When China Rules the World

[pluto]

holy crap, crap, crap (echo...)

 

[anon45]

It's a Chinese world from here on until at least the 23rd century.

Lol CHINA STRONG!!

China Strong | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

 

[oct605032048]

Lol CHINA STRONG!!

China Strong | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

The Onion!

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Lol CHINA STRONG!!

China Strong | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

LOL the Onion is funny, but this particular article could have been done better.

 

[below_freezing]

Lol CHINA STRONG!!

China Strong | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

The Onion is supposed to post fake news, not real news

 

[oct605032048]

The Onion is supposed to post fake news, not real news

He is just being sarcastic.

 

[gambit]

Gambit is quite insane, and he believes the US air force can wipe out the entire Chinese defence system in the blink of an eye. So can we take him seriously if he stated something like that?

I did? In those exact words?

Guess what, he also stated that he is more qualified to become the commander in chief than Barack Obama, what a joker.

What make you think Barack Obama is 'more qualified' than I am? Do you even know the meaning of 'qualifications'? Do you know 'qualifications' criteria are created and applied?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I did? In those exact words?


What make you think Barack Obama is 'more qualified' than I am? Do you even know the meaning of 'qualifications'? Do you know 'qualifications' criteria are created and applied?

You may have more military experience than either Obama or Clinton, but you are probably the worst military strategist i've seen.

And stop denying, that thread was already deleted by WebMaster, so you can feel free to hide your cowardice of denying.

 

[gambit]

Yes, if you have read American history..you would know this..present day United States of America is completely different country, from which Columbus landed on.

Depends on by the context of 'country'...

Nation - A group of individuals who shares one or many common bonds.

State - A group of individuals who represent the nation in a political manner.

Country - A geographical locale.

Prior to the creation of Israel, global Jewry is a Nation but had no 'State' and what is Israel proper today was only a vaguely defined region called 'Palestine' in the ME. Today there are nations in similar status such as the Gypsy or the Tibetans, the latter blurs the lines between the three items above. As for the word 'country', the Americas is a country that contains many countries as in politicized nation-states that administers their partitions of the greater country. Same for Europe or Asia or Africa.

When Columbus landed on 'The New World', the northern region of the continent is nothing but a 'country' in the most basic context. We would have to look at the Mayans to see an example of a politicized entity in the context of the 'nation-state' that partitioned out a region for their own purposes. So for your argument, it is best to use post-1776 United States rather than the landing of Columbus.

 

[gambit]

You may have more military experience than either Obama or Clinton, but you are probably the worst military strategist i've seen.

Me as 'the worst military strategist'? So sayeth a conscript reject...!!! But for you to say this of me mean you do not know the proper meaning of the word 'strategy' and its related.

And stop denying, that thread was already deleted by WebMaster, so you can feel free to hide your cowardice of denying.

Sure...So sayeth a member of the group that has established persons of exposed liars and frauds.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Me as 'the worst military strategist'? So sayeth a conscript reject...!!! But for you to say this of me mean you do not know the proper meaning of the word 'strategy' and its related.


Sure...So sayeth a member of the group that has established persons of exposed liars and frauds.

Lol, a high school dropout refugee talking about how being a better commander in chief than your President, gimme a break.

If Gambit can be qualified as the commander in chief, then 2012 must turn out to be real.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

The point of simplified Chinese was simplification, not unification. Also, reading and understanding may be different things in India or in the West, but they're mostly the same thing in China.

Regarding your post 148, it's another of those all too frequent attempts at applying theories developed out of the Western context to areas of the globe where the situation is drastically different. China uses characters instead of alphabets, and characters are independent of their pronunciations. Also China is far larger than any European country, and for thousands of years the only practical method for communication from one corner of China to another is through letters. So it's both ridiculous and meaningless to ask whether the spoken words are mutually intelligible. Because spoken language itself was not a practical way of communication across China, and what was practical, namely the written language, was also mutually intelligible.

As I understand, the Chinese language script is known as 甲骨文 (jiăgŭwén) - literally "shell bone writing".

I believe Chinese is written with characters which are known as 漢字 [汉字] (hànzi). The characters were originally pictures of people, animals or other things, but over the centuries they have become increasingly stylised and no longer resemble the things they represent. Many characters have been combined with others to create new ones.

