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1. Arabs don't consider you as real Muslims
2. Indian subcontinent isn't the birthplace for Islam


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Hmm so UNDP is now under the influence of Godi Media :yahoo:

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How many Arabs have you met ??

I have Lebanese and Egyptian brides (recent ones) in my family, and many others as very close friends (Tunisians, Algerians, Omanis). All highly educated professional folks.

FYI - I go back every year, sometimes more often.
 
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IMF paper

All those paper composers are Modi's bois.

Here's Arvind Virmani who's now part of NITI Aayog :

Here's Surjit Bhalla :

The citizens of the USSR felt that the West was better. One of the main reasons behind its demise.

LOL, Yuri Gagarin toured the world after becoming the first human to space but the American government did not allow him to walk and ride on the American streets - it took him directly from the airport to UNO headquarters by helicopter - because surely it feared that this great achievement of the USSR will make ordinary Americans and other Westerners think that Communism might indeed be a means to release talents and human intellect the farthest and this can come through a struggle in their present Capitalist environments which keep them in a life of "paying the bills", and this unholy thought about any potential people's struggle the American government certainly didn't want spread. Below is Yuri probably in London going by the double decker buses :
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Eastern Germans were escaping to the West because the capitalist society was better overall.

Really ? Here is a Western establishment interpretation of a real phenomenon :

India before liberalisation was hell for everyone. Now, a significant chunk have been taken out of poverty.

It was after the "Liberalization" phase that between 1995 and 2018 about 400,000 Indian farmers suicided not because of lightening strikes or being devoured by 40-foot anacondas but because of the irrational, unscientific and anti-human Indian socio-economic system which operates on interest-based economics and encouragement of suicide and mindless cultural elements like dowry for marriage, 400-guest weddings, all-year-round religious pilgrimages, spending on daily at-home multiple religious rituals, non-free basic necessities like housing, basic food, water, electricity, telecom, healthcare, education, transport etc. Whatever this thing called Liberalization means it did not eradicate the extreme Capitalism of India that has existed for most of the 3000 years of Hindutvad. Liberalization didn't change anything existing before its papers got signed.

In the same post of mine you have quoted I write of 1875 farmers having as been officially recorded as suicided in just the first 10 months of 2022 ( long after "Liberalization" began ) in just one state of India - Maharashtra. So what are you saying ?

It is in human nature to be competitive, to try to be better than everybody else.

The two lines are different.

1. Very few try to be different than others. How are the hundreds of millions of Indian workers in the IT sector and subsidiaries like the personal vehicle sector and the apartment complex sector etc different from each other after having gone through highly competitive schooling for at least 15 years and then high competition with each other for employment ? The Indian code monkeys all look alike too :
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2. There is no need for any human to engage in artificial competition with another human. If education is removed of money and exams, if society is removed of money and the employment system then becomes real work for the development of society, if the world is rid of political parties and national borders which have served only to divide societies into warring blocs then where is the scope for competition ?

I will list a few positives in the erstwhile USSR- better status of women, and better workforce participation of women, large open public spaces, crèches.

Indeed.

The availability and distribution of something as basic as food, was better in the West.

Umm, so you didn't read about me posting about the socio-economically poor Americans now having to sell blood to buy bread. Again I ask, do you know such a thing happening in USSR, DPRK, Libyan Jamahiriya, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, People's Democratic Republic of Yemen etc ?

What about this scene from San Francisco in deep Capitalist West ?
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Winter 2002 Grimes Poznikov, called the Automatic Human Jukebox when he performed at Fisherman’s Wharf in the 1970s and ’80s, was living on the streets when this photo was taken. Three years later, he was found dead on a city sidewalk from alcohol poisoning. Photo: Brant Ward, The Chronicle

So someone who was famous at a time in USA and had earned then momentarily was later discarded by the same Capitalist system which had once glorified him and he then was forced to live on the streets because Capitalist USA establishment can spend 700 billion dollars as the military budget just for 2020-21 so that it can invade progressive countries thousands of kilometers away for no reason at all yet the controlling American government cannot build free homes for these American homeless people in nice, newly built neighborhoods and provide every American citizen with free basic food like DPRK ( North Korea ) provides and the American government cannot provide these homeless people with employment to make them participate in the legitimate workforce ( not banking nor military nor military production nor most of Hollywood nor the personal vehicle industry etc ). But the American government will keep the homeless destitute daily including imposing psychological wrongs on them and leave them with no money to obtain food ( because food can be obtained only with money in USA ), with no money to get ailments treated, no money to get educated, no respect in society with their torn and disheveled state, no nothing. Some of them take to alcohol because it is more easily obtainable than food. And alcohol kills them immediately or through violence. If alcohol doesn't kill them then these homeless are one day found dead in their tent or in the bus stop or under a bridge or just on the roadside. Does the American president care ?

