We're Ready to Unite With Russia, Belarus Leader Lukashenko Says

[UKBengali]

The Taiwan question is a mixed development and ideological one.

Looking at development, first tier mainland cities are already par or slightly better than Taiwan in terms of raw economic output per capita. In 10 years probably rich provinces like Zhejiang and Jiangsu will be par or better than Taiwan on the same metric.

Dude....

Taiwan is one of the richest countries on the planet with GDP per capita at PPP of 50,000 US dollars.

Forget reaching Taiwan's level for many decades if ever.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Chinese leaders should learn a thing or three from Russia on dealing with Taiwan. When you're deemed strong and masculine they want to be part of your team. You flash a lot of money but is a geek people will just want to use you.
@TaiShang @Feng Leng

Taiwan isn't doing bad economically where it would want to join China due to economic considerations. Of course China is still a behemoth economically but it wouldn't be as big a factor to them. The main thing that should be offered is sort of like a special status like Hong Kong and Macau have. Taiwan's ppl have gotten used to their life living in a democracy with their own laws and once someone gets used to a certain way of life it is hard for them to just uproot it and adjust to a different setting.

The main factor should be to try and convince them to merge and offer them that special status where they will retain many of their laws and the part about democratically elected government would be negotiated until both sides find an acceptable solution. The main incentive here for Taiwan would be security and avoiding a potential war with China, which they cannot hope to win...economically merging with China would be an added bonus.

It would be extremely hard to form a merger plan where both sides can agree to it...but it's worth trying.

 

[nahtanbob]

Belarus is ready to merge with Russia, Belarussian President Alexander Lukashenko said on the third and last day of his bilateral talks with President Vladimir Putin on Friday.

Rumors resurfaced this year that Russia could annex Belarus as Putin’s constitutional term limits bar him from running for the presidency in 2024.


“The two of us could unite tomorrow, no problem,” Lukashenko said in a video shared by a Komsomolskaya Pravda tabloid Kremlin reporter on Twitter Friday.

“But are you – Russians and Belarussians – ready for it?” Lukashenko said as quoted by Interfax. “We’re ready to unite and consolidate our efforts, states and peoples as far as we’re ready.”

Putin, meanwhile, stressed that “fully independent states simply do not exist in the world,” bringing the European Union as an example of interdependence.

The Russian president has voiced support for Russia to unite with Belarus as early as 2011.

why is Belarus a separate country ??

 

[Yankee-stani]

why is Belarus a separate country ??

You can ask Stalin when he made up and updated those Republics in the 1930s lol

The Taiwan question is a mixed development and ideological one.

Looking at development, first tier mainland cities are already par or slightly better than Taiwan in terms of raw economic output per capita. In 10 years probably rich provinces like Zhejiang and Jiangsu will be par or better than Taiwan on the same metric.

However, mainland society is rife with anti-social behavior, as a result of crony capitalism from 1990s to 2012-ish. Although not quite at the level as gangraping Dalits and stringing them up on trees, it is still really bad in many respects especially traffic. The upper class and upper middle class are mostly arrogant and money grubbing scum. Only the more disciplined among civil servants and party members (including central government level) hold everything together.

Taiwan's massive advantage in terms of social harmony is a "force multiplier" that propels its current development level to well beyond that of mainland first tier cities. Taiwanese have picked up some of the better parts of Japanese culture.

On this topic, this article is highly recommended.

In terms of the ideological issue, it's just a historical problem. Pro-US and pro-Japan views are the majority because there is little personal risk to being anti-China. The moment they are physically threatened, they will switch sides quickly. The solution here is simply to spill some blood.

In conclusion, mainland needs at least 10+ years to improve its society to the point where you don't have arrogant and money grubbing scum dominating the private sector positions of power. Once that finally happens then spill a bit of blood in Taiwan and everything falls into place.

Xi Jinping made it a priority starting from a few years ago. HK is undergoing a deep level retooling to integrate it into the surrounding parts of the mainland called the Greater Bay Area. See below.

https://m.scmp.com/comment/insight-...eater-bay-area-chance-hong-kong-show-it-hasnt

I think China needs to focus on improving its image to Taiwan and no not spending money on shitty "PR" campaigns or more "imperial dramas" but isnt the KMT technically the pro-China party or its just neutral these days

 

[vostok]

You can ask Stalin when he made up and updated those Republics in the 1930s lol

Actually, Stalin was opposed to that. They had 2 Union projects in 1922 - Confederation of equal republics (Lenin's project) and autonomous republics within Russian Federation (like all federal regions in todays Russia - Stalin's project). Lenin's project won.

 

[Jlaw]

imperial dramas"

Not sure if these dramas are CPC sponsored. CPC don't like these dramas because it's historically inaccurate.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Not sure if these dramas are CPC sponsored. CPC don't like these dramas because it's historically inaccurate.

I heard in recent times they started to oppose it

 

[nahtanbob]

You can ask Stalin when he made up and updated those Republics in the 1930s lol

most of the republics had a valid reason. Belarus was the only one - is there a really big difference ?
there were tons of autonomous regions within Russia

 

[OIO]

I really think China should have direct rule over HK and Macau I mean 2014 really showed you guys needed to control the HK

maintaining the status is best for HK, let it be.

Belarus is ready to merge with Russia, Belarussian President Alexander Lukashenko said on the third and last day of his bilateral talks with President Vladimir Putin on Friday.

Rumors resurfaced this year that Russia could annex Belarus as Putin’s constitutional term limits bar him from running for the presidency in 2024.


“The two of us could unite tomorrow, no problem,” Lukashenko said in a video shared by a Komsomolskaya Pravda tabloid Kremlin reporter on Twitter Friday.

“But are you – Russians and Belarussians – ready for it?” Lukashenko said as quoted by Interfax. “We’re ready to unite and consolidate our efforts, states and peoples as far as we’re ready.”

Putin, meanwhile, stressed that “fully independent states simply do not exist in the world,” bringing the European Union as an example of interdependence.

The Russian president has voiced support for Russia to unite with Belarus as early as 2011.

Belarus told Chinese not to call them 'white Russia'.

 

[Pangu]

Poland will go ape shit first if this union happens, but anything that stick it to nato is fine by my book.

 

[vostok]

Belarus told Chinese not to call them 'white Russia'.

There are some Nazi-style Belorussians. The same in Ukraine. For some nationalistic reasons they try to ban medieval names of our countries and regions - White Rus and Black Rus in Belarus, Red Rus and Little Rus in Ukraine. In Russia - Great Rus. They do not like former names because they remind them we all are Russia and we all are Russians after all.

 

[OIO]

There are some Nazi-style Belorussians. The same in Ukraine. For some nationalistic reasons they try to ban medieval names of our countries and regions - White Rus and Black Rus in Belarus, Red Rus and Little Rus in Ukraine. In Russia - Great Rus. They do not like former names because they remind them we all are Russia and we all are Russians after all.

i don't know the details, now I know why Chinese government still calling Belarus 'white Russia' officially.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

why is Belarus a separate country ??

Different language. Belarussian, Russian, Ukrainian are the 3 East Slavic languages.

 

[oprih]

Good, Belarus is originally part of Russia, dont mind nato, they are powerless to do anything.

 

[nahtanbob]

You can ask Stalin when he made up and updated those Republics in the 1930s

i don't have a death wish