Until the early 20th century, Classical Chinese, 文言 (wényán), was the main form of writing in China. It was standardised during the late Han Dynasty (25-220 AD) and was also used in Korea, Japan and Vietnam before they developed their own writing systems.

In Classical Chinese most words were monosyllabic and written with a single character. However, during the 1920s a new form of written Chinese modelled on spoken Mandarin was developed. Most Chinese publications since then have been written in this form, which is known as 白話 [白话 ] (báihuà), though Classical Chinese constructions and especially proverbs are still used to some extent.

There are approximately 1,700 possible syllables in Mandarin, which compares with over 8,000 in English. As a result, there are many homophones - syllables which sound the same but mean different things. These are distinguished in written Chinese by using different characters for each one.

Homophones are a problem of language, not “script.” The root of this problem lies in the pronunciation of the language (yǔyīn), not in the different ways of spelling the words (cíxíng). Thus, it is inferred that the spoken word s can be unintelligible amongst groups, but not the characters since they are similar and so written correspondence amongst each other would possibly not be a problem.

Remember my signature. Can Ray even speak Urdu, Hindi or Tamil? If not how do we know he is actually Indian and not a CIA agent sitting in Washington DC?

In India, we are proud to state that there are 1,652 different languages in India (including languages not native to the subcontinent). 415 living "Languages of India" (out of 6,912 worldwide). We take pride to keep all the 415 living languages active and the dormant one alive through research institute Central Institute of Indian Languages. We have no fear of the diversity of languages, culture or religion being a threat the the Indian Union and hence have not felt the need to make India a shapeless mass and project to the world that India is but One in everything. Unity in Diversity.

Of course, I do not claim I can speak the 415 living languages of India. Suffice it to say, that I can speak 7 to 8 languages.

Sigh, simplified chinese is a one to one simplification of traditional chinese, partly to increase literacy quickly after founding of PRC and partly to be 'different' from the ROC.

So it is actually more of a divide than a unification purpose.

Interesting point.

Possibly correct.

The simplified characters were not invented by CCP, but it existed long time before when CCP came to power.

KMT started, but the Japanese war stopped the process and then it was done in earnest by Mao is what is known.

That old man must be one, and now i start to doubt his Indian identity.

Some Indian posters are bandwagoning him because of his Anti-China stance, not necessarily he is an ethnic Indian.

Could I be a Chinese with sharper and more definable physiognomy?

 

[Obambam]

Sigh, simplified chinese is a one to one simplification of traditional chinese, partly to increase literacy quickly after founding of PRC and partly to be 'different' from the ROC.

So it is actually more of a divide than a unification purpose.

Being different doesn't necessarily mean that there is interest in a divide.
As of now, we are still speaking the same language are we not?

As I understand, the Chinese language script is known as 甲骨文 (jiăgŭwén) - literally "shell bone writing".

I believe Chinese is written with characters which are known as 漢字 [汉字] (hànzi). The characters were originally pictures of people, animals or other things, but over the centuries they have become increasingly stylised and no longer resemble the things they represent. Many characters have been combined with others to create new ones.

Until the early 20th century, Classical Chinese, 文言 (wényán), was the main form of writing in China. It was standardised during the late Han Dynasty (25-220 AD) and was also used in Korea, Japan and Vietnam before they developed their own writing systems.

In Classical Chinese most words were monosyllabic and written with a single character. However, during the 1920s a new form of written Chinese modelled on spoken Mandarin was developed. Most Chinese publications since then have been written in this form, which is known as 白話 [白话 ] (báihuà), though Classical Chinese constructions and especially proverbs are still used to some extent.

There are approximately 1,700 possible syllables in Mandarin, which compares with over 8,000 in English. As a result, there are many homophones - syllables which sound the same but mean different things. These are distinguished in written Chinese by using different characters for each one.

Homophones are a problem of language, not “script.” The root of this problem lies in the pronunciation of the language (yǔyīn), not in the different ways of spelling the words (cíxíng). Thus, it is inferred that the spoken word s can be unintelligible amongst groups, but not the characters since they are similar and so written correspondence amongst each other would possibly not be a problem.

Under new forum rule, it is advised to provide a link to the source. This is due to copy right.

Chinese script and language

Could I be a Chinese with sharper and more definable physiognomy?

