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What is Indian culture in the modern world?

If Hindus really despised Muslims, there wouldn't be nearly 200 million of Muslims in India

That argument would only work if Indians were capable of removing the Muslims, when you're not. And Muslims are still underrepresented in the Indian government, as well as subject to numerous atrocities (Gujarat riots, Hyderabad massacre, the oppression in Kashmir, being lynched for killing cows, etc).

Speaking of Akhand Bharat, Indians in general do not want Pakistan or Bangladesh. We really hate to increase our population, given you're not wealthy states, have a lot more problems, making it ours is not helping.

Tell that to Akhand Bharatis.

Hunas are not Pakistanis, they were central Asians

They were eastern Iranics just like the Pashtuns, and their empire was based around what is now Afghanistan and Pakistan. Numerous clans/tribes in Pakistan are descended from them, such as the Durranis.

they invaded and were decisively defeated by the Guptas

Hold your horses, they did not get "decisively" defeated. The Guptas finally managed to beat them after a couple hundred years of them ravaging the region, and the Hunas were one of the principle reasons they went into decline.

the Kingdoms in the subcontinent had big hearts

:rofl:

Sati and Varnas don't sound like things that would be implemented by big-hearted folk.

Maybe there are Huns who integrated are now Rajput clans. Neither of this has anything to do with Pakistan

Are you daft? Pakistan has plenty of Rajputs. They converted to Islam and joined the ruling aristocracy of the Muslim empires (especially during the era of the Mughals).

Speaking of Kannada or Tamils taking pride in Harappa or Mohenjodaro, both those people take pride in two things, one, their language and it's ancient history and two, being Indian.

I can guarantee you there are people there who take pride in Harappa and Mohenjo Daro, when it has nothing to do with them.

Harappa and Mohenjodaros are really excavation sites that's found both in India and Pakistan.

No they weren't. They're both in Pakistan.
 
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Indian Culture is , rape on streets , public lynching, killing for eating or even carrying beef, drinking cow urine to get rid of all ailments, assaulting foreigners ( students from African countries), killing innocent Kashmirs, treating women worse than cows, suppression of minorities, destroying their mosques and temples.

Deception and lies to achieve any gains they could and than consider it success.

This is Indian culture. I cam go and on but dont really have time to waste.

You forgot one very important one. Raping cows is also a national obsession in India.
 
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I am sorry but thats not true,

Muslims Raped, Killed ‘for Eating Beef’

Muslims on India train assaulted 'because they ate beef'

Accused of carrying beef, teen killed on train

Man accused of carrying beef beaten to death by 100-strong mob in Jharkhand


These are just few news from Indian media houses. Just google and you ll see where India stands when it comes to beef eating. Its better you stop lying. You start your argument with a lie who is gona read the rest of comment. If Senior PDF members like yourself start to propagate a lie, what can we expect from an army of paid trolls from your country?

Typical Indians deny, deny, deny and if that doesn't work deny some more.

Claiming the Muslim dynasties of India (such as the Kingdom of Mysore, the Mughals or the Delhi Sultanate) when most of you are Hindu and were literally despised by them.

Beyond that, you also feel heavily attached to the history of Pakistan based purely on this Akhand Bharat nonsense. I can understand some of you taking pride in some aspects Pakistan's pre-Islamic history since it involves a few of you too (e.g some Rajput clans come from the Huna people, so I can see why some of them view the Hunas in a positive light), but why the heck are people from Bangalore and Chennai taking pride in Mohenjo Daro or Harappa?



I thought you guys think Pakistanis are converts? Are we converts or your oppressors? Honestly, you guys don't even think about what you say a lot of the time.



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Can't have been that bad if we spared so many of you.

Those of us more knowledgeable about history know just how barbaric India was prior to Islam's arrival to the region. You're not fooling anyone.

And I'd like to see proof of infant children being targeted and women being raped, in large numbers.



You are literally not able to type English properly.



If you hate Muslims so much why are you on a Pakistani forum?




