What if Hitler Never Declared War on America?

[Desert Fox]

He stained good name of Germany with mass murder.

According to you, who one post ago was defending American cleansing of Native Americans lol

He stained good name of Germany with mass murder.

So did Churchill with England during the Bengal famine (among other atrocities committed by the british), so did America's founders and successive presidents throughout its history during the genocide of native Americans, dropping nukes on civilians, napalm, etc.

He lost millions of German lives in the process.

So he was bombing his own people? Those allied bombing raids on German cities were conducted by the luftwaffe?

What's next, Hitler is responsible for the death of 500,000 Iraqi children who died of malnutrition in the 1990's after Bush placed Iraq under sanctions?

Is Hitler also responsible for the nukes dropped on Hiroshima & Nagasaki? I'm guessing he was personally piloting those American bombers.

Was he also dropping Napalm on Vietnamese civilians?

Nice victim blaming

Nothing you say good about Hitler changes any of these.

Nothing you say good about Churchill changes the fact that he was a drunk alcoholic puppet of financiers who rekt his own empire and did a fine job I might add.

I did not say he was not wrong. He failed at it.

So he was not wrong in aspiring to expand his country's borders like America's founders did? I don't see what your position is. Are you for expansionism or against it? Or are you only for it in America's case but against it when others do it? In that case you are a hypocrite? And thus talking out from the two ends of your mouth?

But I would assume you would speak to the Germans

Yes, I'm sure you speak for the Germans, the one who's country dropped bombs on German civilians.

Yes, you are their official mouthpiece and decide what is good for them and what isn't after bombing them, then dismembering their country, and then force-feeding them guilt propaganda for the last almost eight decades.

Hitler was a great leader for them

Yes, they elected him in 1933, and for the next 13 years the people did not attempt to overthrow him even once, like they did with the Kaiser during the November Revolution of 1918. Only the aristocrats tried to kill Hitler, but the people remained loyal to him even as American and British bombs fell on them.

Only the generations who grew up under American occupation and force fed American Holocaustianity propaganda hate Hitler. The same America that bombed their cities day and night.

@Nilgiri @Psychic @LeGenD @Metanoia @OsmanAli98

 

[nahtanbob]

According to you, who one post ago was defending American cleansing of Native Americans lol

I would never defend the treatment of American Indians. Show me where I defended such treatment

So he was bombing his own people? Those allied bombing raids on German cities were conducted by the luftwaffe?

So he was not wrong in aspiring to expand his country's borders like America's founders did? I don't see what your position is. Are you for expansionism or against it? Or are you only for it in America's case but against it when others do it? In that case you are a hypocrite? And thus talking out from the two ends of your mouth?

It is one thing for wanting to expand your borders. I have a better strategy - try not to lose your existing lands. Germany lost World War I. Why do you think World War 2 would end otherwise ? USA and Russia got stronger from WW 1 to WW 2. There is a difference between being bold and being stupid. There is no prizes for what Hitler was.

Show me how many Germans regard Hitler in a positive light. Don't call Germans brainwashed or slaves. They run the 3rd or 4th most powerful economy on this planet.

 

[Desert Fox]

I would never defend the treatment of American Indians. Show me where I defended such treatment

Oh, thank God you oppose the genocide of Native Americans. I'm sure this means you support dissolving the American state as it was built on this genocide? You do, right?

 

[Nilgiri]

According to you, who one post ago was defending American cleansing of Native Americans lol


So did Churchill with England during the Bengal famine (among other atrocities committed by the british), so did America's founders and successive presidents throughout its history during the genocide of native Americans, dropping nukes on civilians, napalm, etc.

So he was bombing his own people? Those allied bombing raids on German cities were conducted by the luftwaffe?

What's next, Hitler is responsible for the death of 500,000 Iraqi children who died of malnutrition in the 1990's after Bush placed Iraq under sanctions?

Is Hitler also responsible for the nukes dropped on Hiroshima & Nagasaki? I'm guessing he was personally piloting those American bombers.