You are as much Chinese as we are Indian

 

[Zulkarneyn]

Tiki Tam Tam, it is pretty apparent that you still bear some caste ideas with you. And that is probably your origin of "hatred" or "rivalry" toward the Chinese members of this forum since they are urging for equality in the society. Social stratification is the root of all evil without any doubt, if some members of the society look down at others, this will create an endless circle of hatred.
One of the reasons the British could integrate or "assimilate" their ideas of societal into the subcontinent was due to the Indian society which already depended on social stratification. Hence, the idea of social injustice was easily integrated to India, and we still today see its remnants and consequences.

 

[monitor]

The PLA’s "Orient Express": Militarization of the Iron Silk Road
Publication: China Brief Volume: 11 Issue: 5
March 25, 2011 01:19 AM
By: Christina Lin




China’s rise on the international stage has been accompanied by an increase in its military's presence. Beijing's expanding ambition is prompting calls on the country's leaders to be more proactive in protecting its national interests. These calls by Chinese analysts have raised concerns about the military's capability to mobilize troops to defend the country's vast borders (Ta Kung Pao [Hong Kong], September 24, 2009; Jing Bao [Hong Kong], January 29, 2010). For example, in the aftermath of the April 2010 Kyrgyzstan crisis when violent protests forced the collapse of the government, Chen Xiangyang, an associate researcher at the Chinese Institute of Contemporary International Relations (CICIR), called for a "Large Periphery" strategy to safeguard China’s neighboring areas. Chen's call was echoed by senior Chinese military leaders about possibly intervening in Central Asia (Ta Kung Pao [Hong Kong], September 24, 2009). The Hong Kong-based Jing Bao back in a January 2010 article argued that railways—and their military significance—need to be infused into Chinese leaders’ strategic lens when exporting railway technology as they enhance military power projection (Jing Bao [Hong Kong], January 29, 2010).

Indeed, in applying this strategic vision, on November 17, 2010, the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) took the Shanghai-Nanjing express train for the first time to return to their barracks after completing security duty at the Shanghai World Expo 2010 (China Army, November 19, 2010). According to the Military Representative Office of the PLA stationed at the Shanghai Railway Bureau, the Shanghai-Nanjing express railway is an inter-city railway that can run at a maximum speed of 350 kilometers (km) per hour. Some Chinese military analysts touted this as an ideal way for the PLA to project troops and light equipment in military operations other than war (MOOTW) (China Army, November 19, 2010).

China has built rail lines to Tibet, is building connections to Nepal, and is planning high-speed rails to Laos, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand and Burma (Myanmar) (Xinhua News Agency, October 17, 2010; Xinhua News Agency, December 8, 2010; Foreign Trade, October 25, 2010). On November 15 last year, then Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki announced that Iran, Afghanistan, and Tajikistan had agreed to cooperate with China to build a China-Iran rail link from Xinjiang, passing through Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan and finally arriving in Iran (People’s Daily Online, November 18; Press TV, December 10, 2010; Global Military, November 20, 2010; South Asia Analysis Group, Paper no. 4178, November 19, 2010). The longer plan seems to connect westward into Iraq (where China has large oil & gas investments), Syria, Turkey, and onto Europe (Press TV, August 6, 2010; See "Syria in China’s New Silk Road Strategy," China Brief, April 16, 2010; August 19, 2010). This is based on an overall UN-sponsored Trans-Asia Railway (TAR) network to link China to Europe, using the Middle East as a transit hub (Move On Inc, November 15, 2010).

Although the UN engineered the TAR agreement, China has done more than any other nation to re-forge trade and transport links to reestablish the Silk Route. Negotiations are already underway with 17 countries across Eurasia. With China's high-speed trains having clocked speeds as high as 486.1 km/h (302 mph) (People’s Daily, September 28, 2010; People’s Daily, December 9, 2010; Xinhua News Agency, December 8, 2010), and the PLA aggressively upgrading its long-range combat capabilities by using rail as logistical support for its air force (PLAAF) and troop projection, this new ‘Orient Express’ across the revived Silk Road will have important military and strategic implications for U.S. and Western interests in the region.