I think the Indians beating their chest on here are missing the point, I asked what is Indian culture in the modern world, not what happened 5000 years ago, but yet they come into this thread to derail the thread.
 
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I think the Indians beating their chest on here are missing the point, I asked what is Indian culture in the modern world, not what happened 5000 years ago, but yet they come into this thread to derail the thread.
Honestly speaking, can any nation answer this question?
Can say Australian or Japanese or Canadians answer this question?
I dare say this looks like a loaded or a trap question to me.
 
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Honestly speaking, can any nation answer this question?
Can say Australian or Japanese or Canadians answer this question?
I dare say this looks like a loaded or a trap question to me.

Again I did say that Australia, Europe, USA has problems, Australia has problems with domestic violence, but at least we recognize that the Australian government is spending money, on counselling, shelters, training for psychologist etc and India? Well, Indian politicians, cops, etc support rape, then Indian men run around raping dogs, cows, goats hmmm how disgusting are Indian men?

In fact, Australia has a lot of problems at least we admit that Instead of talking shit and beating our chest and crying when a doco is made on a gang rape that gets banned in India, LOL.
 
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Again I did say that Australia, Europe, USA has problems, Australia has problems with domestic violence, but at least we recognize that the Australian government is spending money, on counselling, shelters, training for psychologist etc and India? Well, Indian politicians, cops, etc support rape, then Indian men run around raping dogs, cows, goats hmmm how disgusting are Indian men?

In fact, Australia has a lot of problems at least we admit that Instead of talking shit and beating our chest and crying when a doco is made on a gang rape that gets banned in India, LOL.
May I say that you have asked your question wrong.

Your question was "What is Indian culture in the modern world?"
The question you are now asking is "What are the Indian problems or short-comings in the modern world/times?".

These are two very different questions.

From the looks of it, you are re-defining 'culture' with only the presently visible problems of ANY nature.
 
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You're just upset that I showed the inherent logical inconsistency of your argument.

Your consistent logic has bought you here and worst has yet to come. So follow your consistent logic. Very good for us.
Your job to find out, not mine to explain.

Your sharp logical brain unable to understand my question.
A few decades is nothing compared to thousands of years of varna, sati and other atrocities.
Not few decade but 15 centuries.
Oh please, we only waged wars of expansion across the region because throughout history, you've refused to be amicable with us.
What history do you have? 7 decades full of confusion, defeat and failure.

62 is a much smaller number than those who died in all the incidents I listed.
But not even a fraction of what has happened in your country.

Typical Indians deny, deny, deny and if that doesn't work deny some more.



I think the Indians beating their chest on here are missing the point, I asked what is Indian culture in the modern world, not what happened 5000 years ago, but yet they come into this thread to derail the thread.

I think you are the only repository of wisdom. Nobody agrees your views except typically brainwashed members of radical ideology. Rather questioning other's history, look at your own. I think that you are not an original Australian but someone belong to radical country hiding behind Australian flag.
 
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That argument would only work if Indians were capable of removing the Muslims, when you're not. And Muslims are still underrepresented in the Indian government, as well as subject to numerous atrocities (Gujarat riots, Hyderabad massacre, the oppression in Kashmir, being lynched for killing cows, etc).
Indians are well capable of ethnic cleansing of minorities, but not many wants to get rid of minorities in India. You are quoting some communal tensions as an evidence of cleansing. These are not one side violence. People from both communities were killed but was largely controlled. Now, there are hardly any mass riots in India unlike in 1900's.

Tell that to Akhand Bharatis.
Find me one lol. There's some 0.001% maybe. But hardcore Hindus would hate to add Pakistan and Bangladesh to India, given they are happy you left.

They were eastern Iranics just like the Pashtuns, and their empire was based around what is now Afghanistan and Pakistan. Numerous clans/tribes in Pakistan are descended from them, such as the Durranis.
Nice try, but Hunas were Central Asians, as they are identified by the historians. The Iranians would laugh at you if you ever associate them with Central Asian Hunas. They may have chiefs of Iranic origin, but have physical features of Central Asians.

