'We should stay out of it': Netanyahu distances Israel from US over Soleimani killing

[mangekyo]

'We should stay out of it': Netanyahu distances Israel from US over Soleimani killing
by Mike Brest
| January 06, 2020 02:57 PM
Daily Headlines: January 6


death of top Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani.


Netanyahu, 70, told security cabinet ministers that Israel was not involved in the attack and that they must not be dragged into the growing tensions between the United States and Iran, according to Axios.

“The killing of Soleimani is a U.S. event, not an Israeli event, and we should stay out of it," two ministers who attended the meeting told the publication when describing Netanyahu's remarks.

Netanyahu initially demanded his cabinet not speak to the press, but he has now directed them to say that Israel supports America and its right to defend itself — remarks that echo the statement he gave reporters on Friday.

“Qassem Soleimani is responsible for the death of American citizens and many other innocent people. He was planning more such attacks," he said last week. “President Trump deserves all the credit for acting swiftly, forcefully, decisively. Israel stands with the United States in its just struggle for peace, security, and self-defense."

Soleimani, through his proxies and the Quds Force, had long targeted Israel with rockets and other forms of terrorism.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...stances-israel-from-us-over-soleimani-killing

 

[khansaheeb]

Funny coming from a state which created animosity without cause.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Is this corrupt clown kidding?? USA carried out his mission for him and his nation. USA has only ever been carrying out missions for his nation's benefit, and he has the nerve to say "let's stay out of it now the sh+& hit the fan"??

Even if he is merely bluffing to keep his nation's missions against Iran secret, to come out and make such a humiliating statement about his sponsors is disgraceful.

He could simply stay quiet, no comment, that sort of thing, if asked directly whether Israel would support USA in military action against Iran.

This is humiliating for Trump.

Trump might want to consider demanding public clarification of these odd comments.

 

[mangekyo]

Is this corrupt clown kidding?? USA carried out his mission for him and his nation. USA has only ever been carrying out missions for his nation's benefit, and he has the nerve to say "let's stay out of it now the sh+& hit the fan"??

Even if he is merely bluffing to keep his nation's missions against Iran secret, to come out and make such a humiliating statement about his sponsors is disgraceful.

He could simply stay quiet, no comment, that sort of thing, if asked directly whether Israel would support USA in military action against Iran.

This is humiliating for Trump.

Trump might want to consider demanding public clarification of these odd comments.

There is a reason why even Bush didn't kill Soleimani. And that was back in 2003 when USA was much stronger and Iran much weaker compared to know. Even Netanyahu knows Trump fucked up.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

There is a reason why even Bush didn't kill Soleimani. And that was back in 2003 when USA was much stronger and Iran much weaker compared to know. Even Netanyahu knows Trump fucked up.

Sorry in what sense? That Iran will retaliate and win a war against USA?

Is that what you're implying?

 

[mangekyo]

Sorry in what sense? That Iran will retaliate and win a war against USA?

Is that what you're implying?

No its just a coincidence that US is pulling out now. It has nothing to do with what happened recently

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Sorry in what sense? That Iran will retaliate and win a war against USA?

Is that what you're implying?

Did US win in Afghanistan?

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

They were probably the ones who started it but ok i i don't think anyone trusts israeliz not even their american friends trust em.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

No its just a coincidence that US is pulling out now. It has nothing to do with what happened recently

I now think it's a deliberate ruse. USA is pulling its ground troops out asap to avoid the extremely high risk positions they would be in. They aren't stupid yknow.

The coming war will be to contain Iran within Iranian borders by massive air, drone and naval power.

Iranian proxies will be attacked by USA's hired goons (Sunni militias and God knows...
ISIS, Kurds and whatever else). No way is Trump risking ground troops to rocket saturation barrages when enough proxies are available to be glorious "shaheeds".

Maybe some specops will be done but that's it folks.

