What do Indians celebrate on 15th August?

[Chakar The Great]

Can any one explain to me what do Indians celebrate on 15th Aug every year??

On 15th Aug 1947 British India was divided in to India and Pakistan ( East and West). So Muslim minority of the country got independent from Hindus who were in majority not only in political circles but also in all walks of life, especially trade & commerce and education.

"The population of undivided India in 1947 was approx 390 million. After partition, there were 330 million people in India, 30 million in West Pakistan, and 30 million people in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh)."


Indian National congress and Hindu leaders tried hard to prevent partition and keep the country united however Britishers ended up giving up on Jinnah's principle stand of two nation theory. Britishers were going through a massive economical problems post world war II and wanted to leave the sub continent any ways.


So what is it that India celebrates?? They lost 40 % of area to a relative minority Muslims. They should actually mourn. Is there something I am missing, please enlighten me.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Can any one explain to me what do Indians celebrate on 15th Aug every year??

On 15th Aug 1947 British India was divided in to India and Pakistan ( East and West). So Muslim minority of the country got independent from Hindus who were in majority not only in political circles but also in all walks of life, especially trade & commerce and education.

"The population of undivided India in 1947 was approx 390 million. After partition, there were 330 million people in India, 30 million in West Pakistan, and 30 million people in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh)."


Indian National congress and Hindu leaders tried hard to prevent partition and keep the country united however Britishers ended up giving up on Jinnah's principle stand of two nation theory. Britishers were going through a massive economical problems post world war II and wanted to leave the sub continent any ways.


So what is it that India celebrates?? They lost 40 % of area to a relative minority Muslims. They should actually mourn. Is there something I am missing, please enlighten me.

You could make the same argument for Pakistan. Jinnah was very upset when Mountbatten showed the final boundaries and called it "a moth eaten Pakistan" Jinnah actually had wanted Hyderabad, Junagadh, the entirety of Kashmir, Jammu, and Ladakh, the entirety of Assam and Tripura, as well as Muslim-majority districts in UP and Bihar. Obviously, he got none of that, and only a small part of Kashmir.
Also, I am pretty sure Muslims made up approximately 40 percent of undivided India, so it is only fair they got 40 percent of the landmass. Everyone had to give up something, its called compromise.

At the end of the day, our country is far bigger than yours and has more fertile land plus control of the Indus and her tributaries, as well as a border with ASEAN. Control of Lakshadweep and AaN Islands also allow us to control the Arabian Sea and the Straits of Malaca, two of the most strategic waterways in the world. So all in all, we got a pretty good deal/

 

[FalconStar]

They celebrate because after British left they were free to kill Muslims which they are doing till this day and now they keep proving every single day how right are founding fathers were about Two Nation Theory.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

They celebrate because after British left they were free to kill Muslims which they are doing till this day and now they keep proving every single day how right are founding fathers were about Two Nation Theory.

Well we must have done a terrible job because we have the 2nd highest Muslim population after Indonesia. Meanwhile, how many Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, and Parsis do you have combined?

 

[FalconStar]

You could make the same argument for Pakistan. Jinnah was very upset when Mountbatten showed the final boundaries and called it "a moth eaten Pakistan" Jinnah actually had wanted Hyderabad, Junagadh, the entirety of Kashmir, Jammu, and Ladakh, the entirety of Assam and Tripura, as well as Muslim-majority districts in UP and Bihar. Obviously, he got none of that, and only a small part of Kashmir.
Also, I am pretty sure Muslims made up approximately 40 percent of undivided India, so it is only fair they got 40 percent of the landmass. Everyone had to give up something, its called compromise.

At the end of the day, our country is far bigger than yours and has more fertile land plus control of the Indus and her tributaries, as well as a border with ASEAN. Control of Lakshadweep and AaN Islands also allow us to control the Arabian Sea and the Straits of Malaca, two of the most strategic waterways in the world. So all in all, we got a pretty good deal/

Yet 300 Million people in your country are malnourished and have no toilet facilities the most basic of things. Half of your population is deprived of basic health facilities and yeah you got a better deal what did you do with it.

 

[Chakar The Great]

You could make the same argument for Pakistan. Jinnah was very upset when Mountbatten showed the final boundaries and called it "a moth eaten Pakistan" Jinnah actually had wanted Hyderabad, Junagadh, the entirety of Kashmir, Jammu, and Ladakh, the entirety of Assam and Tripura, as well as Muslim-majority districts in UP and Bihar. Obviously, he got none of that, and only a small part of Kashmir.
Also, I am pretty sure Muslims made up approximately 40 percent of undivided India, so it is only fair they got 40 percent of the landmass. Everyone had to give up something, its called compromise.

At the end of the day, our country is far bigger than yours and has more fertile land plus control of the Indus and her tributaries, as well as a border with ASEAN. Control of Lakshadweep and AaN Islands also allow us to control the Arabian Sea and the Straits of Malaca, two of the most strategic waterways in the world. So all in all, we got a pretty good deal/

Now you have made your point which I personally think is illogical and has several mistakes, UP and Bihar was never part of original Pakistan , go and read Pakistan resolution passed in 1940 at Minto Park Lahore, which would later serve as the basis of Pakistan. With such shallow knowledge of facts , you complain that I dont listen to you or give importance to your arguments. You further go on to say our country is bigger and has borders with ASEAN ( which your leadership by some divine power knew in 1947 that it would be become so important in future ) all that bragging is unnecessary.


