What Pisses Me Off About The European Migrant Crisis

[Penguin]

@Thəorətic Muslim

Arms transfer from The Netherlands to Saudi/Kuwaiti/UAE/Bahraini 1994 to 2014 (from Sipri)

Bahrain
S: Netherlands
13 M-110A2 203mm Self-propelled gun 1993 1994 13 Second-hand; part of $7.5 m deal
3 M-113 APC 1993 1994 3 Second-hand; part of $7.5 m deal;
M-577A1 CP version
25 AIFV IFV (1995) 1996 25 Second-hand
35 M-113C&R Reconnaissance AV 1997 1997-1998 35 Second-hand

Saudi Arabia
S: Netherlands
(225) SQUIRE Ground surv radar 2009 2011-2014 (175) Sold via French company (part of 'Miksa' deal); for border security

UAE
L: Netherlands
2 FOPV-850 Corvette 2014 AED1 b ($272 m) deal; for coast guard; with hulls from Romanian production line fitted out in Abu Dhabi
S: Netherlands
(87) M-109A1 155mm Self-propelled gun 1995 1997-1999 (87) Second-hand; M-109A3 version; modernized (incl with Swiss gun and South African fire control system) to M-109L47 before delivery for $32 m; for Abu Dhabi
2 Goalkeeper CIWS 1996 1997-1998 2 For modernization of 2 Kortenaer frigates
2 Kortenaer Frigate 1996 1997-1998 2 Second-hand; $320 m deal; modernized before delivery; UAE designation Abu Dhabi
10 Scout Sea search radar 1996 1997-2001 (10) For modernization of 2 Kortenaer frigates, 6 TNC-45 FAC and 2 other ships

What NL Imports and where from:
OEC: Netherlands (NLD) Profile of Exports, Imports and Trade Partners

The Netherlands pays more for oil imports than the US but less than Australia
Energy - Crude oil import prices - OECD Data

• The Netherlands is the second-largest producer and exporter of natural gas in Europe, following Norway, and the Netherlands is home to Europe's largest natural gas trading hub in terms of spot volumes.

• The Netherlands is a major petroleum liquids refining and storage center.

• Petroleum accounted for just over half of Dutch energy consumption in 2012. EIA estimates that the Netherlands consumed about 980,000 bbl/d of oil in 2014, but domestically produced only 66,000 bbl/d. The country imported crude oil primarily from Russia, Norway, Nigeria, the United Kingdom, and Saudi Arabia.

Netherlands - International - Analysis - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)


Yeah lots of arms for oil ....

 

[Gabriel92]

Dream on ,some thought that way in the Iberian peninsula some hundreds of years ago.Heck,they had all to themselves until some nasty Aragonese,Castilians,Portuguese showed them the door and pushed them into the sea.It's nice to see your dreams of breeding out the hosts,but the hosts will cancel this nightmare when they'll have enough,and the time is ticking.

Whats goin on today is an insult to those that fought in Gaule against muslim expension. But time will come when we will repeat that.

 

[Spectre]

You certainly are joking.

This is not how the science of biology and demographics work. In these sciences, it does not matter whether police or firefighters are there. It does not matter what the quality of life is. All that matter is the fertility rate.

Got that? FERTILITY RATE.

Because in a few decades, a community with a fertility rate of 5.5, would outnumber a community with a fertility rate of 1.5.

It is simple mathematics. In the next century, it would not matter whether the great grand fathers of the French were living in Ghettos. All that will matter will be that those fathers did their job. They pollinated the flowers that blossomed to make a new France.

Demographic advantage is undeniable and that scares a lot of nations who have no answer for it. Their only hope lies in preventing this immense advantage from ever being harnessed and that is the long game being played here.

When you turn a region into war-zone then there is no education, no employment, no growth prospects and the same demographic advantage turns into a mill stone around the neck. The uneducated, impoverished, hungry masses become a burden instead of an asset. In this chaos - monstrosities like ISIS thrive making it impossible for these societies to progress.

As I have stated in my earlier post, the age of tactic of British of Divide and Rule is being applied again with a renewed fervor and new packaging. Sadly some countries are ever willing to act as facilitators after being blinded by the lure of Western Baubles.