Was he also dropping Napalm on Vietnamese civilians?

Nice victim blaming

Nothing you say good about Churchill changes the fact that he was a drunk alcoholic puppet of financiers who rekt his own empire and did a fine job I might add.


So he was not wrong in aspiring to expand his country's borders like America's founders did? I don't see what your position is. Are you for expansionism or against it? Or are you only for it in America's case but against it when others do it? In that case you are a hypocrite? And thus talking out from the two ends of your mouth?


Yes, I'm sure you speak for the Germans, the one who's country dropped bombs on German civilians.

Yes, you are their official mouthpiece and decide what is good for them and what isn't after bombing them, then dismembering their country, and then force-feeding them guilt propaganda for the last almost eight decades.


Yes, they elected him in 1933, and for the next 13 years the people did not attempt to overthrow him even once, like they did with the Kaiser during the November Revolution of 1918. Only the aristocrats tried to kill Hitler, but the people remained loyal to him even as American and British bombs fell on them.

Only the generations who grew up under American occupation and force fed American Holocaustianity propaganda hate Hitler. The same America that bombed their cities day and night.

@Nilgiri @Psychic @LeGenD @Metanoia @OsmanAli98

I need me one of these vinyls:

Best Anthem ever!

 

[Desert Fox]

It is one thing for wanting to expand your borders. I have a better strategy - try not to lose your existing lands. Germany lost World War I. Why do you think World War 2 would end otherwise ? USA and Russia got stronger from WW 1 to WW 2. There is a difference between being bold and being stupid. There is no prizes for what Hitler was.

So your blaming Hitler for factors not under his control?

Do you blame victims of drunk driver related accidents for being hit by drunk drivers? Lol

Show me how many Germans regard Hitler in a positive light. Don't call Germans brainwashed or slaves. They run the 3rd or 4th most powerful economy on this planet.

They elected him when he was alive, and they remained faithful to him during his reign, and only hate him now after being force-fed holocaustianity propaganda from the allies.

 

[nahtanbob]

Oh, thank God you oppose the genocide of Native Americans. I'm sure this means you support dissolving the American state as it was built on this genocide? You do, right?

What genocide ?? There are 5 million Native Americans today in USA. Quit rambling dude.

Tell me any conqueror who did not seize land & kill natives

 

[Nilgiri]

What genocide ?? There are 5 million Native Americans today in USA. Quit rambling dude.

Tell me any conqueror who did not seize land & kill natives

What genocide? There are 30 million? jews in the world. Quit rambling dude.

 

[nahtanbob]

So your blaming Hitler for factors not under his control?
They elected him when he was alive, and they remained faithful to him during his reign, and only hate him now after being force-fed holocaustianity propaganda from the allies.

Germany lost World War 1. Hitler started World War 2 against the same opponents except your opponents got stronger.
That is stupidity. A lot of Germans fought for their homeland not for Hitler

What genocide? There are 30 million? jews in the world. Quit rambling dude.

Hitler did not rule the world. Where are the Jews in Germany, Poland, Ukraine and Russia ?

Genocide is systematic murder of people by ethnicity. Killing of American Indians in USA was never systematic in the same way Nazis organized death camps. The treatment of them is quite shameful.

Turkish killing of Armenians is not genocide. They killed a lot of Armenian civilians. They were fighting a war.

 

[Desert Fox]

What genocide ?? There are 5 million Native Americans today in USA. Quit rambling dude.

Tell me any conqueror who did not seize land & kill natives

Oh, so you don't oppose genocide, but are only rambling like a hypocrite

You can drop nukes on civilian populations, but Saddam Hussein is evil for having imaginary WMD's

You can expand your borders at the expense of others (Mexican American war, Manifest Destiny), but Hitler is evil for wanting to do the same.

Give me a break. Take your faux morality and put it on a pedestal.

What genocide ??

The one as defined by the United Nations charter, which was also created by US government (talk about irony).

