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F22 will piss all over all other jets
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Look what your scientist say about your own plane. read the article and compare with Su 35 Capabilities. It is not even 1/4th.
Chinese Media Takes Aim at J-15 Fighter | Defense News | defensenews.com
Really...Pleeeeease...What suggests that the F-15 is any more flexible to upgrades than is the MiG-29, which has spurred many upgrades with new and advanced subsystems?
For more than a decade, until just before the November 1989 fall of the Berlin Wall, a secret Air Force aggressor unit flew Soviet MiGs in more than 15,000 sorties against US Air Force, Navy, and Marine Corps pilots.
What do you think ?THE UNITED STATES purchased 21 MiG 29 fighter aircraft from Moldova during October,...
In late October, U.S. crews partially dismantled the fighters and transported them aboard C 17 cargo jets to Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio, where the fighters will be reassembled, analyzed and used for training purposes. The MiG 29Cs are the first ever obtained by the United States and U.S. officials expect these models will provide additional insights into the capabilities of the MiG 29 class, which remains an important element in the active air forces of many former Eastern bloc nations and their client states.
Forget load weapons. Just simple refuel while engines running. We knew from even before the Soviet Union collapse that the MIG-29 cannot be refueled in less than 30 min under combat stress conditions, while either the F-15 or F-16 can be done in less than 15 min. The MIG's external drop tanks must be refueled separately while the American fighters does it automatically thru the wings' internal feeds and I have explained on this forum how the system worked before...."hot pitting," means the fighters can land, refuel, load weapons and quickly take off again should they have to provide the air superiority that Eagle drivers do best.
Of course we can. No one said the 'only', but the understanding here is that combat records are the best over other factors.That's because you have entirely misinterpreted my "criticism"; my argument was not directed at the technical merits of the F-15 or its capabilities vis-a-vis the MiG-29 but rather the notion that combat records can be the sole yardstick by which a plane's fighting ability is gauged. One cannot measure one dependent factor regarding an aircraft or any other object while other factors are altered.
When did news reporters become scientists? The argument is actually directed against the ship, not the aircraft, whose upgrades are very similar to that of the SU-35. If you are so keen at taking opinion as fact, perhaps it might interest you to know that the designers of the J16 has compared it to the Russian plane.
Look what your scientist say about your own plane. read the article and compare with Su 35 Capabilities. It is not even 1/4th.
Chinese Media Takes Aim at J-15 Fighter | Defense News | defensenews.com
actually you are way ahead of fanboy... the way chinese claims about superiority if pretty laughable. ..LOL. You make claim just like fanboy.
J-16 is not J-15.
J-16 will be equipped with Next Gen AESA, and WS-10G with thrust than S-117.
So far I know SU-35 Irbis is not AESA.
You are unable to read and understand the content of article. Useless to argue with you.
actually you are way ahead of fanboy... the way chinese claims about superiority if pretty laughable. ..
Congrats for becoming self imposed moderator.Thread closed.
I would say the since F-15 has never been shot down in air to air combat it is probably the best jet fighter in the world.
This thread is still on!! Time to deliver the final verdict.
Thread closed.
F 22 and PAKFA. FAGFA will outclass both.
Grippen NG and LCA MK2 will be good fightres of their own class.
This is soooooooooooooooooooo wrong...On the other hand the F15s mostly had to encounter crap air forces (bad pilots, bad command, bad infrastructure etc etc) flying non upgraded Soviet fighters
LCA MK II does not exist, so does the J 16, putting planes into this list which have not flown is simply stupid.
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J-16 is in production now.
Never mind, I mistook your comment for one of the other postersThat point being...?
U.S. Buys Moldovan Aircraft to Prevent Acquisition by Iran
What do you think ?
The US have ALWAYS have access, at one time or another during the entire Cold War, to Soviet/Russian fighters.
Luftwaffe MiG-29 experience - positives and negatives"The East German JG3 took delivery of its first MiG-29 in 1988, and by 4 October 1990 had 24 on strength, equipping two squadrons. A follow-on batch were on order, but were never delivered. With the re-unification JG3 became Evaluation Wing 29 on 1 April 1991. On 25 July 1991 the decision was taken to keep the aircraft and integrate them into the NATO air defence structure. JG73 was activated in June 1993, and the MiG-29s assumed a National (Day Only) QRA(l) commitment over the former East Germany. The MiG-29s moved to Laage in December 1993 and on 1 February 1994 the unit gained a NATO QRA(l) commitment. The two aircraft on QRA were assigned to NATO, while the rest were assigned to national tasking. All will be NATO assigned when the F-4s move to Laage to complete the wing."
Sorry my fault, I thought it was still a prototype, but nevertheless, its way too soon to include this plane in such a list