Reminds me of the pre-Communist-governance Tibet which was ruled by the haraami Dalai Lama who ran a feudal empire, had a personal torture chamber in his palace, had musical instruments made from human skin and bone after the owner had been freshly killed or in most cases the body parts taken when the owner is alve, had serfs and palace slaves in thousands, had other rich men willing to oppress and kill to please him. In Dalai Lama's Tibet the poor were just left to die under the open sun just like the homeless of America. The below scene of a Tibetan peasant under Dalai boi's brutal rule is the same as a typical office worker in USA / West :
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All those paper composers are Modi's bois.

Here's Arvind Virmani who's now part of NITI Aayog :

Here's Surjit Bhalla :



LOL, Yuri Gagarin toured the world after becoming the first human to space but the American government did not allow him to walk and ride on the American streets - it took him directly from the airport to UNO headquarters by helicopter - because surely it feared that this great achievement of the USSR will make ordinary Americans and other Westerners think that Communism might indeed be a means to release talents and human intellect the farthest and this can come through a struggle in their present Capitalist environments which keep them in a life of "paying the bills", and this unholy thought about any potential people's struggle the American government certainly didn't want spread. Below is Yuri probably in London going by the double decker buses :
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Really ? Here is a Western establishment interpretation of a real phenomenon :



It was after the "Liberalization" phase that between 1995 and 2018 about 400,000 Indian farmers suicided not because of lightening strikes or being devoured by 40-foot anacondas but because of the irrational, unscientific and anti-human Indian socio-economic system which operates on interest-based economics and encouragement of suicide and mindless cultural elements like dowry for marriage, 400-guest weddings, all-year-round religious pilgrimages, spending on daily at-home multiple religious rituals, non-free basic necessities like housing, basic food, water, electricity, telecom, healthcare, education, transport etc. Whatever this thing called Liberalization means it did not eradicate the extreme Capitalism of India that has existed for most of the 3000 years of Hindutvad. Liberalization didn't change anything existing before its papers got signed.

In the same post of mine you have quoted I write of 1875 farmers having as been officially recorded as suicided in just the first 10 months of 2022 ( long after "Liberalization" began ) in just one state of India - Maharashtra. So what are you saying ?



The two lines are different.

1. Very few try to be different than others. How are the hundreds of millions of Indian workers in the IT sector and subsidiaries like the personal vehicle sector and the apartment complex sector etc different from each other after having gone through highly competitive schooling for at least 15 years and then high competition with each other for employment ? The Indian code monkeys all look alike too :
infosys_india_afp.jpg


2. There is no need for any human to engage in artificial competition with another human. If education is removed of money and exams, if society is removed of money and the employment system then becomes real work for the development of society, if the world is rid of political parties and national borders which have served only to divide societies into warring blocs then where is the scope for competition ?



Indeed.



Umm, so you didn't read about me posting about the socio-economically poor Americans now having to sell blood to buy bread. Again I ask, do you know such a thing happening in USSR, DPRK, Libyan Jamahiriya, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, People's Democratic Republic of Yemen etc ?

What about this scene from San Francisco in deep Capitalist West ?
01-1.jpg

Winter 2002 Grimes Poznikov, called the Automatic Human Jukebox when he performed at Fisherman’s Wharf in the 1970s and ’80s, was living on the streets when this photo was taken. Three years later, he was found dead on a city sidewalk from alcohol poisoning. Photo: Brant Ward, The Chronicle

So someone who was famous at a time in USA and had earned then momentarily was later discarded by the same Capitalist system which had once glorified him and he then was forced to live on the streets because Capitalist USA establishment can spend 700 billion dollars as the military budget just for 2020-21 so that it can invade progressive countries thousands of kilometers away for no reason at all yet the controlling American government cannot build free homes for these American homeless people in nice, newly built neighborhoods and provide every American citizen with free basic food like DPRK ( North Korea ) provides and the American government cannot provide these homeless people with employment to make them participate in the legitimate workforce ( not banking nor military nor military production nor most of Hollywood nor the personal vehicle industry etc ). But the American government will keep the homeless destitute daily including imposing psychological wrongs on them and leave them with no money to obtain food ( because food can be obtained only with money in USA ), with no money to get ailments treated, no money to get educated, no respect in society with their torn and disheveled state, no nothing. Some of them take to alcohol because it is more easily obtainable than food. And alcohol kills them immediately or through violence. If alcohol doesn't kill them then these homeless are one day found dead in their tent or in the bus stop or under a bridge or just on the roadside. Does the American president care ?

