What is the Terminal velocity of a Ballistic Missile Warhead? Mach 17 here.

[Safriz]

Shaheen 3 quotted speed is mach 18 not mach 15... just a correction from our discussion the other day

22226 KPH was said to be the speed of Shaheen-3 by SPD official at IDEAS.

 

[Mrc]

22226 KPH was said to be the speed of Shaheen-3 by SPD official at IDEAS.

Mach 23 is maximum icbm speed.. any thing faster will really go ballistic and leave the earths orbit...

Mach 18 is really too fast for any known defence system..

U can loft the trajectory and achieve mach 20+.at reentry.. thats like travelling whole M2 motorway in less than a minute..u dont have to manneuver (though u have the option.. ) ... thats too fast even for thaad or gmd

U will lose range in lofted trajectory... but thats not even an issue in pak india scenario... in US russia and china ... yes its an issue...

 

[kṣamā]

hummm..the kid's ego is now getting hurt
You seem to be some college/university kid, may be doing some degree with research as part of it. If you had not been trying to peddle yourself as an expert here by such pin pricks.. it is a good hobby and good for you. But do not try to look smarter than you are.. what you were trying to pass as an expert is just introductory stuff to electronics..

And what you spitted out as links and images is 'proof'?

What you say is true. @amardeep mishra or myself may not be "Professional" per say. We can analyze things on technical level bcoz looking through religious or nationalistic prism, we cannot quantify stuff. Like how can you discuss something without a common measure? Hence we post relevant research or own work rather than propagating lunacy.

Now you can claim that any technical data posted which dose not support your narrative as:

comments so complicated that nobody will understand them.

Then the problem lies with you. You can make an effort to learn from it. The post itself may not explain you everything but gives you the starting point.

Before you hit the reply button and start pounding keys declaring me a troll, Hindu, cow, butthurt or any new adjective that you could think of, the above rational applies to both of us.

I or anyone else is ready to update our understanding on any matter, given you provide compelling evidence to do so. All I could see are long lists of "Claims" from your side but without any supporting proof. How will you react if I say entire world is just an simulation inside a silicon based lifeforms head? Will you just take it on my word? Or will you ask for proof?

Moreover as someone already said this is a forum. People are supposed to post technical stuff, basic definitions, basic working concepts, advanced concepts building on the basic topics. That is how you grow your understanding on a subject. If you want to talk cheap then I fear this might not be right channel.

Not saying you lack any of the above basic concepts but it would be better if you post technical counter arguments with associated proofs.Not only it will help with the discussion but also help others to have a broad understanding and view points.

@WebMaster I have seen some posts where you wished to improve the quality of posts. We would like to have an opinion on what kind of posts would you prefer to see occurring more on the forums.

RLG is no more as cutting edge tech as it used to be in the 80s ,so its not as difficult to master

Well that rationale has proven to be false on multiple occasions. eg, Rockets. They came into existence way before 80s but still have major fireworks sometimes. None of us are 100% sure about everything going right/as per plan.

Also if we go by your logic, RLG is a trivial stuff very common place in today's world, then why dose any info on that still classified in Pakistan? Like for eg automatic weapons are extremely common in this decade, and you can see that almost everything about any system is readily available to masses. So if RLG is so outdated tech, atleast the pics of the system or the labs that produced it should be de-classified?

 

[Safriz]

What you say is true. @amardeep mishra or myself may not be "Professional" per say. We can analyze things on technical level bcoz looking through religious or nationalistic prism, we cannot quantify stuff. Like how can you discuss something without a common measure? Hence we post relevant research or own work rather than propagating lunacy.

Now you can claim that any technical data posted which dose not support your narrative as:
Then the problem lies with you. You can make an effort to learn from it. The post itself may not explain you everything but gives you the starting point.

Before you hit the reply button and start pounding keys declaring me a troll, Hindu, cow, butthurt or any new adjective that you could think of, the above rational applies to both of us.

I or anyone else is ready to update our understanding on any matter, given you provide compelling evidence to do so. All I could see are long lists of "Claims" from your side but without any supporting proof. How will you react if I say entire world is just an simulation inside a silicon based lifeforms head? Will you just take it on my word? Or will you ask for proof?