 

[VCheng]

You are amazing. Why do you think these guys are complaining? This is the most important reason, if not the only one. Their genes are recessive. They are scared of being wiped out. Or are you that innocent?

Sir, I bow to your superior intelligence and knowledge, and bow out of this thread.

 

[MarkusS]

You certainly are joking.

This is not how the science of biology and demographics work. In these sciences, it does not matter whether police or firefighters are there. It does not matter what the quality of life is. All that matter is the fertility rate.

Got that? FERTILITY RATE.

Because in a few decades, a community with a fertility rate of 5.5, would outnumber a community with a fertility rate of 1.5.

It is simple mathematics. In the next century, it would not matter whether the great grand fathers of the French were living in Ghettos. All that will matter will be that those fathers did their job. They pollinated the flowers that blossomed to make a new France.

They get eliminated as we always did. So what are you talking about? Europe has a history of cleaning itself pretty spectacular once people get fed up.

 

[Steve781]

I knew it was too good to last. Cameron lost his balls after a single day.
David Cameron vows to review asylum policy as pressure grows | Daily Mail Online

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I do not know. I do not care. @Atanz was saying their women love to have fun with these young gentlemen from Africa. I believe it is true. And their men then come here and bittcchh about it, complaining to us.

I am sick and tired of their complaining.

Go to London and you will see. What the blacks do is they rarely bother getting married. They just bounce around having kids from differant woman and in between "rapping".. I have never been to USA but from the media I get the feeling the same "jungle fever" is widespread there also. I have friends in the UK taxi trade in on Friday nights they tell me they are shocked at the number of black guy's going home with some drunk white girl. Meantime her brother/husband will be busy bashing the "Moooslems".

And you gotta kinda feel sorry for the black woman because of course the "spare white" guy's won't go with them and frankly I can see why. Anyhows they have found new fertile ground in Chinese girls .............. Bizzare. I guess globalization taking place?

And by the way Obaa Maa is example of this. He is a product of this African cottage industry and made it to the White House.

"As Britain’s mixed-race population swells, another group appears destined to shrink. The Labour Force Survey reveals that 48% of black Caribbean men and 34% of black Caribbean women in couples are with partners of a different ethnic group—with higher proportions still among younger cohorts. Black Caribbean children under ten years old are outnumbered two-to-one by children who are a mixture of white and black Caribbean"

Who Stole all the Black Women from Britain? | Media Diversified

http://www.economist.com/news/brita...britain-changing-neighbourhoodsand-perplexing

 

[Penguin]

Bahrain
S: United Kingdom 1 BAe-146 Transport aircraft 2001 2001 1 $25 m deal; Avro RJ-85 version
3 T-67 Firefly Trainer aircraft 2002 2003 3 T-67M260 version
6 Hawk-100 Trainer/combat ac 2003 2006 6 Hawk-129 version; possibly option on 6 more

Kuwait
S: United Kingdom 16 EMB-312 Tucano Trainer aircraft 1989 1995 (16) Tucano T-52 version
254 MCV-80 Warrior IFV 1993 1995-1997 254 $740 m deal (offsets 30%); incl 21 command post, repair and ARV versions
(250) Starburst Portable SAM 1993 1995 (250) GBP50 m ($80 m; incl 50 launchers)
8 Seaspray MP aircraft radar (1995) 1999-2000 8 For 8 P-37BRL (Combattante-1 or Um Almaradim) FAC from France
(80) Sea Skua Anti-ship missile 1997 2000 (80) $89 m deal; Sea Skua SL version; for 8 PB-37BRL FAC
(10) RMTS IFV turret 2007 2010-2011 (10) For Desert Chameleon IFV from USA