Militarization of the Iron Silk Road

Military requirements are part of China’s rail development, and the PLA actively participates in the design and planning of China’s high-speed rail (Xinhua News Agency, December 7, 2010). For example, Chengdu Railway Bureau has 14 military officers taking lead positions in key departments at all major stations, are tasked to coordinate railway planning, design, construction, timing of requirements and track implementation (Xinhua News Agency, December 7, 2010). Shenyang Railway Bureau, which is in the strategic location of Liaoning Province next to North Korea, Inner Mongolia and the Yellow Sea, has also established a regional military transportation management mechanism with the PLA (Xinhua News Agency, January 12, 2010). According to the Military Transportation Department of the PLA General Logistics Department (GLD), over 1,000 railway stations have been equipped with military transportation facilities, thereby establishing a complete railway support network that enhances the PLA’s strategic projection capability (PLA Daily, February 4, 2010; Defense Professional, February 4, 2010).

GLD had cooperated with the PRC’s Ministry of Railway in 2009, and fulfilled over 100 military requirements for 20 odd railways in China with the capability of military transportation (PLA Daily, February 4, 2010). In 2009, large sums of money were invested to build military transportation facilities for a few railway stations and military platforms for loading and unloading materials. This investment was made to meet military requirements used for activities such as the Shanghai Cooperation Organization's (SCO) Peace Mission in 2010 (PLA Daily, February 4, 2010; Defense Professional, February 4, 2010). GLD is actively involved through the entire process of the railway construction, varying from the programming to the completion of the railways. For example, when building the railway from Kunming, capital of Yunnan Province, to Nanning, capital of Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region, in order to meet troop maneuver requirements the Ministry of Railway had to revise a partial route and prolong 12.4 km of railways at an increased cost of 1.55 billion yuan ($232.66 million) (PLA Daily, February 4, 2010).

With China’s expansionist policy and infrastructure projects toward its neighbors, some analysts are beginning to sound the alarm on the militarization of these projects.

Central, Southeast, and South Asia

For example, Konstantin Syroyezhkin, in Kazakhstan’s Institute of Strategic Studies, points out the rapid development of road and railroad infrastructure in Central Asia with Chinese participation may be used for future PLA troop deployments in case of a serious conflict threatening China’s security or strategic interests (See "China’s Expansionist Policy Toward Kazakhstan Takes a New Turn," Eurasia Daily Monitor, November 17, 2010; Kazakhstanskaya Pravda, November 9, 2010). This concern is corroborated by the recent SCO Peace Mission 2010 military exercise, whereby China transported troops to Kazakhstan by rail (See "China Showcases Expeditionary Military Power in Peace Mission 2010," Eurasia Daily Monitor, September 28, 2010).

Likewise, other countries such as Vietnam, and India, as well as the Tibet Autonomous Region share the same concern. Vietnam for one rejected China’s high-speed railway technology ($32.5 billion) in favor of Japan’s Shinkansen technology ($55 billion) despite its higher cost (Comhaha.com, December 7, 2010). On June 19, 2010, Vietnam’s National Assembly voted down China’s high-speed rail plan. According to Chinese language magazine Yazhou Zhoukan, some Vietnamese politicians oppose adopting Chinese high speed rail technology out of the fear that China might use it to transport PLA troops to invade Vietnam, in reprise of its 1979 Sino-Vietnam War (South China Morning Post, July 19, 2010).

In the Tibet Autonomous Region, China’s high altitude Qinghai-Tibet railway that opened in 2006 is being used as a supply line to enhance PLAAF mobilization capability (People’s Daily, 4 August 2010; PLA Daily, 3 August 2010; The Hindu, August 6, 2010). On August 3, 2010, PLA Daily reported that a train loaded with important air combat readiness material for the PLAAF arrived in Tibet via the railway. China is rapidly upgrading railways and airports in Tibet, with four operational airports and a fifth one under construction (South Asia Analysis Group, Paper No 3966, August 5, 2010; Defense Update, December 20, 2010). During the March 2008 Tibetan protests, the Qinghai Tibet rail enabled rapid PLA deployment. Within 48 hours, at the start of Lhasa riots, T-90/89 armored personnel carriers and T-92 wheeled infantry fighting vehicles appeared on the streets—apparently from the 149th Division of the No. 13 Group Army under the Chengdu Military Regional Command (UPI Asia Online, June 27, 2008). This was indicated by the "leopard" camouflage uniforms specifically designed for mountain warfare operation from the 149th Division (UPI Asia, June 27, 2008). Should Sino-Indian relations ever deteriorate to the verge of military confrontation and if riots in Tibet spread, the PLA’s Mountain Brigades can rapidly deploy to the region via the railway. Indeed, railway and road construction have been China’s Himalayan strategy for decades—as the PLA prepared to annex Tibet, Mao Zedong advised it "to advance while building roads" (Asia Times Online, October 16, 2010).

