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We will make a case for 10000km missile with Gov

you can attack Karachi from Mars even now that ISRO have completed the mars missions,, ap ka kya kahnay haan bahi!!! you go the worlds best rafale, no Su-30, no Su-35, no Tejas MkII, no rafale it should be... no wait,, what!! :enjoy:

On a serious note, i do not see any need for India to develop a 10k missile, better invest the money in making the existing ones better. Specially now with China covered, i do not see the 10k missile to be of any practical use. However, there money there choice, i am just expressing what i THINK, not what i WANT. :) :tup:

It's much more complex than that. Nuclear Subs can be sensed with satellite imagery (heavy lare displacement). Theirs a very good case for parking them away from battle zones- hidden near the arctic regions under the ice, Atlantic/ Arctic oceans etc. That way the second strike is truly protected. The moment a situation gets hot they can move away from the battle zone, hide and wait for the orders through the battle. If the strike is called then they'll fire from a distance where they have not been spotted and do the job. That's one reason why US and Russian Nuke subs also had global range. This is how a standard 'Nuclear Ballistic Detterent' operates.
 
It's much more complex than that. Nuclear Subs can be sensed with satellite imagery (heavy lare displacement). Theirs a very good case for parking them away from battle zones- hidden near the arctic regions under the ice, Atlantic/ Arctic oceans etc. That way the second strike is truly protected. The moment a situation gets hot they can move away from the battle zone, hide and wait for the orders through the battle. If the strike is called then they'll fire from a distance where they have not been spotted and do the job. That's one reason why US and Russian Nuke subs also had global range. This is how a standard 'Nuclear Ballistic Detterent' operates.
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wasn't i saying essentially the same think?
My point was that instead of making more 10k range ballistic missiles, India need to improve on existing ones, that will cove SLBM as well.
Anyway, as i said, your money your choice. Personally i just don't see any gain India can have by making a 10k km missile specially when the existing ones cover all potential targets.
 
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wasn't i saying essentially the same think?
My point was that instead of making more 10k range ballistic missiles, India need to improve on existing ones, that will cove SLBM as well.
Anyway, as i said, your money your choice. Personally i just don't see any gain India can have by making a 10k km missile specially when the existing ones cover all potential targets.

I was saying that if we have a 10 K missile, then we will have the ability to move the subs to whichever place on earth it is safer and launch them. Our current missiles may not provide the 'be anywhere strike anywhere' capability.
 
These indians are really cunning. Remember? The Chinese pointed out that the last Agni rocket is 8000km ranged but India says 5000km.

Articles like the above is just smoke and mirrors. We must never beleive them.
No one asked you to believe us. We are the evil Yindoos bent on taking over the world. Be afraid....Very afraid! :devil:
 
suspicious

I know since continental drift is moving continents and countries acorss so may be one day Pakistan will be in that area beyond 10,000km mark but

Very odd what is the purpose of such a stance

So close to USA borders with little booster adjustment it can very well land in USA

Dont hide behind your green pajamas. Its evil plan by us Safron Chaddis :devil:. Our 10k km range missile will take a tour of middle east & strike you guys from behind. :lol: Then we will blame it on Israel or Iran. :enjoy:

As a gesture of soliderity with Pakistan, we will dispatch 10000 packets of parle G biscuits as relief. :astagh:
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you can attack Karachi from Mars even now that ISRO have completed the mars missions,, ap ka kya kahnay haan bahi!!! you go the worlds best rafale, no Su-30, no Su-35, no Tejas MkII, no rafale it should be... no wait,, what!! :enjoy:

On a serious note, i do not see any need for India to develop a 10k missile, better invest the money in making the existing ones better. Specially now with China covered, i do not see the 10k missile to be of any practical use. However, there money there choice, i am just expressing what i THINK, not what i WANT. :) :tup:

I have just exposed our evil plan. :police:
on a serious note, I guess you are right sir.
 
Its more like science project or insurance policy.
 
Republic of India has formally applied for the membership of Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) and the
application may happen at MTCR's plenary due in September-October.

Applying for MTCR membership is an important diplomatic step because this brings India closer to technology control regimes that the country had fought and worked around for decades to build its missile and space programmes.

Republic of India do have the technology for 10,000 Kms and more ICBM's.
 
@Arsalan An SLBM with range of 6000 + km is also being developed.
that makes much more sense!!