:rofl:

Sati and Varnas don't sound like things that would be implemented by big-hearted folk.
Typical ignorance when you are oblivious to timelines. :lol: Varnas were not birth right when it was implemented, it was a system that differentiate between different positions. Some great sages of India were actually tribesmen i.e the lowest varnas.

Sati wasn't a widespread practice. Only a few sects practiced.

Again, don't come with tangent replies, most Indian Kings tolerated minority religions. We didn't do what Spain did to the Muslims:). Hence we have a large diversity.
Hold your horses, they did not get "decisively" defeated. The Guptas finally managed to beat them after a couple hundred years of them ravaging the region, and the Hunas were one of the principle reasons they went into decline.
Hunas never successfully invaded India. They were stopped by Guptas. Guptas went into decline because of loss of trade to the West as a result of invasion of Hunas and revolt among local chiefs. Huna never crossed over to Indian heartland. They largely attacked the weak links, like todays Pakistan, Western Indian states till the outskirts of Central India for a short time before they were defeated.

Are you daft? Pakistan has plenty of Rajputs. They converted to Islam and joined the ruling aristocracy of the Muslim empires (especially during the era of the Mughals).
Pakistan has plenty of Muslims who converted, it doesn't matter from where they converted, they are Muslims. Rajputs never associate themselves with Muslims. I guess it's the habit of some Pakistanis to have some Hindu caste names to claim superiority which is pathetic.

I can guarantee you there are people there who take pride in Harappa and Mohenjo Daro, when it has nothing to do with them.
Pakistanis and their claims:lol:.

No they weren't. They're both in Pakistan.
Place names are, but the excavation sites are in both India and Pakistan and the largest IVC site is in India Rakhigarhi site.
 
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Indians are well capable of ethnic cleansing of minorities

Muslims make up 15% of the population, and you know very well the kind of storm we can create over these incidents. It's not feasible unless you want to spark a civil war.

But hardcore Hindus would hate to add Pakistan and Bangladesh to India, given they are happy you left.

The ones I've seen would all love to so long as they can kill/convert us (the inhabitants).


I'm not trying anything, you're just not aware of history. They are categorised as an eastern Iranic people (just like the Pashtuns). Their major cities were Kunduz, Balkh, Kapisa (in Afghanistan), Peshawar, Sagala and Taxila (in Pakistan).

The Iranians would laugh at you if you ever associate them with Central Asian Hunas.

The fact that you conflate the term Iranic with Iranian shows just how ignorant you are.

but have physical features of Central Asians.

No they didn't, you can look at their coins. Their facial features were primarily Caucosoid. If they were Turco-Mongols like you suggest, they would appear as such and speak a Turco-Mongol language rather than an eastern Iranic one. They were even Zoroastrians for goodness sake.

Varnas were not birth right when it was implemented, it was a system that differentiate between different positions. Some great sages of India were actually tribesmen i.e the lowest varnas.

Never the less, the lower castes were often oppressed.

Sati wasn't a widespread practice. Only a few sects practiced.

Regardless, it was still practiced.

We didn't do what Spain did to the Muslims

Would have if you could have.

Hunas never successfully invaded India.

Nonsense, have you ever even read the inscription of Gwailor? They attacked deep into India frequently, even if their holdings were limited to your western provinces.

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as a result of invasion of Hunas

Good, so we agree.

Pakistan has plenty of Muslims who converted, it doesn't matter from where they converted, they are Muslims.

Agreed.

Rajputs never associate themselves with Muslims. I guess it's the habit of some Pakistanis to have some Hindu caste names to claim superiority which is pathetic.