 

[Nilgiri]

Hitler did not rule the world. Where is the Jews in Germany, Poland, Ukraine and Russia ?

You do realise where the bulk of Israel's population came from?

Look up soviet jew emigration to Israel (and central + Eastern Europe too) for example. There is reason why Russian and Yiddish are defacto national languages in Israel.

What genocide ??

Have you even talked to an actual native american Chief for his opinion? Just asking.

 

[Desert Fox]

Germany lost World War 1. Hitler started World War 2 against the same opponents except your opponents got stronger.
That is stupidity. A lot of Germans fought for their homeland not for Hitler

Hitler did not start WW2 against the same opponents.

Dude, brush up on your history.

Hitler invaded Poland to take back German lands dismembered from Germany as per treaty of Versailles.

There was no Polish state in WWI.

Britain and France declared war on Germany.

How is it Hitler's fault that Democratic countries like to stick their noses up everyone's @ss and start wars in the name of humanitarianism while they themselves colonized and subjugated millions all over the world for financial greed?

And finally, Hitler had a more legitimate claim on German lands in Poland than America did on Mexican territory it snatched through a war of aggression during the Mexican American war.

So, do you support dissolving America as a political and geographic entity and returning all the lands your people stole through genocide and wars of aggression?

I need me one of these vinyls:

Best Anthem ever!

Wow that sounds pretty clear and crisp for technology from the early 20th century. Never actually heard one of these play before (except in movies, but thought they were just amplified/clarified using computer technology).

Best Anthem ever!

Definitely, in terms of lyrics and melody. Soviet anthem and DDR anthem come second and third place respectively IMHO.

The version you posted I never heard before and honestly sounds better than the one most commonly found on YouTube.

But here are some of my favorites:

Here is what it would have sounded like when the SA chanted it as they marched down the streets of Berlin:

And of course foreign versions, starting with the BUF version:

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Greek Golden Dawn version:

Swedish version:

 

[nahtanbob]

Hitler did not start WW2 against the same opponents.

Dude, brush up on your history.

Hitler invaded Poland to take back German lands dismembered from Germany as per treaty of Versailles.

There was no Polish state in WWI.

Britain and France declared war on Germany.

How is it Hitler's fault that Democratic countries like to stick their noses up everyone's @ss and start wars in the name of humanitarianism while they themselves colonized and subjugated millions all over the world for financial greed?

Hitler attacked country Poland which had alliance with UK and France. He invaded USSR and declared war on USA.
You have to be high on something really strong or downright stupid.

 

[Desert Fox]

Hitler attacked country Poland which had alliance with UK and France. He invaded USSR and declared war on USA.
You have to be high on something really strong or downright stupid.

You just repeated what I said: UK and France went out of their own way and declared war on Germany. Their "alliance" with Poland was a disingenuous one because after the war Poland was under soviet occupation and not free.

As for USA, they were already attacking German submarines and supplying Germany's enemies which is blatant violation of neutrality.

Soviets were aggressively posturing themselves against Germany and making demands on Hitler only an enemy would (like demanding the Dardanelles straight, Bulgaria and Romania, both German allies). In this position, faced with a looming threat from America, Hitler had no other choice but to attack Soviet Union.

 

[future_bound]

Adolf Hitler was a great leader, I admire the way he lifted the German economy.
We in Pakistan need a strong patriotic leader like Hitler

 

[Nilgiri]

Wow that sounds pretty clear and crisp for technology from the early 20th century. Never actually heard one of these play before (except in movies, but thought they were just amplified/clarified using computer technology).

Bah...in movies they amp up the sound like you say. It loses all the warmth that vinyl holds. I always check if there is LP recording somewhere for music I dont have in the format already....it all together a nicer sound for me...because in the small crackles, unsmoothness and bursts you can often hear and sense the age/experience of the generation that produced it!

Definitely, in terms of lyrics and melody. Soviet anthem and DDR anthem come second and third place respectively IMHO.

Love those yep. Love Dixie too.