Reminds me of the pre-Communist-governance Tibet which was ruled by the haraami Dalai Lama who ran a feudal empire, had a personal torture chamber in his palace, had musical instruments made from human skin and bone after the owner had been freshly killed or in most cases the body parts taken when the owner is alve, had serfs and palace slaves in thousands, had other rich men willing to oppress and kill to please him. In Dalai Lama's Tibet the poor were just left to die under the open sun just like the homeless of America. The below scene of a Tibetan peasant under Dalai boi's brutal rule is the same as a typical office worker in USA / West :
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chup, bhikari chup !
 
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Taking this seriously for a second.

India would come into direct geopolitical competition with both China and the USA, as well as future growing powers that are in the same position as India is today.

The US has the benefit of having friendly neighbors, a strong economy, and powerful alliances across multiple continents.

China has the benefit of having a large population and a strong economy with regional powerful allies.

Even if India grows to be an economic and military super power, it's unlikely to gain regional hegemony as half of the South Asian region do not trust India.

How would Pakistan deal with India? The same as its been doing so far, build up a strong deterence, enough to make India think twice about starting a conflict. As for Pakistan's economy, it just needs to be big enough to deal with whatever India has. Goldman Sach's has said that Pakistan's economy will be $12 trillion by 2075, let's assumes its half that at $7 trillion. I'd say that's good enough to have a strong economy, strong military, and rich enough to deal with any sort of Indian economic and military aggression. With China almost certain to back Pakistan, India wouldn't be able to do much that it isn't already doing.

There's also a good chance that once India comes into direct competition with the US, that the US would remove its support to India. There's a good Chance that the US backs Pakistan to try and keep India in check.

Pakistan would straddle two global powers, it's strategic location would result in fierce competition to gain influence within Pakistan. Even India may try and buy influence within Pakistan with its new found wealth and influence.

I mean Bangladesh GDP per capita nominal is higher than that of India. The gap will only grow bigger as time goes by.

What kind of a 4th world bhikharee superpower does India want to be ?

No food on plate - but food for thought.

Soon........


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I mean Bangladesh GDP per capita nominal is higher than that of India. The gap will only grow bigger as time goes by.

What kind of a bhikharee superpower does India want to be ?

Food for thought.
Very true, which is why I believe that BD will become the first nation in South Asia to reach developed status.

The problem BD faces is its geography and climate change, which unfortunately has the issue of being prone to the whims of regional powers, namely India and China. This also limits its future economic and geopolitical prospects.

If BD were to find a permanent fix to these issues, BD could easily dominate the region in the future for at least a couple of decades.
 
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Very true, which is why I believe that BD will become the first nation in South Asia to reach developed status.

The problem BD faces is its geography and climate change, which unfortunately has the issue of being prone to the whims of regional powers, namely India and China. This also limits its future economic and geopolitical prospects.

If BD were to find a permanent fix to these issues, BD could easily dominate the region in the future for at least a couple of decades.

The immediate problem at hand is Indian seths and banyas (Adani, Ambani, Damani, Poonawalla, Singhania, Jindal, Hinduja, Mittal, Birla et al) are greedily licking their chops trying to dominate Bangladesh business-wise (making it a captive market) not only for now but to ensure that this remains so for longer term (another fifty years) by using cultural and educational influence.

They have already done this for fifty years through installing India friendly political leadership and ministers like Hasina and Awami League. We have a Hindu Commerce Minister who is Bangladeshi only in name. This Moron spends more than half his time in India hatching plans on how to ease entry of Indian imports to Bangladesh scot-free (with little or zero tariff). Part of his plan is to ensure all trade happens with India in Rupees and eventually - Rupee will become our sovereign currency under Hasina and AL.

Right now this Bangladesh commerce minister is hatching another plan (CEPA) to double Indian imports to Bangladesh, to $32 Billion per year. We can't export more than around a Billion to their market at the same time and they block our exports to their market at every opportunity. That is how big the deficit with India is. This is why they supplied arms in 1971 - not only to break Pakistan, but to milk Bangladesh using trade forever.

At this rate - Bangladesh will always stay non-industrialized and dependent on overpriced Indian goods when the reverse should be true.

So Bangladesh needs to think about ways in getting out of Indian trade influence and become self-sufficient in supplying its own industrial needs like Pakistan has.

India-dependency is a purely Hasina/Awami League phenomenon.

Prior to Hasina, we had very little influence in trade by India.
 
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I think at this point, their growing industrial base, large landmass, and tech sector, they will eventually become a second tier superpower like the soviets (who had a lot of poverty compared to the west) what would Pakistans defence strategy be then? They will be treated with even greater respect world wide, have all the Gulf nations (who give us loans) in their sphere of influence and likely be given a Veto vote in the UN and hold strong sway over the IMF (who also gives us loans)
In this senario how would our generals respond? and would we become yet another proxy for a cold war between China & india like we were for the USSR and US?
We will still be colonial sepoys for pentagon so Indians will take it easy on us. So no worries
 
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