Good grief, how ignorant are you? There are Rajputs who converted to Islam you know, it's nothing to do with this "superiority" nonsense, it's just a fact. I'll get you one right now:

@Pan-Islamic-Pakistan

I guess you're not a Rajput anymore since you're Muslim as per this clueless Bharti

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Pakistanis and their claims

Bhartis and their lower IQs

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but the excavation sites are in both India and Pakistan

No, Mohenjo Daro and Harappa are both in Pakistan. I didn't say IVC, I said Harappa and Mohenjo Daro specifically because I know Indians love to claim those two in particular, even though you have your own Rakhigir or whatever the heck it's called.

Not few decade but 15 centuries.

No, a few decades. Conquests don't count as atrocities, everyone did them and we were almost always much more lenient than others. Just look at how chivalrous Saladdin was to the surrendered.

What history do you have?

Over 1000 years of domination across Europe, the Middle East, North Africa, Central and Southern Asia.

7 decades full of confusion, defeat and failure.

No, you got whipped like a slave in 1947, 1965 and in 1999. Even now, we're shooting you like bottles on a wall. Know your place Bharti.

But not even a fraction of what has happened in your country.

Correct.
 
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No, you got whipped like a slave in 1947, 1965 and in 1999. Even now, we're shooting you like bottles on a wall. Know your place Bharti.

Wow Just looking at your comments, I can guess you guys are so stupid. I think your were taught history to make you guys Islamic gazis. More you get kick on your back, more you boast and brag. Now be careful, Modi won't vaccate Lahore like Shastri did. He will do what Indira did.
 
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I think your were taught history to make you guys Islamic gazis.

I wasn't educated in Pakistan, but if this is what they teach, alhamdulillah, the education system must be better than I thought.

Now be careful, Modi won't vaccate Lahore like Shastri did.

Hahaha, your dirty hands have never been able to even touch Lahore. You tried during partition, you tried again in 1965, you tried yet again in 1971, and you can try 1000 more times. You'll never have it.
 
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We keep hearing that India is an old, great civilization, but I don't want to know about stories from the deep dark past, I want to know what does Indian culture mean in the modern world?

Having been to India with my girlfriend and seen first hand how my girlfriend was treated and her having been groped, sexually assaulted, had men surrounding us and taking photos even when we said no or taking sneaky photos of her, do Indians think that is fair? To treat women in such a way is disgusting. Europe, America, Australia all countries have a rape problem but I have never experienced that happening to my girlfriend in these countries.

The caste system is alive and well in India, where human beings are treated worse than animals, where men, women and kids are made to clean sewers with their bare hands, for less than $1 a day. Where kids are begging in the streets for something to eat, 600 million people live on less than $1 a day.

We hear about India's health care but to be honest only the rich get proper health care if they have private cover, I wouldn't be caught dead in an Indian public hospital filthy, and disgusting are the first thoughts that come to mind. And the doctors aren't even interested in helping the poor.

I am sure Indians will come on here and post about India's shiny new buildings and the metros etc, yes there are shiny new building, and metros and roads but that is just in small pockets around the country.

We hear India is a democracy, but yet minorities are killed for eating beef and that too without any proof, where cinemas are burnt down and they go on riots over a fictional story. Were women and kids are afraid to go out at night, where in a hospital ward a 4-year-old is gang-raped by the people who are mean to care for her.

Indians say Australia is a racist country, call Australians convicts, Indians love to dredge up the past, but yet they come to Australia in their thousands, why would Indians go to a racist country? Indians do not know the history of Australia, Australia was built by migrants Italians, Vietnamese, Greeks, Chinese etc we have people from every country calling Australia home.

It is about time we ban Indians from coming into the country and it's good the government is making it harder for Indians to come in now. Even Indians who have lived here for 60 years say that we should make it tougher for Indians to migrate to Australia.

So what is India's culture in the modern world?
What are your thoughts about @Karna_007?
 
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Hahaha, your dirty hands have never been able to even touch Lahore. You tried during partition, you tried again in 1965, you tried yet again in 1971, and you can try 1000 more times. You'll never have it.

We just broke you vertically and you are bragging here.
 
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