Now dont spoil this thread with your trolls please. I ll leave it for other members to see your point.

Well we must have done a terrible job because we have the 2nd highest Muslim population after Indonesia. Meanwhile, how many Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, and Parsis do you have combined?

I would request the mods to block you as you keep posting shitty logic's and derail the thread. Now STFU.

 

[Dark-Destroyer]

Yet 300 Million people in your country are malnourished and have no toilet facilities the most basic of things. Half of your population is deprived of basic health facilities and yeah you got a better deal what did you do with it.

Don’t talk about those things their not important talk about the supaaa powaaa

 

[FalconStar]

Well we must have done a terrible job because we have the 2nd highest Muslim population after Indonesia. Meanwhile, how many Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, and Parsis do you have combined?

The Hindu percentage of population of west Pakistan (East Pakistan not included) at the time of partition was 1.6% and now it has moved to above 2% so they are still here. This country was created for Muslims of British India so they are in majority in Pakistan but the few minorities we have are not lynched over petty issues.

 

[Chakar The Great]

The Hindu percentage of population of west Pakistan (East Pakistan not included) at the time of partition was 1.6% and now it has moved to above 2% so they are still here. This country was created for Muslims of British India so they are in majority in Pakistan but the few minorities we have are not lynched over petty issues.

Dont argue with him he is a troll. He didnt say what they celebrate, he brings minority into it. He brings more shame to Indians with his illogical arguments .

 

[Indus Pakistan]

keep the country united

It was not a country. It was a colony. A British colony. If you are hauled into a prison cell along with ten other people it does not mean you are part of a united family. You are just a prisoner. In the same way prior to 1947 we were all enslaved under the British Raj. In 1947 we got our freedom from colonial slavery. That included the Dominio of Pakistan and Dominion of India.

So 14th and 15th is celebrated as freedom from colonial slavery. I would think this is pretty self evident.

 

[cloud4000]

So what is it that India celebrates?? They lost 40 % of area to a relative minority Muslims. They should actually mourn. Is there something I am missing, please enlighten me.

The only people in India who are mourning about Partition -- to this day -- are members and supporters of RSS; and they are a small minority. Most people India could care less and consider Partition to be ancient history. Hindsight being a luxury, Partition, in the end, was probably the best thing to happen after the British left.

Muslims got their own country where their faith is the core of their ideology. And Hindus got their homeland where, after years colonial and Islamic subjugation, they had a country of their own. The only mistake that India and Congress-made was to engage in pseudo-secularism where each Indian is an equal citizen, but in reality, they are not.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

In fact many Indian folks lament and resent the partition of the British India!!! They have serious reservations regarding Nehru and Gandhi's judgements!!!! They think like how the Congress leaders got duped by Jinnah, and couldn't show some mettle!!! The British were there to leave ASAP, Jinnah was terminally ill, the Muslims would be always divided, and a bloody civil war could be tolerated!!!! IMO India didn't gain from the partition, rather lost the vigor it required to build their country to be a super star in Asia!!!! Hence, Gandhi himself was killed, and BJP is so popular among the educated Indian folks....

 

[Chakar The Great]

It was not a country. It was a colony. A British colony. If you are hauled into a prison cell along with ten other people it does not mean you are part of a united family. You are just a prisoner. In the same way prior to 1947 we were all enslaved under the British Raj. In 1947 we got our freedom from colonial slavery. That included the Dominio of Pakistan and Dominion of India.

So 14th and 15th is celebrated as freedom from colonial slavery. I would think this is pretty self evident.

I know where you are coming from , that does make sense. But that was end of British Raj any way. I mean Hindus would have ideally wanted one country, ruled by them. They failed in what they wanted, they got the worse possible deal out of partition.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

The only people in India who are mourning about Partition -- to this day -- are members and supporters of RSS; and they are a small minority. Most people India could care less and consider Partition to be ancient history. Hindsight being a luxury, Partition, in the end, was probably the best thing to happen after the British left.

Muslims got their own country where their faith is the core of their ideology. And Hindus got their homeland where, after years colonial and Islamic subjugation, they had a country of their own. The only mistake that India and Congress-made was to engage in pseudo-secularism where each Indian is an equal citizen, but in reality, they are not.

And, BJP comes to power with a good majority!!!!!

 

[Chakar The Great]

In fact many Indian folks lament and resent the partition of the British India!!! They have serious reservations regarding Nehru and Gandhi's judgements!!!! They think like how the Congress leaders got duped by Jinnah, and showed some mettle!!! The British were there to leave ASAP, and a bloody civil war could be tolerated!!!! IMO India didn't gain from the partition, rather lost the vigor it required to build their country to be a super star in Asia!!!! Hence, Gandhi himself was killed, and BJP is so popular among the educated Indian folks....

Exactly my point sir.