The PLA’s Military Rail Transport to Greater Middle East?

China-Iran Railway

In October 2010, the transport ministers of China, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan and Iran signed an agreement in Dushanbe, Tajikistan, to commence China-Iran railway construction (Asia Plus [Tajikistan], October 28, 2010). The railway from Xinjiang, China, would pass through Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Afghanistan, arrive in Iran and split into a southern line to the Gulf and a western line to Turkey onto Europe (Global military, November 20, 2010). Earlier in August, China and Iran had signed a $2 billion agreement on construction of the railway network in western Iran, which will continue westward into Iraq, eventually connecting with Syria, Turkey and the Mediterranean coastal countries (People’s Daily Online, October 18, 2010; Press TV, August 28, 2010).

China-Turkey Railway

Around the same time, in October 2010, Turkey and China elevated their relations to one of "strategic partnership," signed deals for high-speed rails in Turkey to eventually link with China, upgraded their military ties, and participated in the traditional NATO air combat exercise of Anatolian Eagle—with China replacing Israel and the United States (The Los Angeles Times, November 16, 2010; See "China-Turkey Strategic Partnership: Implications of Anatolian Eagle," China Brief, January 14). China will extend $30 billion to construct 7,000 km of high-speed rail lines across Turkey, as well as upgrading rail links between Turkey and Pakistan and planning a railway around Lake Van to Iran and Pakistan (Asia News, October 28, 2010; China Daily, October 9, 2010; Today’s Zaman, October 15, 2010; Hurriyet, October 15, 2010). Moreover, China has invited Bulgaria to join Turkey in its Eurasian high-speed rail plan (China Daily, October 29, 2010). China offered huge loans for construction in return for the use of Bulgarian rivers, seaports and airports, as transit hubs onto Western Europe (China Daily, October 29, 2010).

Given the Sino-Turkish strategic partnership and anticipation of future military exercises, Chinese railways could enhance PLA military projection and presence in the Middle East and wider Black Sea region. In addition to Chinese warplanes over the Black Sea region during the October 2010 Anatolian Eagle exercise, Chinese special op forces conducted joint exercises at a Turkey commando school in early November (World Tribune, November 12, 2010; South China Morning Post, November 9, 2010). With reports of PLAAF refueling in Iran en route to Turkey, high-speed rail could enable logistic support and transport of combat readiness materials in the future (Hurriyet, October 11, 2010).

Missing Links—Iraq and Afghanistan

While China is constructing railways across Eurasia, Iraq and Afghanistan still present significant missing links due to the security situation and large presence of U.S. and NATO troops. Yet, when the United States’ draw down, China may try to push for UNPKOs to take over and deploy the PLA under blue berets to protect China’s energy and strategic interests (China Daily, September 28, 2010). It has a $3.4 billion investment in the Aynak copper mine in Afghanistan as well as various oil and gas fields in Iraq (China Daily, September 23, 2010; China Daily, June 10, 2010). China will also likely use SCO to foment regional cooperation for constructing the railways through Afghanistan to Iran, eventually linking with Iraq. China and Iran are not interested in joining western-led initiatives, such as the Transport Corridor of Europe, Caucasus, and Asia (TRACECA), which is also known as the "new Silk Road." Rather, they want to forge their own projects and not be beholden to Western interests or sanctions.

Conclusion

China’s ambitious high-speed rail projects across Asia and the Middle East have important strategic implications. It links up poorer regions with more prosperous regions, provides jobs during an economic downturn, and allows Chinese military and security services to better project power both within and outside the country’s borders. While air transport is faster, it is limited to fewer people and lighter gear, whereas rail is a crucial means for moving soldiers and heavy equipment, and is much easier to sustain logistically.

As China’s economic and energy portfolio continues to increase in the Greater Middle East, there may be future conditions under which the PLA might deploy troops using high-speed rails for MOOTW to protect its strategic interests. Indeed, in January 2011 there were reports that the PLA had deployed troops to the economic zone of Rajin-Sonbong in northeast North Korea in order to "guard port facilities China has invested in" (The Chosun Ilbo, January 17, 2010). Whether this is a telltale sign of what may happen with China’s interests in Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere, will still remain a mystery for the future of the PLA’s Orient Express.