Moreover as someone already said this is a forum. People are supposed to post technical stuff, basic definitions, basic working concepts, advanced concepts building on the basic topics. That is how you grow your understanding on a subject. If you want to talk cheap then I fear this might not be right channel.

Not saying you lack any of the above basic concepts but it would be better if you post technical counter arguments with associated proofs.Not only it will help with the discussion but also help others to have a broad understanding and view points.

@WebMaster I have seen some posts where you wished to improve the quality of posts. We would like to have an opinion on what kind of posts would you prefer to see occurring more on the forums.

Well that rationale has proven to be false on multiple occasions. eg, Rockets. They came into existence way before 80s but still have major fireworks sometimes. None of us are 100% sure about everything going right/as per plan.

Also if we go by your logic, RLG is a trivial stuff very common place in today's world, then why dose any info on that still classified in Pakistan? Like for eg automatic weapons are extremely common in this decade, and you can see that almost everything about any system is readily available to masses. So if RLG is so outdated tech, atleast the pics of the system or the labs that produced it should be de-classified?

Like i said, i don't come here to solve differential equations. If i wanted to do that i wiould admit myself to some classroom and earn myself a degree or a diploma. Its simply not worth it to even try to understand such overly complicated comments. If someone wants to write such comments,good luck with that. Its just that nobody will be reading or replying.

About proof. You Indians have different criteria for proof when it comes to proving Pakistani tech , while yourself believing in silly things on Indian matters, such as Brahmos is nuclear armed and Agni-6 exists, K-15 is a cruise missile and Tejas is 100% made in India.
Good luck with that too as those who dont want to believe, cannot be made to by presenting any amount of arguments or evidence.

 

[kṣamā]

Agni-6 exists, K-15 is a cruise missile and Tejas is 100% made in India.

Wrong on all counts. Not a single Indian with decent understanding would agree on that. A6 is still being developed, K-15 was never designed to be cruise missile neither it is and Tejas is made in India. Obviously it contains many off the shelf components. (Long back I had given an example of Mutton Biryani made by your mother. Rice is produced by someone else, Mutton is harvested by someone else, Masalas by someone else etc. But still the Biryani on the dinner table is only due to your Mom's effort, skill and aptitude. It by any definition of word is "Your Mom's Special Mutton Biryani" . U and I can't even come up with anything comparable.)

 

[kṣamā]

, i don't come here to solve differential equations

Well you don't. Someone else with the required aptitude and zeal would do that on his/her time and maybe learn something. Few guys, I know have spent months coming up with libraries of code in assembly and C for networked communication (ie, socket programming). Why? Bcoz few members on the forum faced long list of issues and these folks could not find any copy paste ideas.

Its simply not worth it to even try to understand such overly complicated comments. If someone wants to write such comments,good luck with that. Its just that nobody will be reading or replying.

Well people who want to "Discuss" will, people who want to "Reply" won't. I would rather say these kind of post separate wheat from the husk...

 

[amardeep mishra]

You won't find exact details of any Missile related research in Public domain in case of Pakistan.
About Ring Laser Gyroscope you can search IEEE and will find plenty of research papers by Pakistanis.
RLG is no more as cutting edge tech as it used to be in the 80s ,so its not as difficult to maste

You still did not answer my question and that is,Can you point out atleast a single picture of pakistani designed RLG or FOG that found itz usage in shaheen? I knew it before asking for papers is way too much for ordinary pakistanis,but atleast a single picture of pakistani designed RLG wont be too much right?
Also how difficult would it be to point out specific lab and their contribution in this RLG.
PS: I agree,RLG isnt a cutting edge thing,however manufacturing a high precision RLG/FOG with as low drift figures as possible and as light and compact as possible is indeed an "engineering challenge". Now kindly do the justice and post pictures of "pakistani designed RLG/FOGs" like the way I did for Indian designed ones!

 

[gslv mk3]

Agni-6 exists

Who said it didn't?