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What has America done for Pakistan?

There would be no Pakistan to complain about had not the Yanks stonewalled Indira's eagerness to advance into West Pakistan.

Cry my dear Yanks, Cry.

To Pakistanis bitching about US - saving Pakistan from complete destruction in 1971 was the single biggest help US has ever done to you.Be grateful for that. Not to mention the pressure put on India by Clinton during the Kargil war not to cross the LoC or by Bush during Oct 2002 post-Parliament attack.
 
Thanks USA!!!

Salala deadlock

Wednesday, January 25, 2012

Why did Nato forces kill two dozen Pakistani soldiers in an air raid on a border post in the Mohmandregion late last November?

Islamabad and Washington continue to trade claims and counter-claims over the incident and in its latest statement Pakistan has called the attack unprovoked and declared it unacceptable that responsibility for the attack be affixed on Pakistan. This comes in response to the report coming out of an investigation conducted by Brigadier-General Stephen Clark, released on Dec 22.

Pakistan had refused to be a part of that investigation, not least because it found it problematic for the accused party to be leading an investigation into its own actions. Clark’s report alleges that Pakistani troops first opened fire, provoking a US response. A series of mistakes by both Isaf and Pakistani troops as well as mutual distrust between the parties led to the deadly firefight, goes the US version.

On the Pakistani side(ISPR Report), the army has categorically called Clark’s report “factually not correct” and said the fundamental cause of the attack was the failure of Nato and Isaf to share their near-border operation with Pakistan at any level and their violation of “all mutually agreed procedures” for such operations. “Sustained aggression which continued for as long as 90 minutes despite the US and Isaf being informed about the incident at multiple levels within minutes of initiation of US-Isaf fire belies the ‘self defence’ and ‘proportional use of force’ contention (in Clark’s report),” the army concludes.

Importantly, the US has yet to share with the Pakistani side the full and classified version of Clark’s report, something the army has reiterated in its latest statement. As expected, the Pentagon has said it stands by the US military report and that the “statement that this was an unprovoked attack by American forces is simply false.”

So where do we go from here? There is no doubt that Washington and Islamabad need to work together so that the troubled relationship can be sensibly refashioned.

However, as things stand at the moment, the onus is on the US to decide which way it wants the relationship to go.

There is much documented evidence to suggest that the US can make, and indeed has made, deadly mistakes in the past and, for all its technical mastery and tremendous military capability, does not have perfect intelligence on the ground. A US Air Force investigation into the killing of 23 civilians in Uruzgan province in Feb 2010 concluded that it was a tragic mistake. In the same month Nato admitted killing 12 civilians in Helmand; it was followed by another admission of killing five civilians in Zhari district of Kandahar. Just a week before the deadly attack in Mohmand agency, Nato killed seven civilians, most of them children, in the same district. The fog of war often leads to fatal errors. But the biggest error the US is making now is adding insult to injury by refusing to acknowledge the full extent of its mistake and hence turning what many thought would be a temporary impasse into a permanent deadlock.

Salala deadlock
 
they drone us they kill our soldiers they attack us blame us what more can they do for us:sick::sick:

nothing so far america has done nothing to help pakistan other than doing all of the above and making us realize that america is indeed the biggest son of !!!!!! since pharon
 
Its not America's job to protect your soldiers and citizens its pakistan army's job But here pakistan army is itself in bed with america in killing its own citizens and soldiers.you dont pay to america from your taxpayer's money but you pay to pakistan army from your tax payer's money so your question should be directd to pakistan army not america.

Instead of asking what america has done for pakistan you must ask what pakistan army has done for you?

Everything else is just your frustration and noise.

IS there a dislike button on here! Simply BS from you!

Pakistan Army has lost soldiers and officers and if you donot know for who then you can go back to ur hole.
 
Its not America's job to protect your soldiers and citizens its pakistan army's job But here pakistan army is itself in bed with america in killing its own citizens and soldiers.you dont pay to america from your taxpayer's money but you pay to pakistan army from your tax payer's money so your question should be directd to pakistan army not america.

Instead of asking what america has done for pakistan you must ask what pakistan army has done for you?

Everything else is just your frustration and noise.

we are losing soldiers for their messed up war its their mess their drones kill more civilians then terrorist they violate our sovereignty and you are saying we should thank them we have done more then enough our army has protected us i didnt see them in swat but our soldiers its bcz of them that finally tehreek i taliban are loosing grounds and strenght and whre as america has lost his own war what you wrote seemed more like hate
 
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America has given $21 billion in civilian & military aid in 10 years in Pakistan
Have to disagree on that , Have u seen the latest US ADs on tv , print media etc OF US AID just mentioning one NGo , about 80% of budget goes to advertising rest to admin cost , so what do they give us ??????
 
you have to know better. US never interfered in Pakistan. They were always invited to the table by the various versions of the General-Dictators of the pakistan army.

You will rarely find an occasion where US has violated the modesty. It has always been wilful generals with their dreams of 'from turkey to pakistan' who happily obliged and in fact took pride in the US regular role in their affairs. You could ask musshhraff if you wanted to. During the book tour anyone can ask a question for 500 USD!

Wilful generals who were only in power because of the immense US support.
If Zia wasn't receiving hundreds of millions in aid from the US, he'd never be in power. The country would be in shambles and he'd be removed like Ayub and Musharraf were.
 

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