what will Vietnam be-----Asia Ukraine?

[Viet]

As big brother, we have to watch out for the little guys in our corner.

you don´t get it, do you?
we want to get rid of china. you now have more time to take care of others.

 

[mrfly911]

The entire Viet economy depends on China. Without the Chinese investment, market and technology, the Viet economy will collapse.
Viets also depend of the revenue you earn from exporting your women to China.

So sad, but yes, you're right.

Vietnam doesn't need any from China, poor quality

No, we need a lot of thing from China.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Vietnam is more like Greece

Will Vietnam Become SE Asia’s Greece? | The Diplomat

Hope it won't share its faith.

 

[Viet]

So sad, but yes, you're right.

No, we need a lot of thing from China.

yes, still, but we must work to achieve the goal to become more independent, so we can get rid of them in one day.
in short: less china, more japan.
the lesser we depend on chinese goods, services and relationship, the lesser they can blackmail us.

 

[xunzi]

you don´t get it, do you?
we want to get rid of china. you now have more time to take care of others.

LOL Reality is not what you like.

 

[mrfly911]

yes, still, but we must work to achieve the goal to become more independent, so we can get rid of them in one day.
in short: less china, more japan.
the lesser we depend on chinese goods, services and relationship, the lesser they can blackmail us.

Yes, I hope so.
But it's an extremely thing to do

 

[vtnsx]

You see, my friend. Back in the day, post WWII, the West led by the US and anyone who allied with the US back then enjoyed access to the West market, technological expertise, TOT, and money to fund infrastructure and that how those allies grew rich together under the US leadership. But there is a price to pay for that richness. You have to offer your land up for US to base and of course your women were offer to the US GI. That is just the reality of working with the US. They don't offer you this prosperous life without condition and benefit. During those day, the Communists hate Capitalists because of these exploitation. Today you are late to that party. The West is declining. Their technological lead is being challenged and narrow by the East, mostly led by China. Money is tight in the West sphere. They need those money to fund their own development. They are not going to spend outlandishly like they used to.

For you, what you choose is none of our business and we don't care. Our money is not going to be wasted and technology will not transfer to you. So of course you will make better deal with the US if they have any money left to help you. It is their issue. We remain commit to helping those we like.

Did your government feed you poison? you sound so ignorant. Germany has been a US puppet ever since Hitler was defeated. Women being raped by US GI are everywhere including Chinese women and vice versa. That's beside the point. Why I trust US technologies over Chinese ones? because they have what's called Human rights and freedom which you Chinese are clueless about. China doesn't have money, you're still in the 3rd world rank. For you to become wealthy, you would need to kill off 60% of your own people. Your population is growing so fast that you cannot even keep up with food supplies and clean water. It is much more difficult for China to control its population than for the Americans and Vietnam. The west is not declining. The west is approaching a stabilization point. Declination is part of the economic cycle then there is a point called the recovery cycle which you Chinese would never understand yet. Stop acting like you're better than us when you're not. Most of the product that are made in China were all designed and engineered in the West. It's because of China's massive population and competitive advantages for labor, the west decided to invest in China for only that reason, nothing else. Products that are made in China without Western management are considered low quality.

Yes, any kind of development here is expensive without the help of cheap labor like China would supply. Quality of life is expensive which China cannot supply to all its people.

Yes, I hope so.
But it's an extremely thing to do

I wanna slap you. Wake up and dream bigger.

 

[Viet]

LOL Reality is not what you like.

sure, as soon as we get rid of you, we will begin to turn the common border into a demilitarized zone, like between North and South Korea, with high walls, mines and other useful things.

 

[vtnsx]

So sad, but yes, you're right.

No, we need a lot of thing from China.

We don't need anything from China. We need our own people to be more educated, more entrepreneurs, pioneers, visionaries, etc. Dream bigger, dream for something impossible but not impossible to build. A completely different view in life. With knowledge, you can do anything.

 

[mrfly911]

We don't need anything from China. We need our own people to be more educated, more entrepreneurs, pioneers, visionaries, etc. Dream bigger, dream for something impossible but not impossible to build. A completely different view in life. With knowledge, you can do anything.

Thank you man!
But do you read newspaper daily? Many big projects of our nation are belong to China company. Almost of our agricultural products are exported to China, bla bla...
I have a dream, but not a daydream.

 

[xesy]

Yes, I hope so.
But it's an extremely thing to do

These are hard times, bro. But if we don't do it, it will be too late for our children to do so.

So stop being pessimistic. We don't kneel down before anyone.

 

[Echo_419]

The entire Viet economy depends on China. Without the Chinese investment, market and technology, the Viet economy will collapse.

Viets also depend of the revenue you earn from exporting your women to China.

Dude their is a fine line btw trolling & getting personal,I suggest you remove your comment & appolgise for what you just said

 

[vtnsx]

Thank you man!
But do you read newspaper daily? Many big projects of our nation are belong to China company. Almost of our agricultural products are exported to China, bla bla...
I have a dream, but not a daydream.

that's because people in China would buy them and also it is much closer to sell. However, the best trading partner vietnam should make is the EU, Japan and West (Canada and USA) and South American. When I said dream bigger I mean globalization.

If you'tr curious enough and determined, you can get anything done.

 

[cnleio]

It depond on senior members inside VCP, whether they willing to change Vietnam political regime and abandon their power like Gorbachev.

that's because people in China would buy them and also it is much closer to sell. However, the best trading partner vietnam should make is the EU, Japan and West (Canada and USA) and South American. When I said dream bigger I mean globalization.

It doesn't u want to sell then u can sell everything to EU, Japan and West ... Do u hear the business competition ? What's advantage between Made in Vietnam and Made in China, how cheaper, how good quality ?

The more cheaper place in South-America and Africa.

 

[yusheng]

sure, as soon as we get rid of you, we will begin to turn the common border into a demilitarized zone, like between North and South Korea, with high walls, mines and other useful things.

Viet friend, i know you love your country, love you people.
but Vietnam and China are there, i don't think you can get rid of China, today no county on this planet can get rid of China. and more over we have tangled for more than thousand years. we should find solutions that satisfy both countries, i believe we can.
don;t be so emotional, let the problems to these wiser leaders.