USA will achieve its objectives because Iran is walking into a trap. There won't be a ground occupation (except for a couple of bases in sistan-balochestan to facilitate their future engagement with Pakistan), just an aerial/naval containment, a proxy ground war with a million dumb shaheeds on each side, specops and bunker busters to thwart nuclear ambitions, and devastation for already sanctioned Iranian citizens, who will ultimately demand regime change or enforce it through armed rebel groups. This could get very bad for Iran.

Believe me, I'd like for Iran to stop American hegemony, mainly because I know America wishes to come after Pakistan next, but I don't think Iran can win because of this carefully planned American trap. Sunnis and Kurds will be unleashed by USA to do the ground work. The yanks will sit back and push buttons.

Did US win in Afghanistan?

....which is precisely why they will not use the same attritional strategy. They will push buttons from a safe distance this time.

 

[mangekyo]

The coming war will be to contain Iran within Iranian borders by massive air, drone and naval power.

Do you think Iran does not have BMs, cruise missiles, torpedos, subs etc that can strike outside of Iran? Do you think we only have guns and knives and can only fight in close combat?

Iranian proxies will be attacked by USA's hired goons (Sunni militias and God knows...
ISIS, Kurds and whatever else). No way is Trump risking ground troops to rocket saturation barrages when enough proxies are available to be glorious "shaheeds".

What sunni militias are you talking about? The gulf Arabs wont lift a finger, they know its suicide. ISIS is gone, and even if they were to somehow revive, they still need to fight the Iraqis again to cross the border and head in to Iran.

Media have been glorifying Kurds for the last year, so people will think they were the real heroes against ISIS, its just propaganda, Kurds are useless and cant do shit. They wont risk losing what they already have fighting US war. Iraqis are already thirsty Kurdish blood after they betrayed them time and time over.

USA will achieve its objectives because Iran is walking into a trap. There won't be a ground occupation (except for a couple of bases in sistan-balochestan to facilitate their future engagement with Pakistan), just an aerial/naval containment, a proxy ground war with a million dumb shaheeds on each side, specops and bunker busters to thwart nuclear ambitions, and devastation for already sanctioned Iranian citizens, who will ultimately demand regime change or enforce it through armed rebel groups. This could get very bad for Iran.

You don't know Iran at all. a month ago, Iranians were out protesting against the regime. Now after they killed Soleimani, millions are chanting "death to America" Thinking Iranians will turn against their country if US attacks and invades us is a huge miscalculation. There is no way US can put boots on the ground in Iran. That just wont happen.

 

[GumNaam]

netanyahu: we should stay out of it.
trump: you too brutus?

 

[fitpOsitive]

'We should stay out of it': Netanyahu distances Israel from US over Soleimani killing
by Mike Brest
| January 06, 2020 02:57 PM
Daily Headlines: January 6


death of top Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani.


Netanyahu, 70, told security cabinet ministers that Israel was not involved in the attack and that they must not be dragged into the growing tensions between the United States and Iran, according to Axios.

“The killing of Soleimani is a U.S. event, not an Israeli event, and we should stay out of it," two ministers who attended the meeting told the publication when describing Netanyahu's remarks.

Netanyahu initially demanded his cabinet not speak to the press, but he has now directed them to say that Israel supports America and its right to defend itself — remarks that echo the statement he gave reporters on Friday.

“Qassem Soleimani is responsible for the death of American citizens and many other innocent people. He was planning more such attacks," he said last week. “President Trump deserves all the credit for acting swiftly, forcefully, decisively. Israel stands with the United States in its just struggle for peace, security, and self-defense."

Soleimani, through his proxies and the Quds Force, had long targeted Israel with rockets and other forms of terrorism.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...stances-israel-from-us-over-soleimani-killing

No, Mr Yaho you are the main party In this conflict.