Saudi Arabia
L: United Kingdom (50) MSTAR Ground surv radar (1997) 1998-2000 (50) Assembled from kits in Saudi Arabia
S: United Kingdom 3 Sandown Minehunter 1988 1991-1997 3 Part of $7 b 'Al Yamamah-1' deal; Saudi designation Al Jawf; option on 3 more not used
(250) ALARM ARM (1991) 1991-1998 (250) Part of $7 b 'Al Yamamah-1' deal
20 Hawk-60 Trainer/combat ac 1993 1997 20 Part of $17 b 'Al Yamamah-2' deal; Hawk-65A version
48 Tornado IDS FGA aircraft 1993 1996-1998 48 Part of $17 b 'Al Yamamah-2' deal; incl 6 reconnaissance version; originally 12 Tornado IDS and 36 Tornado ADV version planned, but ADV version changed to IDS after US allowed delivery of F-15C for interceptor (but not for FGA) role
73 AMS 120mm Mortar turret 1996 2000 (73) $57 m deal (incl ammunition from Belgium); for 73 Piranha/LAV AFSVs delivered from Canada
100 Paveway Guided bomb 1999 2000 100 Second-hand; Paveway-3 version
(261) Tactica APC (2006) 2008-2009 (261) For National Guard; incl from Belgian production line
72 Typhoon FGA aircraft 2007 2009-2014 (45) GBP4.4 b deal (part of up to GBP20 b 'Project Salam'); Typhoon F-2 (Typhoon Tranche-2) version
3 Air refuel system Air refuel system 2008 2011-2012 (3) For 3 A-330 MRTT tanker/transport aircraft from Spain
(1000) Brimstone ASM (2008) 2011-2014 (1000) For Tornado combat aircraft
3 Air refuel system Air refuel system 2009 2014 1 For 3 A-330 MRTT tanker/transport aircraft from Spain
(350) Storm Shadow/SCALP ASM (2009) 2011-2013 (350) For modernized Tornado combat aircraft
22 Hawk-100 Trainer/combat ac (2012) Part of GBP1.6 b deal; Hawk AJT version; delivery from 2016
(2400) Paveway Guided bomb 2013 GBP150 m ($250 m) deal; Paveway-4 version; for Typhoon and modernized Tornado combat aircraft; delivery 2015
. . Storm Shadow/SCALP ASM 2013 For Tornado and/or Typhoon combat aircraft
. . Meteor BVRAAM (2014) For Typhoon combat aircraft

UAE
S: United Kingdom (1750) PGM-500/PGM-2000 ASM 1985 1989-1998 (1750) For Mirage-2000 combat aircraft; PGM-500 and PGM-2000 versions; also designated Hakeem or Al Hakeem and PGM-1A/B and possibly PGM-2
18 Hawk-100 Trainer/combat ac 1989 1993-1994 18 $175 m deal; for Abu Dhabi; Hawk-102 version
4 Hawk-50 Trainer/combat ac (1994) 1995 4 For Abu Dhabi; Hawk Mk-63C version
2 Protector Patrol craft 1998 1999 2 For Coast Guard
1 Learjet-35/36 Light transport ac (2000) 2001 1 Second-hand; for target-towing; Learjet-35A version
1 Learjet-35/36 Light transport ac 2004 2004 1 Second-hand; Learjet-35A version
3 Air refuel system Air refuel system 2008 2013 3 For 3 A-330 MRTT tanker/transport aircraft from Spain
6 Trent Turbofan 2008 2013 6 For 3 A-330 MRTT tanker/transport aircraft from Spain; Trent-772B version


LOTS OF ARMS, BUT LITTLE OIL!!!

 

[flamer84]

I knew it was too good to last. Cameron lost his balls after a single day.
David Cameron vows to review asylum policy as pressure grows | Daily Mail Online

Luckily for Europe,it found unlikely heroes in Victor Orban (as much as i dislike him) and other EE states.The Hungarian dude just told the farts in Bruxelles and Germany to piss off,if they want immigrants,they can have them.The Czech Republic just said it will change its laws and won't have any "refugees"...0,nada,rien,nothing.Same for Slovakia ,Poland.

Seriously though,some of you Westerners are insane,i'm reading a leftist forum where Eastern Europeans get attacked for not sharing "European values".It's a troll fest East vs West,some German politicians suggested cutting EU funds for Eastern states.Oh well,bye bye EU,keep your "funds" and all the immigrants in the world.

