies and scandals, and about the final debacle of Bangladesh (he became C-in-C, the last Pakistani C-in-C, after that). Peppery little chap who took no crap from anyone. Not as good as Z. A. Khan, but otherwise one of the better ones.

Didn't General Cardozo also write a very good book?


A very interesting and well written story of 1971 war. While Flt Lt Pervaiz Mehdi became our Air Chief what happened to Captain HS Panag. Just out of curiosity at which rank did he retire ?

He was a soldier's soldier, and, as happens at these levels to straightforward blunt types, he was stabbed in the back. He blew the whistle about funds being used for machinery to build golf-courses in Kashmir, and one of the worst chiefs we had - a lousy little b*****d - shunted him out of Northern Command, where he was GOC-in-C, to Central Command, in Lucknow, having first stripped Central Command of its major fighting muscle.

He had a feisty daughter called Gul, who was a renowned beauty; also did not take crap, like her Dad, and, like another fauji kid who got a Miss Universe title (Gul didn't win, Sushmita Sen did), carved her own way through life.

I think he was 64th or 66th batch NDA.

@jbgt90

A very interesting and well written story of 1971 war. While Flt Lt Pervaiz Mehdi became our Air Chief what happened to Captain HS Panag. Just out of curiosity at which rank did he retire ?

You know of course that Indian Lieutenants General are really at two levels, Corps Commander, and their reporting superiors, GOC-in-C of our different Commands (all but the tri-services A&N Command), also Lt. General. Panag was the senior sort.

I know I'll get slaughtered for this, but I hope people will like reading this interview. Who can help liking the bloke?

http://m.rediff.com/news/mar/18gul.htm
 
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Oh yes!

Incidentally when I get my Dera Bassi books down, you have to read Gul Hassan's book. A good read, although there isn't much of gunpowder and bullets flying, it's a political book, and talks about the various conspiracies and scandals, and about the final debacle of Bangladesh (he became C-in-C, the last Pakistani C-in-C, after that). Peppery little chap who took no crap from anyone. Not as good as Z. A. Khan, but otherwise one of the better ones.

Didn't General Cardozo also write a very good book?




He was a soldier's soldier, and, as happens at these levels to straightforward blunt types, he was stabbed in the back. He blew the whistle about funds being used for machinery to build golf-courses in Kashmir, and one of the worst chiefs we had - a lousy little b*****d - shunted him out of Northern Command, where he was GOC-in-C, to Central Command, in Lucknow, having first stripped Central Command of its major fighting muscle.

He had a feisty daughter called Gul, who was a renowned beauty; also did not take crap, like her Dad, and, like another fauji kid who got a Miss Universe title (Gul didn't win, Sushmita Sen did), carved her own way through life.

I think he was 64th or 66th batch NDA.

@jbgt90



You know of course that Indian Lieutenants General are really at two levels, Corps Commander, and their reporting superiors, GOC-in-C of our different Commands (all but the tri-services A&N Command), also Lt. General. Panag was the senior sort.

I know I'll get slaughtered for this, but I hope people will like reading this interview. Who can help liking the bloke?

http://m.rediff.com/news/mar/18gul.htm
gul panag !
 
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Oh yes!

Incidentally when I get my Dera Bassi books down, you have to read Gul Hassan's book. A good read, although there isn't much of gunpowder and bullets flying, it's a political book, and talks about the various conspiracies and scandals, and about the final debacle of Bangladesh (he became C-in-C, the last Pakistani C-in-C, after that). Peppery little chap who took no crap from anyone. Not as good as Z. A. Khan, but otherwise one of the better ones.

Didn't General Cardozo also write a very good book?




He was a soldier's soldier, and, as happens at these levels to straightforward blunt types, he was stabbed in the back. He blew the whistle about funds being used for machinery to build golf-courses in Kashmir, and one of the worst chiefs we had - a lousy little b*****d - shunted him out of Northern Command, where he was GOC-in-C, to Central Command, in Lucknow, having first stripped Central Command of its major fighting muscle.

He had a feisty daughter called Gul, who was a renowned beauty; also did not take crap, like her Dad, and, like another fauji kid who got a Miss Universe title (Gul didn't win, Sushmita Sen did), carved her own way through life.

I think he was 64th or 66th batch NDA.

@jbgt90



You know of course that Indian Lieutenants General are really at two levels, Corps Commander, and their reporting superiors, GOC-in-C of our different Commands (all but the tri-services A&N Command), also Lt. General. Panag was the senior sort.

I know I'll get slaughtered for this, but I hope people will like reading this interview. Who can help liking the bloke?

http://m.rediff.com/news/mar/18gul.htm
66 NDA batch? man that was long before i went there . :)

Gen Cardozo wrote the book i referred too , dont know if there is any more.
 
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Flt Lt (later ACM) Parvaiz Mehdi Qureshi’s fighter aircraft was shot down in 1971 , he was saved by Indian Army and held as POW but released Later . In 1997, he was appointed the 8th Chief of Pakistan Air Force .

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Not a big deal

People get shot down. People become POW. People come back and continue with their career and get promoted

What doesn't happen is that gifting your aircraft to the enemy and then getting promoted to become airmarshal of the airforce. This only happens in one airforce ie IAF or Indian Airforce

After gifting your aircraft to the enemy:

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After becoming Airmarshal after gifting your aircraft to the enemy:

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The gifted Gnat in enemy hands:

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