When a single strike reduced IAF by 30%

[$@rJen]

I think reduce the IAF by a single strike by 50% is possible.

I have to say, I am a little angry about India.

If India can not see MH370, a boeing 777, I mean, is there any military plane has bigger RCS? Ruin the whole IAF by one strick is not mission impossible.

I don't have to reply for it... But your Avatar pic says it all

 

[Devil Soul]

 

[kaykay]

Pakistanis were offenders by doing operation Gibraltar but end up being defenders. LOLs enough says.

 

[dexter]

 

[Devil Soul]

take a Chill Pill @ neighbors why ur (_|_) on Fire

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Pakistanis were offenders by doing operation Gibraltar but end up being defenders. LOLs enough says.

Before covert ops Gibraltar India was messing in kargil,run of Kutch etc sectors!


And in 6th the unannounced invasion at night.. Halted for hours by a few hundred men.. Wanted to take lahore ended up with a threat of losing East Punjab ..

Had to retreat.. 30% airforce destroyed?,the div commander who boasted abt having a peg at Gymkhan lahore .. Ran n hid in a sugarcane field to save himself..

Wah ..

 

[Devil Soul]

Eric Hall’s finest hour came in 1965 when as a Group Captain he was commanding the air transport Base at Chaklala. With war being imminent, he was conscious of PAF’s handicap of the lack of heavy bombers. Eric Hall set up to fill this gap. He struck upon the unique idea of converting PAF’s C-130s to the role of ‘Heavy Bombers’. With some modifications these were made capable of carrying upto 20,000 lbs of bombs. Having conducted trials to prove the efficacy of the use of C-130s in this hitherto novel and innovative role, the Group Captain volunteered to lead the first bombing mission that happened to be over Kathua bridge, on 11 September 1965. This was a daring move and one of the finest examples of a commander leading from the cockpit. The mission was not only fraught with danger but the totally unarmed C-130 was also highly vulnerable to enemy action. But the success of this mission that was unique in the history of flying prompted the higher command to authorize thirteen more bombing missions on the C-130 including the precision bombing of Indian heavy guns at Atari on the banks of BRB Canal. The success of all these missions proved that the Air Vice Marshal had hit the bull’s eye it his innovative idea. For his valour and vision, Eric G Hall was awarded Sitara-e-Jurat in 1965.

Wing Commander Mervyn Leslie Middlecoat was another outstanding pilot who deserves special mention. He was a brilliant officer right from the beginning. On his graduation with the 16th GD (P) course in 1954, he was awarded the trophy for the best performance in Ground Subjects.

Soft spoken and mild mannered, Middlecoat was the epitome of an officer and a gentleman besides being an outstanding pilot. Flying different aircraft in his service career, he came to master the F-104 Starfighter.

He was commanding No 9 Squadron during the 1965 War and believed in leading from the front. He kept the morale of the Squadron very high and guided his pilots in a highly professional manner. For his leadership and devotion to duty, Squadron Leader Middlecoat was awarded the Sitara-i-Jurat in 1965.

 

[Windjammer]

Taking a dip in the dirty Ganga makes you more shudh than any pakistani. Fact.

We can clearly see what it does to your brain.....just as well Pakistanis would stay a mile away from your kind.

 

[Devil Soul]

Cecil Chaudhry, the son of Faustian Elmer Chaudhry, the famous Chief Photographer of Pakistan Times, Lahore, was born in 1941. His interest in aircraft and flying brought him to the PAF and he graduated in 1960. He soon established himself professionally and in 1965 was working as Flight Commander (Training) under the renowned Squadron Leader Sarfraz Rafiqui. When war broke out on 6 September, 1965, Cecil busied himself flying numerous Close Support missions to ward off the Indian ground attack against Lahore and Sialkot. He was detailed to fly a dusk strike mission against Halwara under the command of Squadron Leader Rafiqui. There were unavoidable delays in their take-off and Halwara got forewarned because of the successful PAF strike against Pathankot. When Rafiqui, Yunus and Cecil reached their target Halwara, they were intercepted by numerous Hunter aircraft of the Indian Air Force. During the engagement, after shooting down one Indian Hunter, Rafiqui’s guns jammed and he handed over the lead to Cecil. The three fought bravely against heavy odds but Rafiqui and Yunus were shot down while Cecil managed to return safely after shooting down a Hunter. The loss of his mentor Rafiqui and friend Yunus enraged Cecil and he fought the rest of the war aggressively and with determination. For his acts of courage, dedication and professional ability, Cecil received the Sitara-i-Jurat.

Squadron Leader William Desmond Harney, a Navigator of exceptional courage and dedication to duty needs special mention.

Born in Chittagong in 1937, after receiving his early schooling at St. Placids, W.D. Harney joined PAF Academy in 1957 and graduated in 1960.

In 1965, when war broke out, W.D. Harney was posted as Navigator in a Bomber Squadron. During the war, inspite of a hand injury, he voluntarily undertook 14 bombing missions and especially the most hazardous ones to Adampur, Halwara, Jodhpur, Pathankot and Ambala. In all the missions, he excelled in leadership, courage and devotion to duty. His mission-planning and execution of the missions was so meticulous that despite heavy odds, he always reached his targets and contributed significantly to the accuracy of the attacks. For his display of extreme courage and professionalism, W.D. Harney was awarded the Sitara-i-Jurat.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

AIR WAR OF 1965 REVISITED - C-130 Bombing Operations

C-130 Heavy Bomber

On the night of 11/12 September, the first bombing mission was undertaken by Wing Commander Zahid Butt against the target of Kathua Bridge 16 Kms East of Pathankot. This bridge formed a vital link for the supply line to Indian ground troops. Gauging the dangerous nature of the mission, Chaklala's Station Commander Group Captain Eric Hall also went along on the mission. Flight Lieutenant Rizwan was the navigator. They reached the target safely and during the bombing run, they were attacked by an enemy fighter. Wing Commander Zahid Butt took evasive action only after the bombs had been released. On successful return to the base, they discovered a 1 cm bullet hole in the port wing tip.