 

[Penguin]

German oil imports by country

Bahrain
S: Germany (FRG) 2 Bo-105C Light helicopter (1993) 1994 2 Bo-105CBS-5 version; incl for SAR and MP

Kuwait
S: Germany (FRG) 15 TM-170 Hermelin APC (1993) 1994 15 For police
16 MTU-538 Diesel engine (1995) 1999-2000 16 For 8 P-37BRL (Combattante-1 or Um Almaradim) FAC from France
(54) BF-12L413 Diesel engine 1998 2000-2001 (54) For 27 PLZ-45 self propelled guns and 27 PCV-45 ALV from China, from Chinese production line
(48) BF-12L413 Diesel engine 2001 2002-2003 (48) For 24 PLZ-45 self propelled guns and 24 PCV-45 ALV from China; from Chinese production line
8 Condor APC (2003) 2004 8 For National Guard; Condor-2 version

Saudi Arabia
S: Germany (FRG) (100) Deutz V-10 Diesel engine (1995) 1998-2005 (100) For 100 AF-40-8-1 APC produced in Saudi Arabia
(80) OM-366 Diesel engine 2006 2010-2011 (80) For 80 CAESAR self-propelled guns from France
(54) BF-12L413 Diesel engine (2007) 2008-2009 (54) For 54 PLZ-45 self propelled guns from China; from Chinese production line
(1400) IRIS-T SRAAM 2009 2010-2014 (1400) For Tornado and Typhoon combat aircraft
(20) OM-366 Diesel engine (2009) 2011 (20) For 20 CAESAR self-propelled guns from France
(10) Luna UAV 2010 2011-2012 (10)
(32) OM-366 Diesel engine 2011 2013-2014 (32) For 32 CAESAR self-propelled guns from France
(73) OM-924 Diesel engine 2011 2013-2014 (73) For 73 Aravis APC from France
(191) OM-924 Diesel engine 2012 2014 (150) For 191 Aravis APC from France
(33) FPB-41 Patrol craft 2014 Designation uncertain (reported as 'patrol boats')

UAE
S: Germany (FRG) 436 MTU-883 Diesel engine 1993 1994-2010 (436) For 390 Leclerc tanks and 46 Leclerc ARV from France
12 G-115 Trainer aircraft 1995 1997 (12) $5.5 m deal; G-115TA version; option on 12 more not used
(24) BF6M Diesel engine 2002 2003 (24) For 24 BTR-3U IFV from Ukraine; engines fitted in UAE
85 BF6M Diesel engine 2003 2004-2005 (85) For modernization of 85 M-109L-47 self-propelled guns; BF-6M-1015CP version
(24) MTU-595 Diesel engine (2003) 2011-2014 16 For 6 Baynunah corvettes from France
32 Tpz-1 Fuchs APC 2005 2007-2009 (32) EUR160 m ($205 m) deal; Fuchs-2 version; incl 16 NBC and 8 biological warfare reconnaissance and 8 command post version
2 Frankenthal/Type-332 MCM ship 2006 2006 2 Second-hand
3 COBRA Arty locating radar 2009 2010 (3)
(24) MTU-2000 Diesel engine 2009 2013-2014 (24) For 12 Ghannatha FAC from Sweden
4 MTU-4000 Diesel engine 2010 2013 4 For 2 Falaj-2 corvettes from Italy
2 Rmah Support ship 2011 2014 2 Possibly incl for minelaying


LOTS OF ARMS, LITTLE OIL

 

[Steve781]

Luckily for Europe,it found unlikely heroes in Victor Orban (as much as i dislike him) and other EE states.The Hungarian dude just told the farts in Bruxelles and Germany to piss off,if they want immigrants,they can have them.The Czech Republic just said it will change its laws and won't have any "refugees"...0,nada,rien,nothing.Same for Slovakia ,Poland.

Seriously though,some of you Westerners are insane,i'm reading a leftist forum where Eastern Europeans get attacked for not sharing "European values".It's a troll fest East vs West,some German politicians suggested cutting EU funds for Eastern states.Oh well,bye bye EU,keep your "funds" and all the immigrants in the world.

Hopefully Schengen will be broken up soon.