I was saying that if we have a 10 K missile, then we will have the ability to move the subs to whichever place on earth it is safer and launch them. Our current missiles may not provide the 'be anywhere strike anywhere' capability.
the 10k Km missile is land based not SLBM. It makes much more sense to invest in SLBM.
 
and the time it will take those missiles, if they are not already dud and falling and exploding around your subs, which looking at your navy's track record is hard to believe will make it that far without colliding with the largest of fuel tankers in the world, to reach Pakistan, our missiles would already have landed and conveyed are "warm" wishes to you guys.

Our submarines can be in the pacific and still attack Karachi.
 
and the time it will take those missiles, if they are not already dud and falling and exploding around your subs, which looking at your navy's track record is hard to believe will make it that far without colliding with the largest of fuel tankers in the world, to reach Pakistan, our missiles would already have landed and conveyed are "warm" wishes to you guys.

Our Navy's Track Record as of 1971 ( last time when it shows its Record..) WITHOUT Nuclear Subs , Brahmos and SLBMs :

Overall, the Indian Navy's missile attack was carefully planned and executed well. The attack achieved complete surprise and was a shock to Pakistan's Armed Forces Command.

On 4 December, the Indian Navy launched a fast naval strike on the Pakistan Naval Headquarters (PNHQ) of Karachi.[14] The task group for the operation consisted of three Vidyut class missile boats, INS Nipat (K86), INS Nirghat (K89) andINS Veer (K82) from the 25th "Killer" Missile Boat Squadron, escorted by two anti-submarine Arnala class corvettes,INS Kiltan (P79) and INS Katchall (P81), and a fleet tanker, INS Poshak.[6][14] The task group was led by the Commanding Officer of the 25th Squadron, Commander Babru Bhan Yadav, embarked on INS Nipat.

As per the operational plan, the task group reached 250 nautical miles (460 km) south of Karachi and stayed in the area during the day, outside the range of Pakistan Air Force (PAF) aircraft. The plan was to attack Karachi at night because most PAF aircraft did not possess night-time bombing capability.[15] In the evening on 4 December, Kiltan and the 3 missile boats approached Karachi, evading Pakistani reconnaissance aircraft and surface patrol vessels.

At 2230 hrs PST, the task group converged about 70 nautical miles (130 km) south of Karachi detected Pakistani targets, analysed as warships 45 miles to the northwest and 42 miles to the northeast.

Nirghat then steered towards and engaged the northwesterly target and after verification, fired the first SS-N-2B Styx missile at the destroyer, PNS Khaibar, which was on patrol.Khaibar mistook the missile to be an aircraft and engaged it with its Bofors anti-aircraft guns. The missile struck Khaibar on the starboard side and exploded below the aft galley in the Electrician's mess deck at about 2245 hrs PST. The ship immediately lost propulsion, plunged into darkness and the No.1 Boiler room exploded, engulfing the ship in thick black smoke. Khaibar sent out an emergency transmission to PNHQ which read "Enemy aircraft attacked in position 020 FF 20. No 1 Boiler hit. Ship stopped." In the panic of the attack, the transmission sent incorrect coordinates of the ship's position, which resulted in delays in rescuing the survivors later. With the target still afloat, at about 2249 hrs, INS Nirghat fired a second missile, which was seen approaching and again engaged with anti-aircraft guns of Khaibar. The missile struck the No.2 Boiler room on the starboard side, sinking Khaibar.[10]

At 2300 hours, Nipat engaged two targets to the northeast approaching Karachi. Verifying the targets, Nipat launched 1 Styx missile each at the MV Venus Challenger and her destroyer escort PNS Shah Jahan (DD-962).[9][10] India has claimed[10][16][17] that the MV Venus Challenger was carrying ammunition for Pakistan from the United States forces inSaigon. The ammunition on the Venus Challenger immediately exploded as the missile struck sinking her about 26 miles south of Karachi.[16] The other missile hit PNS Shah Jahan which was badly damaged and scrapped.[7][8][10]

At 2320 hours, the minesweeper PNS Muhafiz, was targeted by a Styx missile from Veer. The missile hit Muhafiz on the port side abaft the bridge, instantaneously disintegrating the vessel before it could send a transmission to the PNHQ.
 
Alond with ICBM a Slbm of 6000 range is made.
i thought if you are so much interested then you would have known about it?
i do, my point is a simple one, the 10000 Km missiles makes no sense, reasons explained previously, the 6000 km SLBM makes much more sense, reasons explained by yourself. Also, as said previously, there money there choice. I am just expressing what i felt about this!!

+1 for that.
i wish you could have done that :P
Just kidding,
 
that makes much more sense!!


the 10k Km missile is land based not SLBM. It makes much more sense to invest in SLBM.

But you'll have to start with the land based system first so that you can figure out the required tech. In general sub launched versions 'follow'
 

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