 

[homar]

It’s hardly surprising. The Israelis were never prepared to risk a broad conflict with Iran. Their strategy has always been to manipulate the stupid Americans into sacrificing themselves for the Zionist project. They have no desire to fight wars with those that can do them damage in return. Only for massacring civilians in an open-air prison from 30,000ft.

 

[khansaheeb]

I now think it's a deliberate ruse. USA is pulling its ground troops out asap to avoid the extremely high risk positions they would be in. They aren't stupid yknow.

The coming war will be to contain Iran within Iranian borders by massive air, drone and naval power.

Iranian proxies will be attacked by USA's hired goons (Sunni militias and God knows...
ISIS, Kurds and whatever else). No way is Trump risking ground troops to rocket saturation barrages when enough proxies are available to be glorious "shaheeds".

Maybe some specops will be done but that's it folks.

USA will achieve its objectives because Iran is walking into a trap. There won't be a ground occupation (except for a couple of bases in sistan-balochestan to facilitate their future engagement with Pakistan), just an aerial/naval containment, a proxy ground war with a million dumb shaheeds on each side, specops and bunker busters to thwart nuclear ambitions, and devastation for already sanctioned Iranian citizens, who will ultimately demand regime change or enforce it through armed rebel groups. This could get very bad for Iran.

Believe me, I'd like for Iran to stop American hegemony, mainly because I know America wishes to come after Pakistan next, but I don't think Iran can win because of this carefully planned American trap. Sunnis and Kurds will be unleashed by USA to do the ground work. The yanks will sit back and push buttons.


....which is precisely why they will not use the same attritional strategy. They will push buttons from a safe distance this time.

So you are saying that US killed Soleimani so that they have an excuse to quickly pull out their soldiers from vulnerable positions/locations before the war with Iran really starts? How did they know that they would have sufficient time or that the Iraqis/Iranian proxies would be slow to react?

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Do you think Iran does not have BMs, cruise missiles, torpedos, subs etc that can strike outside of Iran? Do you think we only have guns and knives and can only fight in close combat?



What sunni militias are you talking about? The gulf Arabs wont lift a finger, they know its suicide. ISIS is gone, and even if they were to somehow revive, they still need to fight the Iraqis again to cross the border and head in to Iran.

Media have been glorifying Kurds for the last year, so people will think they were the real heroes against ISIS, its just propaganda, Kurds are useless and cant do shit. They wont risk losing what they already have fighting US war. Iraqis are already thirsty Kurdish blood after they betrayed them time and time over.



You don't know Iran at all. a month ago, Iranians were out protesting against the regime. Now after they killed Soleimani, millions are chanting "death to America" Thinking Iranians will turn against their country if US attacks and invades us is a huge miscalculation. There is no way US can put boots on the ground in Iran. That just wont happen.

Plenty of what you said is plausible. I don't think ISIS is ever "finished". USA always maintains it as a strategic asset.

USA has learned a heck of a lot in recent times.

Why send in American troops when some dumb zealots can do the job for you? ISIS were only barely thwarted in Syria thanks to massive Russian assistance and massive collateral damage, which actually did a lot of harm to Iran's image in ME. Syria was a costly, pyrrhic "victory" for Iran, while USA didn't even commit massive ground forces at all. USA certainly failed its overall objective but it still beat a reasonably ordered retreat.

Look I'm no expert or even a quarter of one. I just think Iran will not be able to inflict significant human casualties on the Americans, which if you understand your history, (I.e. Vietnam) is the ONLY rate-limiting step to American ambitions. Sure, I lack knowledge on Iran.....but I know the American mindset. No peace movement, million man march, international law, UN pleas, Russian verbal threats, Iranian civilian deaths, refugees crisis ain't gonna do squat to convince USA to stop.....ONLY US SERVICE PERSONNEL IN BODY BAGS suddenly gets them singing kumbayah and holding hands for peace.

I actually hope you're right and Iran foils the American schemes. Honestly I do - for selfish reasons mind you.