After the Kathua bombing raid, the next target for the C-130 bombers was a concentration of enemy tanks and guns, three miles north of Ramgarh in the Sialkot Sector. Two C-130s dropped nine tons of bombs each on the night of 15 September and played a major role in shattering the enemy forces moving up for the battle of Chawinda. On the following night, a single C-130 strike was repeated against Ramgarh destroying enemy tanks and guns as well as ammunition and fuel dumps.




On the night of 19th September, two successful C-130s sorties were made against Indian Army concentrations in the vicinity of Rurki and Pagowal, and apart from the resulting material damage, the effect on enemy morale was believed to be devastated.




In the closing stages of the 1965 War, the Indians had amassed their heavy guns close to the BRB canal to concentrate their heavy artillery fire on Lahore. On 21st September a single C-130 dropped ten tons of bombs on the heavy artillery four miles south-east of Jallo. Another C-130 dropped nine tons of bombs on Indian artillery concentration at Valtoha. On 22nd September bad weather hampered PAF strike action against the assembled Indian artillery but the inclement weather did not deter three C-130s taking off that night to find the enemy target and drop their bombs by radar. The target at Atari included an Indian AA Regiment with 72 guns, located in a strip about one mile long running parallel with and close to the BRB canal. The Army was reluctant in giving clearance to the C-130s for fear of breaching the BRB or worse still, the bombs landing on our own troops this side of the canal. Permission was finally granted and the C-130s conducted a highly accurate drop of more than 30 tons of TNT which devastated the Indian artillery. Many independent observers believe this last action by PAF set the Indians clamouring for a ceasefire. Seven officers of the Transport Wing were awarded the Sitara-e-Jurat and 2 JCOSs the Tamgha-e-Jurat.

 

[Devil Soul]

Squadron Leader Peter Christy was a jolly, hard working and dedicated officer. He served as a B-57 Navigator and flew a number of successful operational missions in 1965.

PAF is full of names of Christian officers and men who have contributed significantly to the formation of PAF and later kept the national banner flying with courage, dedication and dignity. To name a few, ‘Edwin Nazirullah, Steve Joseph, James Jebb, Patric Callaghan, Stephen Israel, M.J. O’Brain, Springett and Game amongst the pioneering pilots with Leslie de’ Cruz the Navigator, Alfred Jagivan the Air Gunner, Marston the Armament Officer, Robert Ritchie, J.E. Lewis, H.J. Caldens, J.M. Octavious and H.W. Highland the Admin Officers and C.M. Revis the Education Officer among the pioneers. Later John Carrapiett and Saleem Gohar who fought valiantly in the Indo Pak Wars.

Out of these, besides Eric Hall, Steve Joseph and M. J. O’Brain also rose to the rank of Air Vice Marshal and achieved the penultimate position in PAF and served as the Deputy Chief of Air Staff. Air Vice Marshal O’Brain also achieved a rare distinction as having been so far the only PAF Officer to serve as the Commandant of National Defence College.

It is interesting to note that out of a total of 70 Sitara-e-Jurats awarded to PAF officers in both the Wars, seven were won by Christian officers.

The tradition continues till today as the mantle is passed on to generation after generation of Christians in PAF who continue to give their best to PAF and their country as an embodiment to Quaid’s dream and message.

The faces and the names of the men in blue
shall be ever-changing,
With each generation that will prevail in its time,
and then pass on into history.
But the courage and the honour
of the Pakistan Air Force
shall endure forever,
for they are its very heart and soul.

why should we on fire we beat the Pakistani back to Lahore, kashmir chaley thay lenay lahore bachatey bachtey dam nikal gaya

Dil kay Behlanay Ko Ghalib yeah Khayal accha hai... lagay rahoo Bhangi baba

 

[HariPrasad]

Yours and your country fellows posts prove who is more attracted to such threads.....with a 100% contribution by nonsensical butt hurt blabbering........good......serves the very purpose. !!

You have the liberty to post all nonsense on the thread to satisfy yourself believing that Indians are butt hurt. Any how these sort of stories aimed and foolish domestic audience is a source of amusement on the forum. You can keep it up if it give it some relief to your but hurt for many historical reason. That is why I said that saying 70% would have have given you more much needed relief.

 

[Windjammer]

 

[kaykay]

Before covert ops Gibraltar India was messing in kargil,run of Kutch etc sectors!


And in 6th the unannounced invasion at night.. Halted for hours by a few hundred men.. Wanted to take lahore ended up with a threat of losing East Punjab ..

Had to retreat.. 30% airforce destroyed?,the div commander who boasted abt having a peg at Gymkhan lahore .. Ran n hid in a sugarcane field to save himself..

Wah ..

LOLs as usual face saving. You were offender and its a fact and end up barely saving your a$$ that too at the cost of more soldiers lives and land. Enough says. also after 6 years we created a whole new country out of you. hahahaha

 

[dexter]

F O Nirmal Jit Singh Sekhon's Gnat(aka saber slayer) in the gunsight of F L Salim Baig Mirza's F-86F..jpg

HAL Ajeet on F-86F gunsight.

iaf hunter moments before shot down

Another MM Alam's hunter victim going down in flames.

IAF Vampire wreckage

Our war trophy ! now indians will tear me apart

IAF Oregon

MM Alam with his sabre