 

[Penguin]

France oil imports

Bahrain
S: France (1) Crotale SAM system (1994) 1995 (1) Supplier uncertain
(30) R-440 Crotale SAM (1994) 1995 (30) Supplier uncertain
(20) Black Scorpion APC/APV (2009) 2011-2014 (20) Probably assembled in Bahrain; Bahraini designation probably Faisal
(17) MM-40 Exocet Anti-ship missile (2009) 2010 (17) Designation uncertain (reported as missiles)

Kuwait
S: France 8 P-37BRL FAC 1995 1999-2000 8 $475 m 'Garoh' deal; Kuwaiti designation Um Almaradim; also designated Combattante-1; replacing ships lost during 1990-1991 Gulf War
1 TRS-22XX Air search radar 1995 1998 1 $54 m deal
20 VBL APV (1997) 1997 20
320 HOT-2 Anti-tank missile 1999 1999 320 Designation uncertain
2 AS365/AS565 Panther Helicopter (2002) 2005 2 For police
(20) VBL APV 2008 2009 20 VBL Mk-2 version

Saudi Arabia
S: France 3 F-3000S Frigate 1994 2002-2004 3 Part of $3.4 b 'Sawari-2' deal (offsets 35%); also designated Modified La Fayette; Saudi designation Al Riyadh
(50) MM-40 Exocet Anti-ship missile 1994 2000-2005 (50) For F-3000S (Al Riyadh) frigates; MM-40 Block-2 version
(249) HOT-2 Anti-tank missile (1995) 1997 249 Designation uncertain
12 AS-532U2 Cougar Helicopter 1996 1998-2001 12 $508 m 'Al Fahd'; armed AS-532A2 CSAR version
(14) ACMAT APC APC (1997) 1998 (14) For police
(75) ASTER-15 SAAM SAM (1997) 2002-2004 (75) For F-3000S (Al Riyadh) frigates
(40) F17 550mm AS/ASW torpedo (1997) 2002-2004 (40) For F-3000S (Al Riyadh) frigates
(2) VBL APV (1997) 1997 2
(30) VLRA TPK-BL APC (2005) 2006-2007 30 Possibly for police
(6) AS565M Panther Helicopter (2006) 2010-2011 (6)
(80) CAESAR 155mm Self-propelled gun 2006 2010-2011 (80) For National Guard
(1000) Mistral Portable SAM 2006 2007-2010 (1000) EUR500 m deal; for National Guard
(25) 2R2M 120MM Mortar 2007 2009-2010 (25) For M-113 mortar carrier; for National Guard
(30) Damocles Aircraft EO system (2007) 2009-2014 (30) For Tornado and Typhoon combat aircraft; possibly incl assembly or production of components in Saudi Arabia
20 CAESAR 155mm Self-propelled gun (2009) 2011 (20) For National Guard
73 Aravis APC 2011 2013-2014 (73) For National Guard
(1000) BONUS-2 Guided shell (2011) 2012-2013 (1000)
32 CAESAR 155mm Self-propelled gun 2011 2013-2014 (32) EUR169 m deal; assembled from kits in Saudi Arabia
20 Ground Master-60 Air search radar 2011 2013-2014 (6) Part of IMGP command/control systems for use with MPCV SAM system
(800) Mistral Portable SAM 2011 2013-2014 (460) Mistral-2 version for MPCV SAM systems
(49) MPCV Mobile AD system 2011 2013-2014 (29) For National Guard
191 Aravis APC 2012 2014 (120) For National Guard
(100) MILAN Anti-tank missile (2013) 2014 (100) For use on M-ATV armoured vehicles
(130) Mistral Portable SAM 2013 For Simbad RC system on 2 Boraida support ships

UAE
L: France 4 Baynunah Corvette 2003 2011-2014 4 $500-545 m 'Project Baynunah' (incl $205 m for French shipyard); 3 assembled in UAE
2 Baynunah Corvette 2005 AED1 b ($272 m) deal; part of 'Project Baynunah'
S: France 500 Mistral Portable SAM 1988 1993-1994 (500) For Abu Dhabi; deal incl also ATLAS launchers
390 Leclerc Tank 1993 1994-2006 (390) Part of $3.4 b deal (offsets 60%); incl 2 Driver Training Tank version
(28) Leclerc DNG ARV 1993 1997-2004 (28) Part of $3.4 b deal (offsets 60%)
18 Leclerc EPG AEV 1993 2008-2010 (18) Part of $3.4 b deal (offsets 60%); originally ordered as ARV but order changed to AEV
(10) AM-39 Exocet Anti-ship missile 1995 1995 (10) Deal worth $60 m incl modernization of UAE AS-332 to ASW/AS version
7 AS565S Panther ASW helicopter 1995 1999-2004 (7) $230 m deal; AS-565SB version; for Abu Dhabi
(60) AS-15TT Anti-ship missile (1997) 1999-2000 (60) For AS-565SB helicopters; for Abu Dhabi
(30) AS-15TT Anti-ship missile (1997) 2001-2002 (30) For AS-565SB helicopters; for Dubai
(4) AS565S Panther ASW helicopter 1997 2001-2002 (4) AS-565SB version; for Dubai
(500) MICA BVRAAM 1998 2003-2007 (500) For Mirage-2000-9 combat aircraft
(62) Mirage-2000-5 Mk-2 FGA aircraft 1998 2003-2007 (62) $3.4 b 'Bader-21' deal; ordered after USA refused sale of F-16 combat aircraft with long-range ASM capablity; Mirage-2000-9 version; incl 32 UAE Mirage-2000 rebuilt to Mirage-2000-9
500 R-550 Magic-2 SRAAM (1998) 2003-2007 (500) For Mirage 2000-9 combat aircraft
(600) Storm Shadow/SCALP ASM 1998 2003-2008 (600) Black Shaheen version (with reduced range to conform to 300km MTCR limits); for Mirage-2000-9 combat aircraft
(14) AS-350/AS-550 Fennec Light helicopter 1999 2001-2002 (14) FFR165 m ($27 m) deal; for Dubai; incl for training; AS-350B3 version
(15) AS-550C2 Fennec Combat helicopter 2000 2002-2005 15 AS-550C3 version
(30) AM-39 Exocet Anti-ship missile (2002) 2003 30
24 VBL APV 2003 2004 24
(62) Damocles Aircraft EO system (2004) 2005-2007 (62) For Mirage-2000-9 combat aircraft
150 MM-40-3 Exocet Anti-ship MI/SSM 2006 2010-2014 (91) Part of EUR400 m deal; for Baynunah corvettes and probably for Abu Dhabi frigate and Falaj-2 covettes
1 CAPTAS VDS ASW sonar (2009) 2013 1 For 1 Abu Dhabi frigate from Italy; CAPTAS Nano or CAPTAS Mk-2 version
2 Ocean Master MP aircraft radar 2009 2012 2 For modification of 2 Dash-8 transport aircraft to MP aircraft in Canada
1 UMS-4110 ASW sonar (2009) 2013 1 For 1 Abu Dhabi frigate from Italy
(20) MICA BVRAAM (2011) 2013 (20) VL-MICA SAM version; For Falaj-2 corvettes
17 Ground Master-200 Air search radar 2013 $396 m deal
2 Helios-2 Recce satellite (2013) EUR700 m deal; Pleiades version

EVEN MORE ARMS, LITTLE OIL!

 

[flamer84]

Hopefully Schengen will be broken up soon.

That won't stop Western states from moaning when an Eastern state like Hungary builds a fence and tries to stop the Horde from entering as you have no balls in stopping them at your borders.

 

[Gabriel92]

@flamer84 Between the western puzzies there are still the French... majority of us dont want more so called refugees. I really respect eastern europeans you cant fck with them... try to settle in Poland or Hungary.. wait for the surprise.

 

[Steve781]

That won't stop Western states from moaning when an Eastern state like Hungary builds a fence and tries to stop the Horde from entering as you have no balls in stopping them at your borders.

Italy and Greece need to do what Australia did.

@flamer84 Between the western puzzies there are still the French... majority of us dont want more so called refugees. I really respect eastern europeans you cant fck with them... try to settle in Poland or Hungary.. wait for the surprise.

The people who cry "compassion" are exactly the people within whose neighbourhoods none of them will be settling.